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Seanz0rz

09-21-2014, 12:26 PM

So it finally happened. I rolled the truck. Most importantly, every one is OK with the most minor of injuries you could ask for. It happened at night in the soft sands of Oceano Dunes (Pismo). I will let the pictures I took speak for themselves.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3902/15289174046_2d583bcef7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pi41M5)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5591/15312220895_bd875b69b6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pk68Nx)

The aftermath:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3913/15125674857_4817f5fe49_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p3B3ax)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15289180896_f0b9ec403d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pi43Pb)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/15289180506_1906664ed6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pi43Gs)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3893/15125674367_2ca9647fd4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p3B326)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3844/15125500750_606b5cda3a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p3A9pG)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5580/15312227335_f293bee361_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pk6aHz)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5582/15312227195_3191ca013a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pk6aFa)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15125500440_97ae664134_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p3A9jm)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5552/15309063951_8d1622d77d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pjNXmt)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5571/15309063631_6b47537e71_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pjNXfX)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5591/15125460359_bbe38d093b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p3zWpi)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3839/15289179226_101bb26665_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pi43jo)

I will do a full run down of the damage later when I can get a better handle on everything that needs fixin' or replacin'.

I did get the accident on video from my dash cam. We rolled 1.5 times. The initial impact removed the plug from the camera, so it only recorded the roll and stopped recording shortly after we stopped. I will upload that later and give a run down of events as we have pieced them together.

It took about 4 hours to completely recover the vehicle, something I could not have done without the help of my incredible friends. Biggest thank you to JC, Lance, Mike, and the one who shared the experience with me, John. The support on the beach the next day was very well appreciated and reminds me why I hang out with you guys.

The 4Runner is pretty battered, but I will probably do my best to salvage it unless the body proves to be too far gone.

Seanz0rz

09-21-2014, 12:40 PM

http://youtu.be/O6dy3weoHDY

Kryptoroxx

09-21-2014, 12:57 PM

Oh man Sean I'm not sure what to say. Best of luck piecing her back together! I am rather impressed with your roof rack though. It held up quite nicely imo.

Most important thing is everyone is ok though. Definitely glad no one was hurt.

Seanz0rz

09-21-2014, 01:03 PM

Same sentiment. Great everyone is OK, but otherwise somewhat speechless.

DHC6twinotter

09-21-2014, 01:49 PM

That's a real bummer, but I'm glad you all are ok. The doors, hood, and lift gate don't look too bad. Is the motor hydrolocked?

Looking forward to what you have in store for it.

Seanz0rz

09-21-2014, 01:52 PM

Thanks Dan. The driver's door is pretty crushed, especially around the hinge area. From my VW experience, I suspect it will be pretty messed up. Because of the fender being pushed so far in, I can't open the driver's door all the way. The other doors are OK (besides preexisting damage on the passenger side) except for some hilift jack scrapes and dents. Hood I think is OK but the driver's headlight looks like it is sticking out more than normal, so it might be a little tweaked. Lift gate is fine. All the doors and windows operate as normal, which I am pleasantly surprised by.

The motor ran for a few mins after we rolled. I shut it off before getting out of the truck. It sat upside down for about half an hour, so we didn't attempt to turn it over. I will pull the plugs and give her a crank to let the oil squirt out, but that might be next weekend.

I am looking up roll cage stuff now :D

troyboy162

09-21-2014, 02:27 PM

The hard things to fix on mine was the pillars and the windshield framing. Those all look pretty good on yours though it will take some more investigation to tell. It will come together ok. its just a pain in the ass to get done.

Seanz0rz

09-21-2014, 02:29 PM

The windshield frame looks pretty intact. I really want to study how the windshield broke to see where it might have moved.

I obviously have lots of questions for you. Did you ever find spec measurements for door openings, etc?

troyboy162

09-21-2014, 02:29 PM

oh and also the upside down time drained both my motor oil and my transmission fluid.

troyboy162

09-21-2014, 02:46 PM

no measurements just body seams and gaps to eyeball. Monty did all the straightening for me, but he showed my what was wrong. The gaps at the top of the doors to the roof line showed the cab had moved slightly in a trapezoid fashion. Dents in a B pilar showed the door hinges had moved in just a hair. The windshield frame had been pushed in at the top and that pulled one A pillar inward with it.

Yours looks good. The door jam seals are pretty forgiving to things out of spec so I hope you are good to go.

paddlenbike

09-21-2014, 02:46 PM

It hurts to watch, but most importantly, you guys are okay. The dunes are nasty; it is so easy to get in trouble out there.

Kryptoroxx

09-21-2014, 02:53 PM

Kryptoroxx

09-21-2014, 06:46 PM

Seanz0rz

09-21-2014, 07:27 PM

Very familiar with Brad's truck! I am thinking a partial exo, but we will see. Still looking.

4x4mike

09-21-2014, 08:14 PM

Pretty cool to see the dash cam footage. I guess it was 1.5 times but looked like 2.5. You guys fared pretty well and yes that was a hell of a recovery. I was exhausted.

Keep us up to date on the damage and options. I'd do a body swap or pull off all your stuff and put it on a replacement 3rd gen before I'd do a Mossyrocks build. Even if you do a partial exo it can be done down the road after getting into a reliable rig.

Seanz0rz

09-21-2014, 08:34 PM

I think the goal for this will be "as inexpensive as possible." I might splurge on a cage and some other refinements, but it's mostly about pounding it back towards its original shape and wheelin' again. Now that the roof sheet metal has seen some pretty good plastic deformation, it will never be the same. If there is a next time, I doubt it will perform the same.

Found ebay fenders for under 100 shipped each side, not bad.

Deciding between a tube bender and getting it done by a shop. I'm leaning towards a bender of my own.

paddlenbike

09-21-2014, 09:28 PM

I'm with Mike, I think a body swap would be the way to go. A cage just adds more weight and complexity, and quite frankly, more top-heaviness.

Finding a clean body could cost less than having the paint issues on your old body fixed.

4x4mike

09-21-2014, 09:36 PM

Replacement panels can be had but you still have to deal with the body. Like you said, it won't perform the same a second time but with a sunroof and the damage to the rear quarter panels it's dicey.

Pieces here and there, paint/wrap, banging out here and there is going to take time and nickle and dime you.

It looks like this is a 2wd and only an SR2 but it looks clean and a place to start. I assume you'd have to brush up on your Spanish or take someone with you.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4675900736.html

Another option:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4676384138.html

Or come up here and use a 4Runner as an excuse to visit.
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4679294874.html

BTW, green is the way to go. You've got the parts to make this a 4wd.
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4677424258.html

troyboy162

09-21-2014, 10:37 PM

Bang it out and run it. It cost me 2k I think when I rolled mine to get it semi straight and painted. You are more handy then me and the damages looks easier to fix.

If insurance helps you out you'll get good money, but your rates will go up so I feel thats a wash.

Seanz0rz

09-22-2014, 06:32 AM

No full coverage, so no help there. I'm with Troy. If I want a nice 4Runner again, I will buy another one down the road.

04 Rocko Taco

09-22-2014, 11:38 PM

Hell, I'd still DD it as is, beat that fender with a hammer so you can open the door and roll with it.

Pardon the pun.

I saw this on FB Sean, I am glad no one was seriously hurt, and if there is anything I can do from TN, or parts I can source, let me know bud.

04 Rocko Taco

09-22-2014, 11:44 PM

Yep I found it. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-tacoma/557102-3rd-gen-4runner-chop-top-exo.html and then more of the same on ultimate.
http://www.ultimateyota.com/showthread.php?600-Re-3rd-gen-4Runner-chop-top-exo

Very familiar with Brad's truck! I am thinking a partial exo, but we will see. Still looking.

Don't start down the Brad road, haha.
I bet he has 50K in that thing. AND its broke again, haha. He mostly wheels his RAZR now, but brings out the 4Runner if we get bored on the weekends.
I'm headed back over there this weekend, I'll try to get you any pics if you want inspiration. haha.

slomatt

09-22-2014, 11:50 PM

Wow, glad to hear nobody was hurt!

- Matt

Kryptoroxx

09-23-2014, 05:26 AM

Don't start down the Brad road, haha.
I bet he has 50K in that thing. AND its broke again, haha. He mostly wheels his RAZR now, but brings out the 4Runner if we get bored on the weekends.
I'm headed back over there this weekend, I'll try to get you any pics if you want inspiration. haha.
I did not know that lol. I thought it looked cool when he had the removable top though.

Seanz0rz

09-23-2014, 06:34 AM

Chris, I'd love pics! I miss hanging out on chat all the time (although nothing else about those days, lol) Give him my best too.

04 Rocko Taco

09-23-2014, 05:26 PM

Chris, I'd love pics! I miss hanging out on chat all the time (although nothing else about those days, lol) Give him my best too.

You got it on both counts!

Seanz0rz

09-23-2014, 07:07 PM

Thanks bud!

I am slowly working towards a game plan. I have a few scenarios I am working through. I need to start pricing out some things, but I think I will go value for money, basically how cheaply can I get the truck on the road. At some later date I will move towards a newer 4Runner or LC, but I am itching to get it back on the road.

4x4mike

09-23-2014, 09:29 PM

Great to hear. If there is anything in my neck of the woods you want me to look at or pick up let me know.

04 Rocko Taco

09-23-2014, 11:31 PM

Great to hear. If there is anything in my neck of the woods you want me to look at or pick up let me know.

I know the distance is killer, but same goes here.
By the way , let me know what you need, Brad has a 99 sitting behind the shop that I have been pulling misc stuff off of. I can hook you up. It's silver.

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 05:33 AM

Looking for a driver's heated mirror. It's one of the few things I can't fix.

Kryptoroxx

09-24-2014, 05:51 AM

http://www.lkqpickyourpart.com/locations/

Remember how Battlewagon and I scored all those cheap parts? We hawk that site and watch the sales.

Heck I'll offer my services with monstaliner if you find the panels in different colors and you want to paint it in that stuff. Normal paint I am no good at but I can tape and spray/roll monstaliner pretty well.

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 06:27 AM

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help!

Friday after work I will start pulling it apart. The front left tire went flat sometime Monday night, so it looks even more sad than before. I will come home and toss a jack stand under it today.

I think I'll try to fix the roof first, get it "road worthy" and then start working on the rear quarter panels.

4x4mike

09-24-2014, 07:14 AM

Aren't a lot of 3rd gen mirrors chrome? Mine are painted like yours but I'm not sure if the chrome ones are plastic chrome or have a thin sheet of chromed metal on them. I assume you'd want at least painted plastic?

Along with that roof fix you've got the sunroof. Any idea about how those are replaced? Our Subaru sunroof had issues and the dealer replaced the entire thing stating it was faster therefore cheaper for them. If the mechanicals are in good shape can just the glass be repaired assuming you can get the sheet metal straight enough?

I'm certain the driver side tires are full of sand. While you were inside and we were pulling they were just scooping it up. The rear that was leaking around the inside weight had sand blowing out at that location after we seated the bead. Hopefully some bead popping, cleanout and reseat will fix the issue.

4x4mike

09-24-2014, 07:16 AM

I know you'll be busy but I'll put the request out there for pictures. If you remove the entire headliner as well as rear plastic trim panels I'd like to see whats going on back there. Detailed pics of the inside of the body around the rear side glass mostly. I've got some ideas kicking around and those would fuel my fire.

4x4mike

09-24-2014, 07:31 AM

As far as I know there are at least two different shapes of side view mirrors. I know my '99's are different than the '00's. I'm not sure if those are the only two.

