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Bob98SR5
06-30-2013, 02:27 PM
Hi all,

Looking at this 2000 Rav4 for a friend (see jpg).

So good stuff:

- paint is good except 1 area where there's a dent and the paint flaked off (key point to my question)
- interior is smoke free. seats are still in good shape. sorta dirty headliner but liveable
- engine runs and pulls well...for a 2000 Rav4, that is :)

Bad stuff:
- high speed steering wobble (above 55 mph)
- high speed self-lane changing machine. at 65 mph, if i let go of the wheel, the car is in the next lane. perfectly fine in a neighborhood like GG (haha, if you're from the area you know what I mean---and I'm an Asian driver saying this!), but yeah, it pulls severely to the right
- some scratches on the bumpers but liveable
- the left front fender's panel was replaced. You can tell its a little off color than the rest of the vehicle.

So some things he admitted but didn't volunteer until I started driving it:

- He said that he did go to an alignment shop recently (I saw the report) and the car was out of alignment. Now everything is to spec (in green zone). He said that the alignment tech said that the front pass wheel is bent. I noted that there were NO weights on that wheel.
- Also noted that the front tires are different than the 2 rear ones. My guess is that this seller probably went through tires like crazy, but that's busy an assumption at this point
- When checking why he didn't try the rear spare, he said that that was bent too. Grrr. I did ask him if there was anything else. He didn't bring this one up.

Hence all you people: test drive and axe alot of questions.

So the price is really good but I'd not pay more than $4000 at this point. I'd say the likelihood that there was front end damage that was not repaired is med high. I say that because the front fender was replaced on one side and there appears to be head on front impact damage on the other front panel. coupled with newish front tires, I think that there might be this type of damage. Of note, the Carfax came out clean.

So i'm waffling on this one. The seller says its just a front rim issue. I told him I'd consider the vehicle if that were indeed the problem and that he fixed it. Then I'd recommend that my friend to buy it.

Any insights would be great.

Seanz0rz
06-30-2013, 02:35 PM
eh, I don't know. I wouldn't bother if you think it has crash damage. A new wheel may set you back up to 100 dollars once you are all said and done with it, but is that really going to fix the problem?

if he fixes the wheel and it drives fine, then maybe.

Personally, I'd go find a CR-V from that same period. Ours (yes, 2) are bulletproof, even when heavily abused!

Bob98SR5
06-30-2013, 03:08 PM
more pics

Bob98SR5
06-30-2013, 03:10 PM
picssssssss

Bob98SR5
06-30-2013, 03:12 PM
shes not a big Honda fan. Had problems with them, she said.

Yah, finding the wheel he said was the problem. My guess it might be that he can't find a matching rim.

CJM
06-30-2013, 04:37 PM
i dont think its worth it, bent wheels SCREAMS accident of some kind.

Bob98SR5
06-30-2013, 07:56 PM
i dont think its worth it, bent wheels SCREAMS accident of some kind.


yah, i think i'm gonna let this one go by

4x4mike
06-30-2013, 09:50 PM
If he already took it to a shop he's already looking into fixing it or has fixed it some. If it still raises questions I'd walk. With pulling, vibration AND Marc saying pass I'd leave it. He knows a little something about pulling and vibration.

YotaFun
07-01-2013, 06:32 AM
I would avoid it just for the simple fact that its a 2000....
But with the other issues involved I would go running for the hills from it.

If your really looking for that Body style Rav4 Bob, shoot for a 04 or 05 model (personally 05, last year of that body style and all kinks worked out.)
Came with the 2.4l (pretty much a reworked 2.0 but I can def tell a difference when I drive each)
there is a manual AWD option as well if you can find it.

The only common problem on that body style is the rear shocks blow out quickly (at least stock Toyota) so I would just look out for that.

But as for this one again, I would walk

paddlenbike
07-01-2013, 09:36 AM
I think it's a good idea to pass.

I'm not sure if it's in your friend's price range, but Bugatti has a new Vitesse model out.
http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Bugatti-Veyron-Grand-Sport-Vitesse.jpg

I would get that instead.

:)

Good Times
07-01-2013, 12:10 PM
Bob have you looked into a matrix or corolla? If budget is a concern this might be a good alternative option since Honda's are out.

CJM
07-01-2013, 05:02 PM
If he already took it to a shop he's already looking into fixing it or has fixed it some. If it still raises questions I'd walk. With pulling, vibration AND Marc saying pass I'd leave it. He knows a little something about pulling and vibration.

Thanks Mike your funny lol.

My pulling issue was actually a bad PS box with a bad valve and bad a-arm bushings. The super wide 265s are also pulling into the tractor trailer grooves in the road.

But Bob, seriously if the wheels are all bent and there is vibration the guy had to have sit something pretty good. Its a unibody so if he smashed it pretty decently chances are the unibody is damaged. I myself would seriously walk, specially after he said he had it in for repair and they didnt fix it-betcha hes trying to pawn it off.

Bob98SR5
07-14-2013, 12:31 AM
she ended up buying an 05 Honda Accord, dark metallic grey. Thanks for the feedback, peanut gallery

kafene
08-10-2013, 06:49 PM
I think it's a good idea to pass.

I'm not sure if it's in your friend's price range, but Bugatti has a new Vitesse model out.
http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Bugatti-Veyron-Grand-Sport-Vitesse.jpg

I would get that instead.

:)

Wow, you passed on the Bugatti? It looks pretty sweet. :)