E85 vs Gasoline comparison test

[paddlenbike]

Found this Edmunds.com article really interesting. Is ethanol the solution for saving the planet? Think again.
http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/e85-vs-gasoline-comparison-test.html

[Seanz0rz]

Only since the ethanol subsidies have ended have I been able to find good yellow corn in the stores that isn't horribly expensive (if you could find it at all).

I am confident it has lead to the destruction of several internal parts of yard equipment, eating fuel lines and gaskets.

[04 Rocko Taco]

I know my boat, jet ski, mowers, etc. all run like piss on ethanol gas.
We still have several 100% gasoline stations in town and thats what I always put in the boat.

The Toyota fleet gets it occasionally and the mileage difference is surprising!

[CJM]

I wish we had ethanol free stations here! We have to rely on using premium here or buying 100 low lead at the airport.

[paddlenbike]

My automotive engineer uncle convinced me years ago to buy electric yard tools just for that reason. There is talk of 15% ethanol by volume coming to California. Just to give you an idea how damaging ethanol can be, our 2012 Acura warranty will not cover any fuel system damages if fuel with ethanol volume more than 10% is used.

http://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblog.com/media/2013/01/ethanol-1358385528.jpg

http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/E15_1-1024x553.jpg

[paddlenbike]

Here's more to add to the anti-ethanol compaign, just as they're talking about 15% ethanol again.

http://www.torquenews.com/1574/e15-g...er-honda-civic

"We wrote an article last January warning Honda owners not to burn E15 fuels in any Honda model. Civic is not immune to the possible exhaust system, fuel lines, pump and piston ring damage caused by the corrosive properties of ethanol. What we now know is that some E15 fuel compounds(15% corn alcohol and 85% gasoline blends) can separate in the tank, leaving 100% ethanol in the fuel pump pickup tube.

Depending on the timeline, position of your fuel pump, external air temperature, etc, this separation can lead to damage not covered by your manufacturer’s warranty. In-fact, if we take a minute to check out Honda’s owner’s question and help webpage, we read that Honda won't cover fuel system, engine or exhaust damage attributed to the use of E15 or E20 fuels."

I will be pissed if I'm forced to run this in our 2013 Acura (same 2.4L engine discussed in the article), because it will kill it in a short order. Same goes for the 4runner, I'm sure.

[Good Times]

Ken,

you've got a bummer url! :)

http://www.torquenews.com/1574/e15-gasoline-blend-will-damage-your-2-year-or-older-honda-civic

This is pretty disturbing (though I'm not surprised). Guess we're all screwed right? Time to get a Diesel or go full on crazy "electric"!

[paddlenbike]

Weird. If the link changes again, put this into google and it will be the first result---> "site:torquenews.com do not use ethanol honda"

I like electric drive but I don't care to be forced into it.

[Good Times]

The challenge with electric is the the limited range. Kinda similar to driving NGV due to the limited stations available.

I think it's a matter of time when people slowly adapt and adjust their love of fuel. I'm eying the Tesla but that's in the far distant future and definitely not within the next 5 years. :/

[Kryptoroxx]

The challenge with electric is the the limited range. Kinda similar to driving NGV due to the limited stations available.

I think it's a matter of time when people slowly adapt and adjust their love of fuel. I'm eying the Tesla but that's in the far distant future and definitely not within the next 5 years. :/

the range will improve drastically now that there is competition in the market.

What kills me though is we are simply transferring the creation of pollution to the power plants currently and those are mostly coal fired.

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[paddlenbike]

It blows me away how much of the United State's power is still produced from coal; coal just seems so 19th century.

From the EIA:
Coal 39%
Natural Gas 27%
Nuclear 19%
Hydropower 7%
Other Renewable 6%
Biomass 1.48%
Geothermal 0.41%
Solar 0.23%
Wind 4.13%
Petroleum 1%
Other Gases < 1%

California is doing much better than most of the U.S., relying 8% on coal, and expected to drop to 4.7% by 2022.

[Kryptoroxx]

Coal firing has come a long long way from the 19th century lol.....but I know what you mean. The tech we are developing with Nanotubes should help with attaining fusion power. Of course that won't be without failures too. Nuclear power is still in its infancy although I would prefer it over coal.

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