What year is your 4Runner and if and when you get the mirror off can you snap a pic of the connector?

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 08:16 AM

Mirrors from 96-00 I think fit. I think it's 01 02 that are different.

4x4mike

09-24-2014, 08:28 AM

Ok. I now notice your year in your sig.

I emailed DeathCougar to see about some parts. I found this in a post he had online.
"99+ have heated mirrors (5 wire main plug) and the 96-98 are NON-heated."

I asked in case you want the mirrors to match. You also mentioned headed but he said heated started in '99, but you know what you've got. I guess the big difference is 5 wire versus 3 wire.

I also found this guy online that posted some mirror info.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/1363268-post15.html

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 08:49 AM

I swapped to heated mirrors a while back.

4x4mike

09-24-2014, 09:19 AM

DC wants $60, shipped, for a silver heated mirror off a '98 Limited.

L33T35T Tacoma

09-24-2014, 10:26 AM

Have you turned the motor over yet? Besides a couple flat tires and a cracked windshield, what is keeping it from being driven?

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 11:13 AM

Not yet, Friday. Fenders, missing corner lights, tires, windshield and roof are the big items. I haven't had time after work this week.

MaK92-4Rnr

09-24-2014, 11:25 AM

Honestly, you could've drove it home from Pismo. A friend of mine flopped his 97 on the side and after putting it back on all 4s, let it sit over night, and fired it up. No smoking, or anything what so ever. just gotta wait for the oil to get back into the pan.

Also, I would completely ignore every other damage except for the roof/sunroof area. I know anything is possible and sure it can be rebuilt, but I went to highschool with a buddy that drove a 3rd gen and his was salvaged titled due to a roll over. He went to pick n pull, cut a roof off at the middle of the A pillars, and welded it all back on. 100% straight, windshield fit and didn't leak, and the sunroof was completely operational.

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 11:44 AM

Thanks for the help mike. I'll hit up DC soon.

04 Rocko Taco

09-24-2014, 06:46 PM

Just weld new sheetmetal over the sunroof. Is just a leak magnet anyway. :cool:

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 06:56 PM

I think that's the plan. I used my sunroof a grand total of 5 days this year. I'll do a roof console like Keith did in his 4Runner.

Marc P

09-24-2014, 08:16 PM

Sorry that happened Sean...but there is always that chance. That is part of the reason I parted with my gold 4runner. It was only a matter of time before I rolled that one...and I always had kids with me.

Glad to see the UY crew stepped up to help with the recovery. If I had been there, I would have helped for sure!

Seanz0rz

09-24-2014, 08:20 PM

Thanks Marc. I have the most awesome friends!

Kryptoroxx

09-25-2014, 06:52 AM

I think that's the plan. I used my sunroof a grand total of 5 days this year. I'll do a roof console like Keith did in his 4Runner.

You will find you have a ton of room up in the headliner once your sunroof is gone! I did a little poking around when I was doing the map light/sunglasses holder mod and I might end up using some space up there eventually. I was thinking maybe amplifiers or an inverter would fit with few issues. Small and flat would be the name of the game there.

Seanz0rz

09-27-2014, 10:34 PM

Today was productive! Yesterday I surveyed some of the damage and made the final decision to move forward with repair and replace instead of a full body swap.

Here is the link to the album: https://www.flickr.com/gp/98550067@N07/44558b

Picked up donor fenders, drivers door with mirror, fuel filler door and a much needed rear hatch latch (unrelated to the roll). Came home and stripped the interior, removed the busted sunroof assembly and vacuumed out the glass and sand.

Tomorrow I will start lifting the roof back into shape.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3878/15189569510_4a473e130d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p9fvPu)

troyboy162

09-28-2014, 01:57 AM

Kryptoroxx

09-28-2014, 12:13 PM

Sounds good! I dont envy you with all of those dents to push out but I think you'll still be ahead of the game timewise and money wise over the body swap.

I dont know what makes a dent receptive to this treatment but I guess its worth a try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9OGa9vB42Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT93P71alHs

I have never tried this but I bet it would work on some dents. The heat gun goes to about 200 deg and then the can flipped upside down cools the metal quite rapidly to below zero. The premise being the expansion and contraction of metal. The only danger being to the paint itself. Sometimes the paint doesn't react as well.

Sean that sounds like a lot of progress! For what it's worth the truck looks pretty good but there is a lot of work to be done.

Seanz0rz

09-28-2014, 01:52 PM

I'm sure this technique works great on a panel dent. I don't think I'd have much luck on the roof.

Which is what I'm working on now.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/15361152106_444b70b455_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pppVm7)

I've used the factory jack a few dozen times, never to actually lift the vehicle.

It's coming along nicely actually. I though the windshield structure was part of the body skin but it is not. I will get the body back to shape and then have to deal with the structural bits. Might have to cut the spot welds and move each piece individually, then reweld.

Seanz0rz

09-28-2014, 03:43 PM

I made much progress with the jack:
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/15385083445_0014e642cc_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/prwzip)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2949/15198353019_6db8f46c62_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pa2wRi)

These big dents will have to be popped out by hand, they are too far under the structure to get with the jack.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3893/15198506058_d6bed5dee4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pa3jkU)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3859/15381919621_d7f8d075f1_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/prfmNH)

This gouge is the worst spot. It wouldn't budge with the hammer, might just have to fill that in with bondo.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3876/15198599897_05ab0be83f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pa3NeP)

Here you can see just how far I moved the roof up from the structural members.
Before:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3874/15189512869_72e29603c2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p9fdYV)

After:
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2941/15385081965_35fe6b1e4e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/prwyRT)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2941/15385081775_1485b7a508_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/prwyNB)

To move the structure back up, I will have to drill out the spot welds between the two pieces, move the inner one up, then move the outer one and reweld.

Seanz0rz

09-28-2014, 04:25 PM

krypto, you'll have to school me in Monstaliner. It might just be what I end up doing on mine. Still considering options.

Kryptoroxx

09-28-2014, 07:22 PM

krypto, you'll have to school me in Monstaliner. It might just be what I end up doing on mine. Still considering options.

It's good stuff....and it might help you with filling in some of the imperfections that you can't fix plus it just looks badass. That last part is my own opinion of course lol.

Really like the progress and the ingenuity you are applying to fix your dents and what not. At this point you could look at just using monstaliner on your whole truck in and out ;) I always love seeing a naked interior. It really opens up all of the possibilities a vehicle has.

Seanz0rz

09-28-2014, 07:49 PM

I'm really leaning that way, especially if I can keep my factory color but avoid the complexity of a clear coat.

Kryptoroxx

09-28-2014, 08:13 PM

If you end up going that way it's about 90 bucks for no binder tint and around 258 plus shipping for the monstaliner kit.

Plastic sheeting, 2 quarts acetone, rags or shop towels, cheese cloth, gallon containers, measuring containers, and green green paint tape adds up to about 100 bucks to top everything off. Then you just have to decide whether to spray or roll.

Cheapest and toughest paint job if you ask me. No decals will ever stick to that finish though lol.

To help out I can provide the gun. It's the least I can do. A couple of containers will help but those are like 5 bucks on the monstaliner site.

Seanz0rz

09-28-2014, 08:20 PM

That's not bad. I was looking at around 2000 to have the truck resprayed professionally. I'm looking into coating the cargo area and replacing the carpet up front.

Kryptoroxx

09-29-2014, 10:30 AM

That's not bad. I was looking at around 2000 to have the truck resprayed professionally. I'm looking into coating the cargo area and replacing the carpet up front.
That's what I was looking at and to me it just wasn't worth it being out in the desert. I did see a stud welder for 65 bucks on Craigslist in corona. It might help with the dents. That's how a body shop pulls those nasty ones in your roofline.

paddlenbike

09-29-2014, 11:12 AM

Glad she's coming back alive! Not that she was ever dead, just bruised.

Seanz0rz

09-29-2014, 12:02 PM

Today or tomorrow might see the engine running. We'll see. Gotta clean out the sand so it doesn't drop down the spark plug holes.

4x4mike

09-29-2014, 12:15 PM

I was going to ask about this but saw you've been busy with other stuff.

I was delighted at how much sand I didn't get in the interior of the 4Runner. I was surprised considering I got in and out more than I ever have during the recovery. The floor mat sand is pretty easy to vacuum up but my vents and usual sand pockets weren't as bad as in the past.

04 Rocko Taco

09-29-2014, 04:46 PM

For those dents way up in the front of the roof near the windshield, we had some luck on a buddies Tacoma wedging a deflated ball in there (we used a football) and inflating it with the compressor and a needle kit, and POP, the dent came out. Cant guarantee it, but worth a shot to see if it works for you!

Seanz0rz

09-29-2014, 05:44 PM

Saw the bags on Eastwood. I'll play with it more In a few days. Today is a day off. I'm tired.

Seanz0rz

09-30-2014, 07:14 PM

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3929/15220245050_f24738914b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pbXJA7)

Above is a patch panel for my sunroof. I will have it laser cut at work, then cut notches so I can fold down a flange and use it to weld to the existing flanged opening. Making it out of 16 (0.060") or 14 (0.074") gauge steel (I'll see what the cost difference is).

I will eventually put up the opening with dimensions. My goal is something close, as I am sure there will be quite a bit of weld, seam sealer, and bondo to get it all finished up.

I haven't really felt like working on it after work, but I know I will have to start doing so to get it back on the road in a timely manner. Tomorrow I hope to get it started.

4x4mike

09-30-2014, 09:05 PM

You had me at LASER.

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/dr%20evil%20laser.jpg

Seanz0rz

10-01-2014, 05:46 AM

Hopefully no miniature clones hump the laser, especially when it's cutting my part!

Seanz0rz

10-04-2014, 06:47 PM

So, it is too hot this weekend to work on the truck. Last week was a wash too. Between being tired from work and it getting dark 1.5 hours after I get home, nothing got done.

Tomorrow is going to be another day of little work. I do plan on starting the engine soon, although I found a pretty large pile of oily sand in the air box which will have to be dealt with before that happens. I am going to go pick up a stud welder and some other supplies tomorrow.

My patch panel should come in next week or the week after, but I'm not quite ready to do it yet anyway. I have to move some stuff so I can get the truck near the welder outlet. Or finally break down and buy an extension cord for it.

After pulling the rack and looking at the rest of the roof better, it isn't as bad as I thought it was. The roof rails are toast, as seen in some of those pictures, and there may be one dent, but really it held up very well. Not sure how I am going to go about reattaching the roof rack, but it will be better than the factory solution.

Some plans have become more finalized.

Goal is to get it on the road soon but also get it "finished" before it really leaves the driveway. This means a few things:
Bodywork on the rear quarters needs to be completed sooner than later.
Decided to go the Monstaliner route, and that will be done as well.
Roof Rack will be rebuilt at the same time.
Looking into my options for low cost body insulation to apply inside while all the panels are out. Thinking just a couple layers of the foil lined bubble wrap might be a great cost effective solution, but I need to do some research on that.
Working on preliminary designs for the roof console. Thinking of putting my tablet mount up there as well, but we'll see. I will probably do a (few) cardboard mockups to test things out before I commit it to metal.

So that's where we stand now. I am itching to get working on it again.

I think the goal for on the road is probably January 1. I will try to work out a budget and schedule soon.

Jaydee914

10-04-2014, 07:51 PM

Jan 1 sounds like a reasonable date. Hope to see you out there soon - good luck with the repairs (and inevitable upgrades)!

paddlenbike

10-04-2014, 08:19 PM

Your plans sound good. Whatever you do with sound deadening, I would stick with something on the lighter side. I am guessing the bubble wrap is pretty light, but that asphault stuff can add up to 150+ pounds. The Monstaliner itself will be heavy, but should offer some insulating properties as well.

Seanz0rz

10-04-2014, 08:41 PM

That's the goal I think. Keep it light, anything is better than what was there, which is NOTHING! The bubble wrap stuff is pretty cheap (I already have some I can use) and I can attach it with some Super 77 or the like.

Kryptoroxx

10-04-2014, 11:22 PM

Just wanted to toss my opinions on the sound deadening and monstaliner with regards to weight and hang a few suggestions out there.

Sound deadening is pretty much what it sounds like. It lowers the resonant frequency of whatever surface your adhere it to thus making it sound more solid. A couple of products come to mind that are reasonable for what you have in mind. First is what I have experience in which is Alpha Damp. SecondskinAudio.com is the source and while it is similarly priced to Dynamat and other such items the stuff is 40mm thick rubber with a double foil thickness outer shell. I used it on my Scion XB when the road noise with 19" rims and low profile tires was too much. I ended up solving everything by going to 17" rims and a 55 sidewall but the Alphadamp solidified everything very well. It killed a lot of road noise without adding a ton of weight. IIRC you only need to cover 10% of a flat panel to effectively reduce the resonant frequency to a reasonable level for audio applications. For what you're talking about I would recommend 25% to reduce more vibration from tires and the like.

The other sound deadener that comes to mind is Lizard skin. Never used it but I've heard good things about it. Seems to be a beefed up undercoating used for sound deadening applications. A little cheaper than Alpha Damp but more prep work is involved since it's a spray application.

I silenced my xb with about 15lbs of product and I would be willing to bet that I added less than 30lbs when I did the Monstaliner. What everyone seems to think about is weight but the fact of the matter is that without adding mass you are not solving the problem. So if you did both of the products I suggested we could say that 60lbs of weight would be added to the total weight of your vehicle. That's less than any of the armor you have...except maybe the sliders or the roof rack. I think that's pretty good for getting a quieter ride for an offroad rig.

Remember we don't have to go fast because we can drive wherever the hell we want ;)

Seanz0rz

10-05-2014, 08:40 AM

I appreciate the input and I completely agree.

I am not going crazy with this. I am looking for basic insulation for sound and heat. I know my 4Runner will never be S-Class quiet, especially with aggressive tires. Just looking for some low cost insulation that is minimally invasive, easy to install, cheap, and did I mention cheap? I am not worried about weight (to a degree) and I recognize that 30 pounds will make no difference. I otherwise would not be adding insulation at this point, but since I have the interior out (especially the headliner), it seems like a good time to add something.

Kryptoroxx

10-05-2014, 09:48 AM

I guess the Lizard Skin didn't live up to it's name so they replaced it with this stuff and I would say it's probably what you're looking for as far as cheap, easy, and effective. In fact it might be more effective than you think. I would give this Spectrum Sludge a go for the interior since it is stripped. For a gallon of the stuff you should be able to do the whole bottom floor and up on the walls. For the ceiling area I recommend the AlphaDamp stuff or you can use the Damplifier sold by SecondSkinAudio. These guys' prices used to be a lot better but now that they have picked up a good reputation you see supply and demand in effect.

Just use a roller for the ceiling when you do the tiles. It will improve the effectiveness a LOT and speed things up a bit. I would apply that sludge stuff with a putty knife and thicken it up around the wheel wells and on the firewall. That would reduce a lot of noise for you.

Is it cheap? For what you are doing I think it's a good deal. However if you wait sometimes they have sales. I picked up my tiles on black friday or cyber monday for 76 bucks on the 20sq. ft. I think the total was 90 with shipping. I imagine that you would save a lot o cash if you at least waited to see what happens. My personal choice would be to spend a bit more and then NEVER have to touch it again lol. Removing interior panels isn't something you can do over and over again without breaking stuff.

http://store.secondskinaudio.com/spectrum-sludge-1-gallon/

http://alphadamp.com/

Also for what it's worth I was under the 4runner today applying rubber undercoating with a brush. I really hated life so for the love of the hair on your arms spray your undercoating lol.

Seanz0rz

10-11-2014, 07:55 PM

Update time!!!

Patch panel will be done next week, but I'm not ready for it quite yet.

Tried to work on the roof more this morning, but realized I really need a stud gun to proceed. Ordered one and went to tearing the front end and engine apart. Body work will have to wait until next weekend.

I didn't get many pictures of the process, it was VERY messy. Easily the most disgusting thing I have had to do on the truck.

There was easily over a quart of oil in my intake tube that poured out when I pulled it off.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2945/15510078592_509cd62078_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCzd19)

Driver's headlight housing. Broken. But then again, it was before too.
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15323881097_f77961389e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pm7TYv)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3953/15323880947_693e88527d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pm7TVV)

More parts gone from the front end:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3932/15510078812_4594298af5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCzd4W)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5607/15510471175_48e645f188_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCBdGP)

This is as far as I plan on going. There is a good amount of oil in the intake from here up. What little bit is left will just have to stay.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3942/15507314981_f74aa482c8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCk3tF)

Nekkid!
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3955/15323730080_7bbabf745e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pm785L)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2949/15510079222_a181dd3a15_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCzdc1)

The air box is full of sand and oil:
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2948/15507315521_d709e1d2a0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCk3CZ)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2949/15487304336_d2b57cfac5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pAyu1y)

The snorkel tube had about 4-6 cups worth of sand in it.

Goal tomorrow is to get everything cleaned up and reassembled after I pull the plugs out. Give her a crank or 2 and let it expel as much oil from the cylinders as possible. I will have to drop the skids and do an oil change. It will give me a pretty good idea how much oil leaked out up top, but I already know it was ALOT!!! I am not exactly sure what path it took either. The PCV tube didn't look too bad, but it might have had enough time to drip down and settle away from the hose.

Since I have everything apart for cleaning, it is a perfect opportunity to do the rewire of the front end I have been wanting to do.

I didn't find any nasty surprises on the core support or inner fenders. There were a couple of unexpected bent areas, especially the left headlight area, but nothing a hammer can't fix. Cleaned up the hood as best I could. It is going to require much more than simple green and a paper towel though. Cleaning up the puddles of oil and sand reminded me of the garage scene from Pulp Fiction.

Feels good to work on it, wish I had more time after work before it gets dark to work on it during the week. Once I get past the body work, the rest should be something I could do in the dark.

Seanz0rz

10-11-2014, 08:12 PM

Also, a $$$ update. So far I have spent less than $500 on the fenders, door, and other parts plus tools and supplies I have purchased up to this point.

Paint items will be around 500-600. I will be spending a bit of money to upgrade the electrical up front and throughout. I am also looking at replacing the passenger area carpet, which should be under 200.

A new windshield will run about 200, and I will have to find a new headliner. This should do it on replacement parts to get it back roadworthy. The headlight and corner lights that are broken will be glued back together, or I might take Bob up on his offer and weld them.

If I make it out under $2k with a few upgrades and improvements, I think I did pretty well!

4x4mike

10-11-2014, 08:26 PM

Oh man, I don't envy you. FWIW you've done half that labor involved to install a supercharger...

Seanz0rz

10-11-2014, 08:31 PM

I was thinking the same thing. I sadly don't have the money to buy one right now. I was also thinking about doing the timing belt since I have so much of the engine pulled apart, but again, I don't even have money for that. The good thing is I can spread some of the cost of this over the next few months since I get so little done each week!

paddlenbike

10-11-2014, 08:45 PM

Looks like a messy clean up. I'd probably be looking to remove those engine parts and borrow someone's pressure washer. Cleaning sand out of those ribs in the airbox by hand would be extremely time consuming.

It's nice you'll get some upgrades out of this as well. Not to mention whatever you do for paintwork will look better than the peeling clearcoat you had before.

Nice work Sean.

Seanz0rz

10-11-2014, 08:48 PM

paddlenbike

10-11-2014, 09:25 PM

^^ Much better idea.

Kryptoroxx

10-12-2014, 06:32 AM

I have a pressure washer. Problem for me is where does the oily sand go?

My plan is to get a couple of rubbermaid bins, fill them full of hot water and Dawn soap, let the parts soak in the sun for the week, and scrub them each day. Then I can filter the oil and sand out of the water when I dump it out. I will try to knock out as much sand before hand and put it in the trash.
You've got the right idea I believe. I would take a look at simple green or marine clean as well. Marine clean is what I use to prep surfaces for paint and generally it will knock stuff off without scrubbing. You want to use gloves with it and you need to dilute it as well.

That's the nice part about it though. For tougher stuff you can dilute it less to a point and get the stuff separated. Not too bad on price either.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001NG5AM8?pc_redir=1411901702&robot_redir=1

Iirc it is a 5:1 minimum mixture but I have never gone that strong. It's REALLY potent so I usually go 8:1 in a normal plastic spray bottle.

How I use it is I spray the piece down and let it sit for 5-10 min and then scrub if I need to. Rinse after and repeat if necessary.

DHC6twinotter

10-12-2014, 07:18 AM

Wow, you've made a lot of progress! Looks like quite a bit of work.

Have you decided on what color you will be painting it?

Seanz0rz

10-12-2014, 08:31 AM

Kryptoroxx

10-12-2014, 03:07 PM

I have been using 50/50 Simple green to clean up. It works pretty well, but I will be chasing it with engine degreaser at some point.

Dan, I have decided to go color matched Monstaliner. Thanks to Krypto for the idea! I think it's going to look great!

Simple Green is great stuff! Wasn't sure if it was as easy to find off base. Jarheads use that stuff for everything except toothpaste it seems..jcbxvdcvcuw

Wow, you've made a lot of progress! Looks like quite a bit of work.

Have you decided on what color you will be painting it?

I agree with dhc6twinotter. I think you're doing great with everything. I also think the color matched monstaliner will look awesome.....but I am biased too.

Seanz0rz

10-12-2014, 03:36 PM

Thanks everyone!

I've been using simple green forever. It is great stuff. I usually buy it by the gallon at home depot. It actually didn't work all that great on this stuff. The dawn did a better job I think, but nothing worked very well, even the carb cleaner was only so effective.

Air box, intake tube, throttle body and IAC valve, upper and lower plenums, along with all the dingleberries hanging off the intake tube are clean, plus the intake elbow, taco tube, and snorkel tube. Oh and the shroud for the washer reservoir. Lexi helped me scrub them. The plastic and rubber parts got soaked in dawn and scrubbed then wiped down with simple green and rinsed.

The air box was by far the worst. It actually still has sand in it. I will let it dry out and try to remove the last of it with compressed air. Maybe a Swiffer duster will work? Lexi did the bulk of the scrubbing (I love my wife so much!) while I cleaned up the throttle body and IAC. I think the oil actually entered through the bottom of the IAC where there is a return tube to the crank case/head. This is how the IAC naturally drains oil back into the engine when it catches it from the PCV valve. That's my theory at least.

I still have to clean the washer reservoir (outside, inside looks pretty good) and the headlight, plus more of the inner fender, inside the bumper, skid plates, etc.

I will sometime this week or weekend pull the plugs and give her a crank when I get the top end reassembled. Was hoping to do that today but didn't want to rush it all.

Now I have about 20 gallons of water to dispose of. I plan on filtering it a few times so I can return most of the water to the ground and toss the filters and sand.

Seanz0rz

10-18-2014, 07:44 PM

Productive day with no pictures.

Pulled the spark plugs. Cyl 4 was oily, other 5 looked OK. Looked down into the ports and saw 1,2,5,6 full of oil. Intake valves on 3 and 4 were open and allowed the oil into the cylinders. I mopped up what I could up top, then turned the engine over. A bunch of oil shot out but there was still a lot in the cylinders, especially 3 and 4. I used a mityvac to remove the rest. Reinstalled the plugs and got as far as the lower plenum. Tomorrow I'll have it running.

Kryptoroxx

10-19-2014, 10:55 AM

Hey cool! Always glad to hear progress.

I am moving right now so my life is surrounded by cardboard boxes and honey do lists that come every 5 minutes or so lol.

Good news is I got my two car garage!!....but it looks more like a quarter car garage till I get everything moved around. I also have no pictures lol.

Seanz0rz

10-19-2014, 11:13 AM

slosurfer

10-19-2014, 01:41 PM

Awesome! Glad to hear!

Kryptoroxx

10-19-2014, 01:45 PM

Great to hear!

I just got her started up! She runs great, except for the smoke screen I created. Had to shut it down after a few minutes because it smoked out the neighborhood. I expect that to last for several dozen more minutes, so I will have to wait to a windy day or just do it in small increments.
Not sure if this would help get the oil out or make the neighbors really hate you but you could always go with seafoam through a vacuum line. That puts it in the cylinders and through the head. I know it would smoke a ton but instead of it being several times it might just get you shot at once lol.

Seanz0rz

10-19-2014, 02:21 PM

It was smoking worse than the last time I did Seafoam on my Honda!

I let it run for a few more minutes, until the smoke got too bad. Then again, and it never smoked bad enough to stop. Let it idle for maybe 20 mins while I pulled the tail lights (Big mistake doing something next to the exhaust though!). It was still smoking when I turned it off. I will do it a couple of times after work next week, but I am pleased with the way the engine runs. I do hear a whine from the engine somewhere. Not sure if it's a rotational whine or vac leak whine. I will figure it out later. Next weekend hopefully I will get to some body work. Still aiming for a Thanksgiving weekend paint job.

04 Rocko Taco

10-20-2014, 08:58 PM

Great to hear bud!
Getting it running and rolling is always the two biggies. Everything else is just details.

...course there may often be a LOT of details, haha.

Seanz0rz

10-25-2014, 07:30 PM

Didn't get to work on the truck much today, but got some stuff done that will allow me to.

Trailer on the driveway had a flat. Tires were bald anyway, and the right bearing was cooked. Spent today swapping out bearings and getting fresh tires. Not sure how that took all day, but it did.

Now that it is mobile again, it can be moved so I can put my truck closer to the welder outlet on the side of the garage.

While cleaning up, I let my truck run for about 1 hour. It is still smoking pretty bad, but by the end it was less. Hopefully it is on its way to not smoking anymore. I am ready to start welding up the sunroof hole, and pulling the rest of the dents with the stud welder, but it needs to move first. Before that happens, I have to move the Squareback and a bunch of other stuff. We have too much crap.

Discovered my compressor is incapable of providing the necessary air flow for spraying the Monstaliner. Looking into alternatives from buying a new compressor to renting one or finding someone that will spray it for me. Renting and doing it in my garage looks like the best option.

4x4mike

10-26-2014, 10:19 PM

Renting a small gas hotdog compressor should give you enough air. I'm not sure what your rental place has available but mine has those for cheap and they have near double digit output. How sensitive is the Monstaliner to moisture? If you rent something that has a small tank but high output I'd consider running the rental air through your tank and then to your gun. Filter out of your tank and at the gun.

Seanz0rz

10-27-2014, 06:33 AM

Kryptoroxx

10-27-2014, 08:46 AM

50 a day isnt bad, which is what my local rental yard wants. Now I need a space. I was going to build a temp booth on the side of the house, but my worry is it will be too cold for proper curing. I might spray it outside and then push it into the garage for the week, but that means a major cleaning of the garage as well.

You're good as long as you can keep it above 50 deg after spraying it. If you can do that for the first night then you are golden. After that you would just need to make sure you dont test the durability of the paint for a week and mist it a few times a day. Not sure what the temps are down there but around here we are getting close to 50 at night.
Inside the garage you should be able to keep it above 50 with a space heater and some work lights.

I would also consider rolling it out. I had good results and it on the fenders and would be much cheaper too. In addition with some help by the time you rolled from front to back it would be very close to time to roll the second coat.....and then you're done!

If you need a clean garage I do have one of those now ;)

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/27/37d789a162f20cd0adc92c18e072826f.jpg

All the boxes are gone and the huge desk is about to disappear.

04 Rocko Taco

10-27-2014, 09:18 PM

I have nothing useful to add other than, I feel your pain Sean! I am currently trying to clean out enough space to get my junk back into the garage to get some major work done as well.

4x4mike

11-05-2014, 09:45 AM

How the work on the 4Runner going?

Seanz0rz

11-05-2014, 10:12 AM

Working towards moving it inside the garage. It will take a few weeks but it should make my life a little easier.

troyboy162

11-16-2014, 11:00 AM

progress? lets get this rig-a-ma-roll back to rolling :)

Seanz0rz

11-16-2014, 11:03 AM

Still working on the garage. Just getting it to a point where I can see more than 4 consecutive square feet of the floor is a challenge. Getting there though. Hoping to pull it in next weekend, but that might be a stretch.

Once it's inside, I can work on it for a few hours every night instead of watching TV or cruising the internet. YAY productivity!

Kryptoroxx

11-16-2014, 01:14 PM

Seanz0rz

11-16-2014, 02:00 PM

At this point, it isn't even the money. We have the shelves, bins, boxes, etc. It's just 30+ years of stuff, tools, equipment, etc. shoved into a 2 car garage. It is daunting with so much STUFF. It all has value, so I feel bad throwing some of it away. But when no one has used an item for 20 years, it's time for it to go away. Either trash, yard sale or goodwill.

I will be having a for sale thread soon I think. I expect most of it will be free + shipping or you come and get it!

paddlenbike

11-16-2014, 05:05 PM

Uh oh, sounds like someone else will be joining us in the garage organization thread. :)

Seanz0rz

11-16-2014, 05:09 PM

I'll grab some pics tonight.

Kryptoroxx

11-16-2014, 05:10 PM

Uh oh, sounds like someone else will be joining us in the garage organization thread. :)
Or he has stolen all of our ideas already!

Seanz0rz

12-01-2014, 08:41 PM

4runner is in the garage. Just in time to be out of the rain. Work starts tomorrow.

Kryptoroxx

12-01-2014, 09:58 PM

4runner is in the garage. Just in time to be out of the rain. Work starts tomorrow.
Man I know that's a good feeling.

04 Rocko Taco

12-02-2014, 02:34 AM

4runner is in the garage. Just in time to be out of the rain. Work starts tomorrow.

Woot!

paddlenbike

12-02-2014, 07:37 AM

4runner is in the garage. Just in time to be out of the rain. Work starts tomorrow.

I miss the emoticons on UY...instead of this text you would see a little smiley face dancing around all happy-like.

troyboy162

12-02-2014, 06:46 PM

two minutes with ftp access to lances server : )

Kryptoroxx

12-02-2014, 07:03 PM

I'm for it.

paddlenbike

12-03-2014, 08:32 AM

I'm for it.

http://www.yotatech.com/images/smilies/domo2.gif

fenrisx

12-03-2014, 04:35 PM

Dang... late to the party, but glad y'all OK Sean!

Seanz0rz

12-03-2014, 09:07 PM

Thanks Cody. Good to see ya around again!

Ken, all I see is a square.

fenrisx

12-04-2014, 04:26 PM

Thanks Cody. Good to see ya around again!

Ken, all I see is a square.

yessir! thanks

Seanz0rz

12-06-2014, 09:22 PM

Tried out the stud welder. Went a little too long and burned thru the panel a bit. Still pulled the dent (single dimple in the left rear door from the hilift jack), but I will have to weld it and tap down the high spot.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8627/15776838098_eea51ab428_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q39qiY)

Stripped the driver's door, replaced it with the new one and got the wiring harness swapped over (since the 97 donor didn't work).
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7578/15778232579_2bb4f3338c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q3gyQK)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8647/15776998160_142c14f6a4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q3aeTE)

I ordered my touch up paint to do the edges of the door and fenders. I will also repaint my door handles and touch up a couple of spots here and there.

Tomorrow I will start working on pulling the dents in the roof. I cleaned up the panels and started marking out where studs should go and where the panel needs to be pounded down. I cleaned up some of the body, especially the A pillar to see if there was any deformation. None to speak of, just some small dimples from where the fender crushed in. I might work on getting the drivers fender on next week after work. That should be a 1 or 2 evening project.

paddlenbike

12-06-2014, 09:37 PM

First of all, wow, it's in the garage! That's big right there. You're going to have some good bodywork skills after this. Did you decide to go with factory color or are you just using it for the parts you see from the inside? In the pictures you posted, the paint looks too nice to bedliner over. I know you had some paint issues on the roof and hood, but those are the two easiest places to hide a less than perfect paint job.

Seanz0rz

12-06-2014, 09:44 PM

I am going with color matched monstaliner like Kyptrorocks did. I think it will provide the best finish for the money and work. Doing an automotive grade finish with this level of body damage would be too much work. If that was the goal, a body swap would have been a better choice.

2 cans of color match, 3 cans of clear, and one can of plastic adhesion promoter was about 80 bucks. Monstaliner will end up being around 400.

Kryptoroxx

12-06-2014, 10:51 PM

Lookin good!

Congrats on the garage as well. Glad to see things are getting patched back up slowly and surely. I am sitting on my hands up here in the desert waiting for tsc to give me a call so I am glad you are having better success.

I got my tint from the bumper store on amazon. They charged 90 for enough tint to do 2 gallons.

I have had more than one person say that they don't even notice it's bedliner till they really get up close. Then everyone wants to feel the finish.

Not sure how much dent that stuff will cover but the matte nature of monstaliner will hide some of the slight imperfections for sure.

Seanz0rz

12-07-2014, 09:09 AM

Kryptoroxx

12-07-2014, 09:45 AM

Thanks for the tint info. I'll have to give them a call and see what they can do for me.

Once I get a feel for how long it takes me to do a panel (starting with the roof), I will place my order so it doesn't sit around forever but also so I'm not waiting for it to show up.

I still think I can have it out of the garage by the 1st, but not painted or reassembled. Wiring will also take a bit longer.
There are other suppliers out there I am sure but wherever you get it make sure there are no binders in the mix. It has to be straight tint ($$) otherwise it won't mix or harden correctly.

The monstaliner arrives in about a week. It ships from somewhere in New York I think.

Seanz0rz

12-07-2014, 10:06 AM

Thanks. I'll have to look around and see if I can source it locally.

Seanz0rz

12-07-2014, 08:32 PM

Late post. Flickr doesn't do bbcode on their mobile app and their website doesn't work in mobile browsers very well.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15783421428_b0224cd5e0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q3JaiE)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7530/15784797139_cdc8f0a90a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q3RdfP)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7525/15968838581_4c5639be13_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qk7tn8)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7522/15351193613_1af7db7afa_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/powT2X)

I feel like a made a ton of progress but with a pretty big factual setback. I found the panel to be much more concave than I had previously thought. I am not really sure how to pull the panel back straight. It has deformed between the rear passenger door jamb and the rear hatch area. It needs to move forward towards the rear door and back towards the cargo door. I am not quite sure how I will achieve that. Other than that, I feel like I got a ton done on this area for the ~2ish hours I worked on it. I ended up with a bad headache all day (not sure if it was from the weld fumes or the paint dust, but I had it before I started, so I am guessing it was just a headache day). Might work on it tomorrow night after work.

I can solve some of my problem by moving the rear door "in" 20-30 thou, although that really isn't the correct solution. It may end up being what I do and call it good. I am thinking of tubing over that general area anyway, so I think it won't matter so much if it is not perfect, although you will notice against the 2 doors.

Stud welder is pretty awesome, and just what I needed. It's pretty amazing having 2 stud welders working on the same vehicle ;)

Work will commence on the roof when I have a chance to clean up the interior a bit more. Having a hard time finding places for stuff now!

4x4mike

12-07-2014, 08:52 PM

It's the metal stretched? Other than the dent I guess I don't know what you mean by deformed.

So with the stud welder, the one you plug in, do you put a slide hammer on the stud? Or does the gun pull it?

Kryptoroxx

12-07-2014, 09:27 PM

I will talk to one of the guys at work tomorrow. He was certified in auto body before the service so he might have some tips. From what I learned when I gave auto body a whirl with my pickup patience is your best friend. If you only work on it a little at a time so be it.

*Just as a side note I also learned auto body was not my strong suit*

Seanz0rz

12-13-2014, 12:49 PM

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7508/15828069807_fc293f5aab_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q7EZHi)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7564/16013129002_261891b852_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qp2tn5)

Top of the door:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7524/15826409418_db41afb04f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q7wu8U)

Lower:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/15826409348_699f566afd_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q7wu7G)

Lower:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7509/15827794529_c04452217d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q7DzT8)

Lower:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7515/15394193953_fe076cb15a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pskgx8)

So what happened is as I rolled over, the rear quarter panel crushed in on the soft sand. As the metal pushed in, instead of stretching, it pulled in the sides where the rear passenger and cargo doors meet the panel. The studs I placed next to the jamb only pulled out the sheet metal around the studs, and did nothing to pull the jamb back out to place. It is pushed back 1/4" in places. I also tried adjusting the striker but it is not helping much, maybe .030" at most. I will take what I can get, but that is not the correct fix. I might cut and reweld, but I'll wait to do that until I get the rest of the panel straight.

YotaFun

12-13-2014, 01:59 PM

When I got broadsided on the left rear, they had to cut and weld in a new 1/4 cause the same issue happen, so from the middle of the driver rear door to the hatch is a new weld in panel which consequently is rusting away -_-

Seanz0rz

12-13-2014, 02:21 PM

I am thinking about it. It would honestly be about the same amount of work to cut this one out, cut out a donor at a junk yard and weld it in. or pay the ~$700 from Toyota for a new panel

Seanz0rz

12-13-2014, 02:33 PM

pulling the filler neck boot allows me a bit more access to pull on the panel. I might invest in the air bags to help bring it back to shape.

YotaFun

12-13-2014, 03:35 PM

IF you do decided to do the cut and weld path, try to get every nook and cranny covered in paint, I have the limited flares to cover the spot with what is probably going to end up being a shitty repair when I finally get around to it (working on getting a place to work inside) the place where i got the work done has one of those guarantee as long as you own the vehicle but after they screwed me over on the bump rear axle they put in I really don't want to deal with them, plus i am sure they wuld use some excuse like "Well you off road it so that damage isn't really our fault"

Seanz0rz

12-13-2014, 04:04 PM

I bought a football (thanks Chris!) to stuff in there to see if I can persuade it to move out a bit. Again, not going for perfect, just going for decent. It is impossible to get to the back of the panel, in some places there are at least 2 other panels behind it.

Removing that panel is really not going to happen. It would be far too much work. I will be cutting the wheel well on the passenger side as it folded in the accident. I'll probably try to save a much metal as possible and just do a small patch after everything gets straightened out.

Seanz0rz

12-13-2014, 06:02 PM

Driver's corner panel is actually coming along. Half or 2/3 of it is actually pretty good now. The spot between the tail light and the filler door, plus the D pillar are still pretty nasty. I might drill out the spot welds in the D pillar under the rear hatch and pull it out a bit to better match the profile of the hatch. I can't open the rear door right now, so I will have to wait until I can push it forward in the garage. I will update this with pics when I finish up.

Another Sharpie shot, this time an "after"
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7547/16016033175_c1de922b1e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qphmF2)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7470/16015341722_e595215200_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qpdP8q)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8662/15830287187_e483048d1f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q7SmRZ)

The panel gap is "better" but still too "1970's American Car"
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7573/16014071421_b7c225aaa5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qp7ivF)

Panel is no longer concave, but still not the proper convex shape
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7515/16016032775_4a03ac8732_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qphmy8)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8659/15396403323_9bd0c01488_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pswAiH)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8591/15828776960_db8d8b56b5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q7JBVA)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7499/15393773234_1ff4ab2c50_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/psi7tm)

paddlenbike

12-13-2014, 08:04 PM

What a huge improvement though Sean! What is the process for pulling the dents? (Clearly I have never done bodywork.)

Seanz0rz

12-13-2014, 08:28 PM

Since I have no access to the back side, it's 100% stud welder. I use a blue strip wheel on my grinder to remove the paint, then the stud welder to weld a copper stud to the metal. You have to be careful to not burn thru the panel.

Attach the slide hammer and pull out the dent. Obviously there is a bit more to it than that. You try to place them in the right place to do the most work. To remove, clip them off with some diagonal cutters and grind flat. Sometimes you have to tap the high spot back down.

I also used a football to squeeze in between the inner and outer panels to push it out. Not perfect but it did work great in a few spots. I'll take some more pics of tools and techniques tomorrow.

I think I will do one more day of hammering on it then call it good enough.

Kryptoroxx

12-13-2014, 09:10 PM

I am nothing short of amazed with the work you have done!! Definitely can't wait to see what it looks like in person.

troyboy162

12-13-2014, 09:22 PM

You are going to have to carry a picture of the roll over around with you since no one will believe its been shiny side down.

paddlenbike

12-13-2014, 09:37 PM

You are going to have to carry a picture of the roll over around with you since no one will believe its been shiny side down.

Seriously, that's some good work. Thanks for the explanation.

YotaFun

12-14-2014, 01:56 PM

Great work Sean! I'd hire you if you were closer to get some dents out of my Camry lol!

Seanz0rz

12-14-2014, 02:47 PM

I am nearly ready to call this quarter panel "DONE!"

This part didn't come out very well:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7480/15997234796_b7a7ff87ef_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qnC1z3)

I will try to stuff the football back in there and see if I can get it pushed out a little bit.

This is still a problem area. I will be looking under the hatch to see how to unweld, pull it out, and reweld. Can't get to it right now, so it will just have to stay for now.

Whole section still doesn't look right:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7485/16021065391_c572eb33ec_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qpJ9zn)

Not sure what else I can do there, but I don't think I am going to really worry too much. It is still an offroad vehicle.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8593/15837269577_6f74bd5cd2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q8u9u2)

So as of now the quarter is done. I still have to grind off some stud remnants, hammer down some high spots and get rid of the stud pimples. Also a few holes to weld up. I never did get an answer from Monstaliner concerning coating over bondo and what spray primer is acceptable; looks like some more research for me!

Thanks for the kind words. Pictures don't do the lumpy panel justice. It is still pretty nasty looking, lumpy, and extremely far from perfect.

Kryptoroxx

12-14-2014, 05:17 PM

From everything I have read and experienced most primers will be acceptable except self-etching. What has been recommended is 2k primer but as always you scuff the surface well before applying monstaliner.

As far as the bodywork I think it looks pretty good. It certainly is a large improvement over what it was and I imagine that once the surface isn't so glossy (after the monstaliner) it will look even better.

Seanz0rz

12-21-2014, 02:24 PM

Didn't do much this weekend. Stupid bad back.

Removed my bad tire so I can get the two fixed maybe next weekend.

Replaced the filler neck boot and fuel filler door and adjusted it to be OK. I think I will spend a few more minutes tweaking it.

Finished off the door wiring and such. My battery is completely dead now, won't even hold a charge. Diehard Platinum from 12/08 so it is not exactly new. I'll get it replaced next weekend when I'm out and about with the tires. Probably go to a larger size while I'm at it. Cannot get the left-right movement on the mirrors to work either, but I think that might be a voltage issue.

Hung the fender and got it aligned pretty good. I might tweak it a bit up by the A pillar, but it is pretty OK.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8603/16048768136_00712f9e03_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qsb8CU)

Next is the roof. Hopefully my back feels better by next weekend.

Kryptoroxx

12-21-2014, 05:43 PM

Seanz0rz

12-27-2014, 03:49 PM

Got my tires fixed today, and that's about all. I will work tomorrow on it, today is a dead day I think. It's another step though!

Seanz0rz

12-28-2014, 04:48 PM

Bad news first:

I found more damage:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7583/16133004175_b3905eb025_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qzBS5p)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7504/16132256762_587a4731aa_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qzy2TY)

I am not really sure what to even think about that. Door looks misaligned, the top of the A pillar looks like it pulled away too. I think I will adjust the door and see if it leaks up there (or whistles) and if it does, fill it with sealant or something. I'm not worried about it too much, but it is definitely deformed.

Good News:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7551/15947245447_8f2c7529c9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qicNtH)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7481/15510664634_77b7bd8de9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCCddj)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8668/15945698820_8738a87563_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qi4SHJ)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7492/15513281213_b4cc5dd692_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pCRC2K)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7563/15947244057_ff4bf96321_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qicN4K)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7481/15945698190_ea8e5bf8ea_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qi4SwS)

It is really coming along. All of the dots are areas that need to come up, circles are areas that need to come down.

I am really happy how the roof is coming out. Goal is to get it 75% and let the Bondo do the other ~15%. It took much less time than I thought it would. I still have the inner structure to fix, but I am confident that will go well.

Does anyone have experience with seam sealers? I am starting to get to the point of needing it.

troyboy162

12-28-2014, 05:51 PM

might have a slight trapazoid shape to the cab. I'm sure I do looking at my door seals, but It wont bother anything.

Seanz0rz

12-28-2014, 05:55 PM

Yeah, I'm not super concerned.

I do have to say, a body swap would probably have been the better choice, but I'm glad I kept the original body.

Kryptoroxx

12-29-2014, 11:18 AM

No experience with seam sealers but I imagine it's like caulking.

Truck is looking great man!! Every pic looks better.

Bob98SR5

12-30-2014, 12:27 PM

i used seam sealer on all welds that were not exterior facing. like i had a bunch of welds underneath that got seam sealed after welding and then i took the extra step of using undercoating (where possible) to ensure that there was an extra layer between it and the seam sealed welds. i recommend it.

Seanz0rz

12-30-2014, 02:41 PM

Thanks Bob. What brand did you use?

I am trying to figure out how to seal up the roof properly. I am not sure I can do a full weld.

Seanz0rz

01-01-2015, 05:26 PM

Something of a productive holiday. Yesterday I got the roof just about as close as it's going to get. Couple of spots need some more love, but overall I am very happy with it.

I lost count at 80 studs, but it wasn't much more.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8677/15982235670_bcd6781e52_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qmi8Rq)

Passenger side A pillar:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7514/15982119348_f076bb5277_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qmhxgS)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7514/15982119348_f076bb5277_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qmhxgS)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7582/15983771707_a29150e639_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qmr1sP)

What the inside of that panel looks like:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7480/16167671341_cfb1465edf_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qCFxqa)

You can see I have already drilled out the spot welds here.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8594/15547202354_0619dd7e03_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pFRtB1)

Not bad for a HF tool:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7537/15982231890_a9e727f201_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qmi7Jf)

So a few things. I need to do something about the bare metal on the inside of the panel. I want it to last at least another 5 years before rusting thru. I will probably spray some Rustoleum in there and call it good.

Tomorrow night I'll have to figure out a way to straighten that inner structure. Not sure how to do that, but it doesn't have to be perfect (and will be far from it!). I also might add some material to possibly reinforce the area.

I also finally got the fixed tire and wheel back on, so she is now no longer supported by a jack stand.

Kryptoroxx

01-01-2015, 08:33 PM

I'm sure she's looking rather scarred from all of the stud welds but give us a profile shot! I would love to see what the whole rig looks like.

I am sure there are imperfections but if it passes the 10ft rule you have done very well. Plus I am sure when you go through with the monstaliner it will hide even more. It ends up being rather thick stuff and if you end up spraying you can easily fill in a tad.

Seanz0rz

01-03-2015, 11:47 AM

You asked and shall receive.

The area above the windshield on the left side that looks bumpy, is. It looks worse in pics for a number of reasons, but that will be smoothed out by bondo, and should actually look pretty decent when it's all done.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7482/15999734610_68cb4c3dec_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qnQPFh)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7562/15999734640_fd37e5195d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qnQPFN)

I will probably pull the fender again to get it to fit a bit better and paint the edges I didn't realize were visible when the door is open. Won't be too bad.

I am starting to look at seam sealers, body fillers, etc. I will be ordering those within the next week, and probably order my monstaliner a week later.

I don't feel much like working on it today. I will probably start working on an electrical outline. My buddy is working on getting me OEM style waterproof connectors to use on the the new electrical system, so that will be nice. I have another roll of LED's coming in next week some time for a cool little project once I get it all put back together. I might also use them for rock lights.

Kryptoroxx

01-03-2015, 02:21 PM

You're right about the bondo but for the most part it looks really good!

For electrical connectors I use waytek wire. They have the Weatherpack connectors which are really nice. I used the amazon ones on all of my lighting connections.

These are the ones I used. They aren't bad for China made. I will be using the actual Weatherpack connectors in the future though.

http://www.amazon.com/Pins-Waterproof-Electrical-Wire-Connector/dp/B00KKNVLPA/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1420323058&sr=8-14&keywords=weatherpack

Actual Weatherpack connectors

http://www.amazon.com/JEGS-Performance-Products-Weatherpack-Starter/dp/B0081ZY4EY/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1420323058&sr=8-8&keywords=weatherpack

YotaFun

01-03-2015, 02:52 PM

Don't feel bad about your alignment issues, even professionals couldn't get it right and I think you have done a much better job then when I got broad sided:
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz219/Yota-Boy/20150101_1704531_zps2f664e0e.jpg (http://s829.photobucket.com/user/Yota-Boy/media/20150101_1704531_zps2f664e0e.jpg.html)

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz219/Yota-Boy/20150101_1705071_zps1708362c.jpg (http://s829.photobucket.com/user/Yota-Boy/media/20150101_1705071_zps1708362c.jpg.html)

YotaFun

01-03-2015, 02:53 PM

also they used bono on a pinch weld instead of actually welding and least you pulled out the welder :-)

Seanz0rz

01-03-2015, 03:11 PM

Hey, I haven't welded it yet!!!

I am still debating on how to attach the sun roof patch. I was going to flange it down but now I am thinking just basically setting it on top and welding around it, sealing the crap out of it and calling it done. One is 4 days of work, the other is 1-2.

Krypto, That first link is for an AMP/TYCO connector. Not the same as Weatherpack, but I actually like them better. The ones I am getting look nearly identical to the Toyota OEM connectors. I don't think a Toyota mechanic would be able to tell the difference, except they are black instead of gray. They might even be compatible.

Weatherpack connectors are great. I used them on my roof rack. My only issue with them the size. They are pretty large for connecting 4 wires. They can also get $$$ quick.

Kryptoroxx

01-03-2015, 03:13 PM

Seanz0rz

01-03-2015, 03:18 PM

Kryptoroxx

01-03-2015, 04:42 PM

Either way it is getting welded, just the difference being a pan that fits down into the hole and is flush with the roof, welded around the original opening or a flat sheet that is welded over the top of the hole.

Doing the flange is the right way to do it, but I feel sorta lazy.

Gotcha didn't quite read into that far enough. With as much effort as you've put into the truck thus far I would say doing the flange would be what you want to do. I have a feeling if you shortcut it once the paint is on and you look at it the panel will be what sticks out.

Seanz0rz

01-04-2015, 05:29 PM

So the roof is welded up!

I started by marking the panel in the center of the opening, so I could cut small flanges and fold them down.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7482/15999734610_68cb4c3dec_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qnQPFh)

I quickly found out that folding down a flange wasn't going to happen, so I went to plan B: cut a panel to fit in and weld it flush in the hole.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7513/16013406178_a5f6b63d6a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qp3TKY)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8573/16015076707_30a8a7189c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qpcsmc)

Some of it moved while being tacked and wasn't exactly flush. It's fine though.

All welded up:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7462/16175037426_a3d987d3c1_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qDki6C)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7538/15578476924_5b7259932b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pJBLrJ)

Fugly welds:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8637/15578476494_f78edb356c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pJBLjj)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8657/16200068552_b11c02bf44_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qFxzYL)

Some more of those pics everyone is asking for:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7578/16015075357_9f4904a3eb_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qpcrWV)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8673/15581067573_d3d23ed887_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pJR3y6)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7535/16013403758_99c3828003_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qp3T3f)

Bob98SR5

01-04-2015, 07:42 PM

Sean,

Make sure when you tack weld, start from one end and then tack the other side. In the case of that roof panel, i'd do all the opposite corners first (4), then the centers of all 4 sides, and then repeat. Tacking one side only will pull and shrink the metal on the side you're putting too much tacks on.

Forgive me if thats what you were doing already :P

Seanz0rz

01-04-2015, 07:54 PM

It's fully welded now, but yes, that's what I did.

Next weekend I'll grind it all down and seam seal it.

I need a new battery for the truck too, my current one will not even charge any more. Bought it in early 09, so it's time. I'm going bigger this time, even if I have to make a special bracket for it.

4x4mike

01-04-2015, 08:01 PM

Looks like it's really coming along. I assume you gutted the tracks and what not that went with the old glass?

What are the plans as far as a headliner? I know the sunroof and non-sunroof versions are quite different. I think there are two sunroof types as well.

A non sunroof model will gain you more head room in the cab and leave you more room to work with for your gear loft.

Seanz0rz

01-04-2015, 08:19 PM

Kryptoroxx

01-04-2015, 08:36 PM

All of the sunroof stuff was trashed. Just about everything was broken or bent beyond recognition.I saved the motor to be sold on eBay soon. The tray was a fiber reinforced plastic and cracked pretty bad. I might have pics of it.

I will be looking for a non sunroof headliner and hope it fits. I'll be adding some reinforcement to the roof too. Next weekend should be the last of the roof work, including that inner structure, and getting it all sealed up. Once I finish all the prep prior to the monstaliner, I can get a new windshield. Once that happens she's street legal again. It might be awhile until I do the monstaliner, waiting for the temps to rise a bit. We will see how it goes. Ideally by the end of Feb. The 4runner will be almost complete.
Just make your overhead console that big!...but seriously please don't. Looks good though. You going to have it all painted up by mojave?

If you don't have a favorite battery I run interstate and I haven't had to get a new battery out here in the desert since I got here. That's been since 2010 running in 120 deg weather and getting run every day.

DHC6twinotter

01-04-2015, 08:57 PM

Looks great, Sean! I'm amazed at the amount of work you have done with this. Looks really good!

YotaFun

01-08-2015, 02:46 PM

Looks awesome Sean!

How do you plan to support the roof more?

Also on battery, the new taco and 4Runners run a bigger battery, I believe its a 27 series battery instead of the 24 that normally is in the truck.

Seanz0rz

01-08-2015, 05:53 PM

I have some ideas I want to play with. Might cut up my old driver's door for some steel to reinforce it.

Kryptoroxx

01-08-2015, 08:07 PM

I have some ideas I want to play with. Might cut up my old driver's door for some steel to reinforce it.
I still have that half inch square too. You could incorporate your overhead console into roof reinforcement?

Reason I mention this is depending on how things go studying for the ham exam I might be headed down the hill to pick up a battery for my buddy, get the roof rack supplies from k and H metals, and if you wanted some of that scrap I have it would be possible for me to drop that off at your house. Considering I have yet to study for the exam (I just read about it) this may or may not happen but I wanted to toss it out there.

Seanz0rz

01-09-2015, 05:52 AM

Thanks for the offer! If it's not too inconvenient that would be awesome.

Kryptoroxx

01-09-2015, 10:38 AM

Thanks for the offer! If it's not too inconvenient that would be awesome.
If I end up coming down I will definitely drop by with the steel.

ttora4runner

01-11-2015, 08:48 AM

You made a lot of progress, looks good.

I don't think I could've done something like your doing.

Seanz0rz

01-11-2015, 10:53 AM

Thanks! It sure has been alot of work, but in many ways, the 4runner will be better than ever.

I got a new battery yesterday. Got a Group 65 (about twice the size of what I had, a 35R I believe) and will have to customize the bracket a little bit, but not bad. I did have to lengthen the cable to the fuse box just slightly. Soldered and covered in marine heatshrink.

I also fixed my mirror switch. Somehow one of the traces had broken, not allowing the mirrors to go left or right. Some more solder fixed that, but I will probably try to find a new one.

Electrical connectors are on their way, but it will be a few weeks until I get them, and then probably a few more weeks until I can start the rewire.

Today I will place my orders for body prep stuff, seam sealers and such.

troyboy162

01-11-2015, 06:58 PM

hey Sean I used Dynatron 550 seam sealer yesterday. Its cheap and stick upside down. You cant really smooth it out very well and it wont ever be sandable. Id say its real similar to RTV but it starts setting up in 5 minutes and cant be disturbed after that or is balls up and gets chunky.

Seanz0rz

01-11-2015, 07:14 PM

Thanks Troy. I actually found a different product to use. I will still be buying seam sealer for a few places. More on that maybe tomorrow.

Seanz0rz

01-12-2015, 07:21 PM

Ordered my body filler, 2k primer, And seam sealer. 200 for it, not bad, I guess. Went with a metal filler, suppose to be similar to lead for body work.

Seanz0rz

01-17-2015, 05:41 PM

So more progress. Got my body work stuff in the mail.

I ordered:

2 Quarts of this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0082LFAI6/ref=pe_825000_114657650_TE_item
The metal body filler is suppose to be more robust than the polyester stuff. Should be great for what I need it for. I might even use it to build up my deficient jambs a little bit.

2 Tubes of this: http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-seam-sealer-cartridge.html
Generic seam sealer to seal up some seams as well as the inner structure-outer skin interface on the roof.

3 Cans of this: http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-s-2k-aero-spray-epoxy-primer-gray.html
A bit expensive, but keeps me from having to purchase a gun and spray 2k primer the old fashion way. I only need it for a few spots.

Today I started pretty late but got the welds on the roof ground flat, plus sprayed primer where the stud gun had burned the paint away on the underside of the roof, and on the new roof panel to keep it from rusting. I will seam seal that joint from the inside, and I might use a rubber undercoating in the area to deal with noise, not sure.

I removed the compressor and massaged out the dent in the wheel well with a BFH. It worked pretty well. The right side might actually be easier than the left. I also removed the last 2 door panels in prep for interior welding on the roof structure tomorrow. Lexi helped me by cleaning up the last of the oily engine bay parts and motivating me to do something today!

I have made a few more decisions on how to proceed. I am pretty sick of dealing with those TYC headlight housings. I am going to try to find some 96-98 housings in good condition that I can swap the glass on. Any leads?

I will be reusing my old roof rack (from what is salvageable) and redoing the front of the rack. Might not happen by Mojave, but I expect to have it done before summer.

I am working on a list to capture all of the little details that cannot be ignored.

Kryptoroxx

01-17-2015, 08:45 PM

Shoot I would try and find some 99+ housings. They are the same and have the diamond reflectors. There was a set for sale on t4r.org but they're gone sadly. I would love to upgrade mine but I can't find OEM headlights anywhere.....and I would hate to see what the dealer wants.

ttora4runner

01-17-2015, 10:09 PM

I got a 99+ drivers side housing just laying around (has one broken tab through). That you can have for the price of shipping if you want it.

Bob98SR5

01-17-2015, 11:41 PM

Sean,

If you need additional auto paint/body work supplies, there's El Monte Auto Paint in Rancho Cucamonga. I've dealt with this cool guy named David. He gave me some awesome advice everytime I went in.

YotaFun

01-18-2015, 05:36 AM

Sean, what about the TYC do you hate?
I thought you had projectors in them now?

If its the alignment of it, try finding that 96-98 headlights but just use the mounting bracket and get your projected lenses mounted to that, that was originally my plan but I am going to be going a little backwards, I got a set of oem 99+ lights but the brackets are shot and the tabs on the lenses them self are shot, but I hope to be able to fix those with this:
http://autoplicity.com/3731364-3m-04247?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=CSE&utm_content=3731364NOFITMENT&utm_campaign=GSNOFITMENT&gclid=CjwKEAiA0O2lBRDOrPX4oJP3t2oSJACjpaHAWfYDOLc-6cASn1gg-JyB0MdBu_EWuyhICQWnGLkzwxoC2rvw_wcB

We use this stuff at work to fix bumper covers or just around the shop to mount something to the wall, I'm a good 220lbs now and there is a bracket on the wall that we use to hold our flags (long story) and it holds me up when I try to rip it off lol

Seanz0rz

01-18-2015, 09:39 AM

I have TYC 99+ housings with TRS projectors. My biggest problem with the TYC housings is the plastic. Both the reflector housing and the black mounting shell have broken in several places, and even if I repair them successfully, it will crack next to the repair. It's some of the worst quality plastic I have ever seen.

My plan is to pick up some 96-98 housings pretty cheap (since they are unwanted), and swap over my projectors and clear lenses.

Seanz0rz

01-18-2015, 05:18 PM

ttora I might be interested in that housing. My drivers side faired the worst.

Avy, I'll look into the glue. Pretty soon they will be more glue than housing!

paddlenbike

01-19-2015, 04:17 PM

I am reading decently good things about the drop-in LED bulbs and suspect over the next couple of years that they will serve as an adequate replacement for HID. The high-end cars have already made the switch, and even the economy car LED headlights in my LEAF are probably half-way inbetween the 4Runner's stock headlight output and the amazing output of the factory HIDs in our Acura. I'm holding out hope for them anyway. Something drop-in is appealing at this point.

YotaFun

01-19-2015, 05:25 PM

I have read good and bad things myself, the problem is the ballast on the back end of the bulb, in a lot of cases is a good 1 1/2-2" long, we have some room, but not alot behind are lamps.

Sean, my whole truck is glue at this point (besides the frame and drive train lol!

ttora4runner

01-19-2015, 07:41 PM

ttora I might be interested in that housing. My drivers side faired the worst.

Avy, I'll look into the glue. Pretty soon they will be more glue than housing!

Just let me know.

Seanz0rz

01-24-2015, 05:13 PM

Got a little bit of work done today.

Right rear quarter is "done":
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7449/16173277527_37ccc8f93f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qDbgWx)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/16173277457_32a7089a3b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qDbgVk)

Still a tiny bit lumpy, but I'm not worried about it. Some hammer taps and some body filler and it will be fine!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7420/16357407541_d3ca4ce9b3_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qVrZnX)

The D pillar on this side isn't as bad as the left side.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/16173276757_1e43a768dd_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qDbgHg)

The bumper took it pretty hard:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/16359158315_723ddd4b76_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qVAXPH)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7327/16333198016_f724cfab41_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qTiUJm)

I will probably have to cut the wing and straighten it on the press. I'll try the hammer first though.

I tried to drill the spot welds on the left D pillar to move it, but there seems to be much more than those spot welds holding on to it. I might try to split the difference with the body filler, we'll see.

I also spent a few minutes replacing my rear cargo door lock and adjusting the latch. MUCH better!

Got word that my electrical connectors came in and my kit is ready to pick up, so I will take care of that next week and can start rebuilding my electrical system.

Got "new" corner lights in the mail yesterday, and have a blue sea fuse block being delivered today. I also snagged a really damn good deal on a new magnaflow catalytic converter, so I will replace that soon as well. It was just about dead before the roll, and it is still smoking out the oil from the exhaust. I will examine the muffler at that time and see if it is in need of replacement.

I will be ordering the rest of painting stuff next pay check with a goal to paint the last 2 weeks of Feb.

Kryptoroxx

01-24-2015, 05:49 PM

Hey lookin good! I think after all is said and done you will be pleased with the results.

Kryptoroxx

01-26-2015, 10:18 AM

Hopefully you haven't put the interior back in as this might be beneficial for us to do since we are doing full length racks.

http://www.livingoverland.com/2012/02/reinforcing-roof.html?m=1

I just read it and it makes sense. Most painful thing to do is remove the headliner.

Seanz0rz

01-26-2015, 12:13 PM

On my to do list.

I'm actually looking into alternatives to the stock headliner.

paddlenbike

01-26-2015, 12:43 PM

On my to do list.

I'm actually looking into alternatives to the stock headliner.

Now is your chance to upgrade.

http://i23.tinypic.com/2rnh4wo.jpg

Yes, sorry I had to go there.

Seanz0rz

01-26-2015, 01:11 PM

It has been discussed.

Seanz0rz

01-31-2015, 01:17 PM

Right rear is all finished with metal work (except for the bumper, that will have to come later).

Sanded and ready for acetone:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8572/15790300624_58de2c6f3f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q4kqfu)

Found the body seam on the D pillar:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8607/15792736253_c395ef1f6a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q4xUh6)

Filler:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7367/16411006721_773b60e7f8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1bGxK)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7433/16412773935_36e49ed89f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1kKSX)
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8616/16226860567_0b4e9c0daa_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qHUUj4)

Filler seems just a bit harder to work with than a traditional Bondo type polyester filler. Hopefully I got enough hardener in the mix (that is always the hardest thing to figure out).

Last week, Lexi spent a couple of days attacking the rest of the paint with a Scotchbrite pad to knock down the clear coat in prep for the Monstaliner.

Kryptoroxx

01-31-2015, 05:36 PM

Body filler is a fickle thing. You have to mix enough to work an area but not too much as you will end up with a rough patch like pictured.

You can tell if you used too much hardener by the surface smoothness after it dries (convenient right?) Or if the surface does not totally dry. It's not the easiest stuff to work with but once you get the hang of it I prefer it for its bonding qualities.

Seanz0rz

01-31-2015, 05:50 PM

Yeah, I just over worked it. I had it pretty smooth but wanted it smoother, I made it worse.

Sanded that stuff down and threw on another coat to dry over night. It's actually coming out really good. I am so thankful Lexi is helping me sand, I couldn't do it without her.

Bob98SR5

01-31-2015, 09:28 PM

after trying my hand at body work, i appreciate more those who do it well for a living!

Kryptoroxx

02-01-2015, 06:55 AM

after trying my hand at body work, i appreciate more those who do it well for a living!
Ditto on that!! Filler is great but it always takes a batch or two for me to get it down again. Makes you appreciate what they charge you for doing a perfect job the first time.

Seanz0rz

02-01-2015, 09:07 AM

Completely agree! To me, body work has been the worst part of all of this. I think one more weekend of hammering, applying filler, sanding, etc. and it will be done. The roof is ready, the left side needs a little work before filler, hopefully I can get that done today or during the week.

It is really crunch time for me. 5 weekends left until she rolls for Mojave, and there is much to do. I know some things will not be done in time, but I would like to have a good vehicle to roll out there with. And I will!

CJM

02-01-2015, 12:01 PM

Aye, body work is a long and boring process imho. Bang out dents, glass if need be, fill, sand, fill, sand, etc.

I have over 2 hours of just sanding for a 6x6 section I replaced using some metal patchwork for drywall (bondo sells same thing but 3x as $), bondo kitty hair and bondo filler. I wanted it to turn out good and it shows since it looks damn nice. Friend thought I paid to have it done.

Sean, its coming along great! I admire your work ethic and commitment to getting it as damn near perfect as possible.

Seanz0rz

02-01-2015, 12:40 PM

Thanks! She will never be perfect, but no sense in doing this much work and half assing it!

Today I have come down with a bug, but working thru the fever and body aches. Last coat of filler went on about 30 mins ago, drilled the new fender for the snorkel, and sanding that in prep for regular paint in the "hidden" areas that will not get texture.

Kryptoroxx

02-01-2015, 01:11 PM

Seanz0rz

02-01-2015, 01:28 PM

Yeah, it's a perfect day for body work. Warm and dry, but not too much of either.

I think I might have the flu, no bueno. But ohwell, just keep working!

Seanz0rz

02-01-2015, 05:16 PM

Template for the snorkel:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8596/16422595512_21b9d65db0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r2d6uu)

I found some damage on the snorkel I missed before. It won't be a deal breaker but I will have to address it at some point. No picture of that.

While I worked on prepping the fender, Lexi sanded the rest of the filler, then another coat, and then more sanding. This is the final result. It looks great!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/16422595142_ce18bd3150_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r2d6o7)
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8645/16421772271_02c2bb84e5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r28SLF)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7340/15803487133_6e12200640_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q5v196)

Fender, all prepped and painted with Evergreen Pearl Metallic and clear coated:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8568/16236130960_79df75c3e8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qJJq5q)
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8616/15801031314_4ae2d55905_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q5hq7o)

I just shot the parts that may not get texture. It came out better than I thought! I would definitely use automotivetouchup again! The color is a perfect match to the jambs (but not necessarily the rest of the body, paint fades after 18 years).

One day after work I will hang the passenger fender. Everything is prepped for snorkel install but that won't happen until after Monstaliner. I will also turn the truck around again to get the driver's side finished. Now that I have most of my electrical parts in, I'll start working on wiring during the week and save the weekends for the big body work.

Everything is coming together pretty well, still much to do!

Kryptoroxx

02-01-2015, 07:36 PM

Hey that really does look good! Is that seriously a rattlecan?

Man I'm looking forward to seeing this thing come to life!

Let me know if you need the spray gun. It's sitting on the shelf and I'm pretty cheap or at least that's what my wife tells me lol.

Only thing you would really want to do for your driveway (if you choose to spray) is get one of those really big blue tarps and spray on a pretty still day. After about 2 hours you could drive/push it back into the garage with no negative effects.

Seanz0rz

02-01-2015, 07:49 PM

I might employ you for a day to spray it. I have no confidence in my abilities.

Spray can stuff came out great! Especially with so little prep (it is an area that just doesn't matter).

CJM

02-03-2015, 08:18 AM

The spray looks very good! Im pretty sure I went with the same people when I did my fender, I got the spray cans. The paint matches pretty dang close on my fender but you can tell. The spot I repaired on my bed I think was small enough I could blend it easier and the texture was rougher down there (IDK why?).

Your welcome btw. Like I said, takes a heck of alot of work. I glassed the damage to my tailgate, filled and primed it all up only for the gate to bend under load (me stepping on it while down) and everything to be a waste :( If I was gonna keep here I was actually going to use metal to reinforce it since you cant see about 90% of it b/c of the bed liner.

Seanz0rz

02-05-2015, 06:51 PM

Kryptoroxx

02-05-2015, 07:50 PM

Ordered the Monstaliner and a bunch of other stuff. Still trying to track down the pigment to color match, but I have a pretty good line on some.

Turned the truck around again so we can sand the other side.
Sorry my text was a little vague. Here is something sold by them on amazon. Contact the seller and ask about pigment with no binders. Should come out to about 90 bucks for 16oz.

2000-2013-13 BMW 354 Titanium Silver Metallic Professional Touch Up Paint Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G4S4H24/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_9Dd1ub0BXYF5Q

Seanz0rz

02-06-2015, 05:20 AM

I did and got a strange response to purchase a pint of unreduced paint. I'm a little confused.

Kryptoroxx

02-06-2015, 02:29 PM

I did and got a strange response to purchase a pint of unreduced paint. I'm a little confused.
Yeah they didn't give you the right stuff. I must have gotten the right guy the first time.

Not sure if the stealership could get you that tint or it would be super expensive.

Seanz0rz

02-06-2015, 02:50 PM

If I don't hear back soon I will shop around.

Seanz0rz

02-07-2015, 10:31 AM

Heard back, bit more expensive for my pigment than I was expecting, but at this point, I am just happy to be getting it.

Starting on the truck in a few minutes, got a late start today.

Kryptoroxx

02-07-2015, 01:58 PM

Heard back, bit more expensive for my pigment than I was expecting, but at this point, I am just happy to be getting it.

Starting on the truck in a few minutes, got a late start today.
Should have been about 90 bucks for 16 oz. 16oz is good for 2 gallons

Seanz0rz

02-07-2015, 02:55 PM

More like 160. I suspect 1, because they can; 2, it has pearl in it.

Getting the top and left quarter filled now. Man it's a ton of work!

Kryptoroxx

02-07-2015, 03:25 PM

Mine was only a metallic that's true. I hadn't thought about that. Your first point is correct as well.

Seanz0rz

02-07-2015, 05:17 PM

Made a bunch of progress filling the roof and left quarter panel. I think I won't have quite enough filler, the roof is taking more than I thought it would correcting a low spot. I will have to order another can and finish it off next weekend. Not ideal, but ohwell. I would have liked to paint next weekend, but it is probably better that I wait until the 21/22. I think I will probably paint it in the garage, but I will have to move some stuff to make it work.

Pictures will wait until tomorrow when there is a finish product to show.

Kryptoroxx

02-07-2015, 08:03 PM

Everything in good time. You're doing it right and doing a great job! Good weather is still kinda sketchy right now but I think it's going to get warmer soon.

It's been awesome up here the past few days. Did some measuring and cut two 7ft pieces of metal and tomorrow the drill and tap comes out.

YotaFun

02-10-2015, 05:42 PM

Looking good Sean, I am hoping I will have the motivation you have once I get my garage organized and the weather warms up, def considering this paint you guys are going to use now too.

Seanz0rz

02-14-2015, 07:10 PM

I didn't instantly fall in love with the paint, but the idea has really grown on me during this process. I think it is actually a great option for an offroad vehicle, especially with the ability to color match to a factory color.

Got a ton done today. Driver's D pillar is finished, passenger's fender is on, had to adjust the hood (it was pointing to the right), got the left fender painted up, got the fuel filler door painted, got the driver's door edges painted, got some more stuff done to the roof, and messed around with electrical stuff a bit.

This is going to be a photo dump kinda post. It is Valentine's Day and I owe it to my most awesome wife to spend some quality time with here that doesn't involve sanding.

The rear bumper is straighter:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7376/15913096663_8b009a1304_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qfbMez)

Peewee was "helping"
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/16507275996_e2da15c576_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r9G73Q)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7378/16531562621_a39fecd725_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rbQzBK)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/16532227962_7111e07052_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rbTZp9)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8654/15910708184_81538e3672_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qeYxdU)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7375/16347004009_2762150b84_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qUwELH)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8615/15913094173_59bb29c830_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qfbLuD)

There were some problems though. The passenger door to front fender fit is horrible.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8598/16345819350_e6044c5bc3_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qUqABy)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7434/16345819690_9464799ee8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qUqAHq)

I also got a pretty huge run in the clear coat on the driver's door frame. I will have to carefully sand it out tomorrow. SO MAD!!! Otherwise the painting came out great.

More pics in the album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/98550067@N07/sets/72157647861657292/

Kryptoroxx

02-14-2015, 07:18 PM

Ya know I just thought of this but it would add to your build considerably but did you think about going fiberglass with the fenders?

I think you've done an amazing job sean. I'm struggling just getting a roof rack mounted and you've rebuilt your entire 4runner. Props man.

troyboy162

02-14-2015, 08:46 PM

you are no longer allowed within 50 feet of my truck. I have no eye for details like you lol.

Seanz0rz

02-14-2015, 09:47 PM

Lol thanks guys.

Fiberglass fenders mean no snorkel. I'm also not crazy about the style of the 2 on the market.

Kryptoroxx

02-15-2015, 07:52 AM

Lol thanks guys.

Fiberglass fenders mean no snorkel. I'm also not crazy about the style of the 2 on the market.
I am really looking forward to seeing your truck man.

I haven't thought about the fenders much myself either but I see so many guys get them......and then never paint them so I wanted to toss it out there before the monstaliner.

Seanz0rz

02-15-2015, 06:17 PM

Left fender is on:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/16544280615_1c06bb9716_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rcXLev)

Got the roof sanded. This was the worst since the clear is coming off, everything that MIGHT come off needed to go.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7400/16543178572_d6e75e4d29_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rcS7CL)

The front of the roof is still very lumpy. But, I don't care anymore. There will be a roof rack on it anyway.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/16518256026_fc34009d4c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/raEo2G)

Started taping off for primer and then Monstaliner.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7327/16544279745_bde106393a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rcXKYv)

Here's where we stand on paint:
Pigment comes in Thursday.
I still have to prime. I was expecting to have that done today.
I am thinking that I will Dexter the garage this week and try to prime sometime after work maybe Wednesday. Friday will be spent doing the final prep for painting on Saturday, at worst Sunday. I still have to rent the compressor too.

and it might rain Saturday... bleh.

Kryptoroxx

02-15-2015, 07:25 PM

Rain would actually help the monstaliner.....provided you're not painting in the rain. The moisture will help it cure more quickly.

Seanz0rz

02-17-2015, 08:44 PM

Windshield gets installed Thursday morning. Thursday and Friday evenings will be spent finishing up the prep and prepping the garage for paint booth duty. Friday night I plan on priming, or Saturday morning worst case. The primer dries pretty quickly apparently, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Lots to do in a compressed time frame!

Seanz0rz

02-20-2015, 09:20 PM

Windshield was installed on Thursday, 4Runner was pushed into the garage tonight after much prep work. Still getting everything taped off, and I still have to prime and do more prep work. So tired...

Kryptoroxx

02-21-2015, 06:32 AM

Out of all prepping I think taping is the hardest. Very tedious and time consuming. Plus there is simply no good comfy position to do it in.

Very excited still for ya. This is a big weekend for the 4runner.

Seanz0rz

02-21-2015, 06:42 AM

Got the primer shot last night about 11 pm. Just got up and it looks pretty moist outside, so I will have to check on the primer and hope it cured out. Good stuff that primer...

Seanz0rz

02-21-2015, 08:44 AM

It was very moist last night, and it basically rained. No bueno.

Primer appears to have cured out OK over night. It is about 55 degrees and very humid right now, so I will have to wait until probably 11 or 12 to spray paint. In the mean time I will finish up all of the prep work.

Here are some pictures up to this point:

Preparing to release my Dark Passenger:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7427/16576415316_e825d9ff66_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rfNsL5)

This morning:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/16601216761_f771acb467_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rhZznc)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7457/16415364740_bf7e6de04f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1z331)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/16415185508_87f308821b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1y7KN)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8608/16416546729_3e0df2086d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1F6p8)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/16415363280_72d35bbfbb_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r1z2AQ)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8564/15982614713_68f6234aba_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qmk5wD)

Kryptoroxx

02-21-2015, 09:19 AM

Man this is gonna look sweet! The bodywork is well done from what the pictures say. Very smooth. Sorry to hear about the primer though. I would be glad to have rain except for the holes in my roof currently lol.

Seanz0rz

02-21-2015, 09:25 AM

I am just hoping it is not too humid and cold today to spray. I was not expecting this weather at all. Maybe by noon it will be warmer.

Thanks! I am happy with how the body came out. The roof is lumpy still but it is decent enough to live with. There are lots of irregularities in the filler that would completely ruin a regular paint job. The texture should help with these.

Kryptoroxx

02-21-2015, 09:52 AM

I'm thinking about doing the top rack in monstaliner but I don't have anything else to paint lol.

Seanz0rz

02-21-2015, 11:33 AM

Lol. Prep is done. Garage (and truck) warmed up a bit with the heater. Spray around noon. Not too bad.

Seanz0rz

02-21-2015, 02:48 PM

First coat is on. Came out really nice. I will bump up the pressure for the second coat. It is a little smooth for my liking.

Seanz0rz

02-21-2015, 05:26 PM

Kryptoroxx

02-21-2015, 06:42 PM

Finding the right pressure and distance is a learning curve for sure. This stuff is pretty forgiving though. Second coat is on, and I will go out in a few mins to do some touch ups real quick. That will be the end of it.

First coat is on. Came out really nice. I will bump up the pressure for the second coat. It is a little smooth for my liking.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/21/25fe7e74ce731eb8e17fa8631b7588a9.jpg

The right pressure certainly makes a difference but I am glad that you found it easier than it sounded.

troyboy162

02-21-2015, 06:45 PM

I agree. Thats pretty messed up to give a blow by blow of these final steps and not post pictures. This is 2015 Sean, we are civilized now!

Seanz0rz

02-21-2015, 10:15 PM

Pics are on FB. Post here tomorrow. I'm beat.

Seanz0rz

02-22-2015, 09:33 AM

Mixing table:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8664/16612677251_3fb82ee84f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rj1jaR)

First Coat pics:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8580/16613190722_37fbd8a605_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rj3WNN)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8572/16613814995_a5127d20d4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rj79o8)

After the second coat (Lexi took these pics):

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/16426663808_866f9d38b4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r2yWRw)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8586/16613856915_3fbafaee1b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rj7mQT)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8679/16587894236_1a86a8b036_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rgPi3u)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8565/16428053999_29d9b24393_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/r2G57k)

Morning After:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8601/16613189282_28ab731163_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rj3WnY)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8563/16406526347_10e335edf2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qZMJFV)

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8641/15994053993_97c629c2e6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qnkH2B)

It's done!!! I can't believe it's done but it is. I couldn't have done any of this without Lexi's help and support. Best wife ever!

I will post more about my experience later. It was fun and some of the hardest work I have done to the truck.