Big Bear August 18, 2007

[freejake3]

I'd like to start a wheelin trip thread for the above date. I had a blast on last year's run and thought that Lance did an awesome job of organizing the runs. I am not geared that way (organizationally speaking) but thought we could at least begin some sort of plan for that weekend.

Glad I found you guys - kinda out of the loop and all.

Cangrats on the new site.

[Marc P]

Cool Andy...glad you made it over here.

The date is on the calender!

[wifesaysimadumbass]

if i can get a new trailer for my bday im in

[Peter]

If I've got the day off and I can get the 4runner back up to specs I'll be there too!

[Good Times]

just a quick fyi, this weekend is the same weekend as the june lake event. :)

i'd love to do a bb but i highly doubt i'll have anything ready and running for any events this year so if i'll be riding shotgun on many of the upcoming events for some time :D

[freejake3]

just a quick fyi, this weekend is the same weekend as the june lake event.

Point taken. This is another option for those that don't want to make the drive up there.

[slosurfer]

If I am not able to make it to June Lake, I may be able to sneak this trip in.

[ecchamberlin]

Will have to see how things go as we get closer. Really want to head out with the gang.

Andy that front bumper is just sick! Congrats on the new baby. Hope mom and baby are well.

[freejake3]

That's why I started this so early. The more time folks have will hopefully bring everyone out.

If you like the bumper, check out the link to some additional armour.
http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/affinis/skids/

Thanks for the good wishes to the family.

[RobT2K]

Those both look great Andy, how long did the front bumper take? Was it very difficult?
I think that is one of the next things I need, a good front bumper.

As far as this run I think I'm out, since I'll be working that weekend.
If it changes to the weekend before or after let me know.

[ecchamberlin]

Awesome to see you here Rob. It is a real improvement from what we had.

Nice belly skid Andy. You are really fabbin up some cool swag.

[freejake3]

"...how long did the front bumper take? Was it very difficult?

Thanks Rob...it took me a good month or so. Never could get a full day in at any one point. Taking that long did give me plenty of time to think about form/function. I plan on dropping a winch in the front at some point. The hardest part was getting all the angles figured out on the round tube.

[blacksheep]

I plan on going with you guys and TTORA. Count me in.

[blacksheep]

TTORA main board has no thread for big bear, so I started on. SoCal TTORA Chapter has Aug 24-26 - Big Bear??? I thought we were all on the same page and date like last year. What up with that?

[Marc P]

I would rather go with a small group and run more trails.

[blacksheep]

True. Im with u guys.

[Marc P]

I want to be sure we camp at a place that allows fires...here are a couple of my ideas

http://www.recreation.gov/campgroundDetails.do?topTabIndex=CampingSpot&agency=NRRS&parkId=3960

http://www.recreation.gov/campgroundDetails.do?topTabIndex=CampingSpot&agency=NRRS&parkId=275

[Seanz0rz]

im not sure if any fires are being allowed on the mountain due to the 3-4 inches of rain we got down in the valley, the heat, low humidity, and winds.

[ecchamberlin]

TTORA is great but the groups get so frickin big. I am up for what ever. Last year the Rangers said no way because it got so big. Maybe just the normal crowd and some others and not make a huge run of it is the way to keep the Rangers off our backs.

[freejake3]

I want to be sure we camp at a place that allows fires.

Amen to that brother. After last year there's no way I'm not making a fire. Those Limoronas only keep you so warm.

I'll check into availability at those two locations. We can always hit a backcountry spot that is not very accessible to the Rangers as well. Not that I recommend that by any means.

We're just about a month away. Does anyone want to be Trail Boss? I've not wheeled enought in BB to lead and would sure hate to get the lot of us off trail.

I'm thinking the normal PotLuck dinner on Saturday - any problems with that?

Now - to try and get my rear bumper fabbed in time for John Bull.

[blacksheep]

Im cool with a small group. I was just wondering if they where going to be out there. I put up a post on the board just to see, but as far as I can tell, TTORA is going the following weekend. Pot Luck, Nice, I know what my wife will be making.

[BruceTS]

dang you guys are makin it hard for me to choose, I usually go up with the TTORA group......hmmm

At least I have a month to decide

[Seanz0rz]

providing i can iron out that little transmission issue and get some sliders welded on and my gps in working order by then, ill be there!

does anyone want to weld up sliders and weld them to my vehicle? not for free of course.

and im down for potluck. im sure i can con mom into making her super awesome mac and cheese, no kraft krap here.

[ecchamberlin]

Yes a fire would be nice. I am thinking about getting a porta pit fire enclosure. Still will not help if it is in a no fires allowed season though.

Pot Luck! Hell yes. Do we want to put a theme to it (Mexican...) or just bring something?

[freejake3]

Yeah - Let's do the Mexico cuisine. If it ain't broke.........

As for accomodations Tent Peg is full but I did find this

https://www.reserveamerica.com/updateShoppingCartItem.do

Unfortunately I can't swing the bulk amount right now but would surely pitch in when the time comes. Even 8 people would split the cost to $20 a person. Anyone willing to buck up? The sooner we do this the better. Otherwise we'll just backcountry camp and layer-up.

[Marc P]

When I was in the Green Valley Lake area over Memorial Day we had a campsite at the GVL Campground. It was very nice...kinda small and quiet.

[freejake3]

I'll check it for availability.

Not looking good.

http://www.recreation.gov/campsiteCalendar.do?sitepage=true&page=calendar&agency=NRRS&parkId=275&&startIdx=0

Recreation.Gov says there's availability at Hanna Flat and Crab Flats. Hanna is $22 per night while Crab Flat is $16. Crab FLat looks to be a little more our style in terms of privacy. I'll check the fire restrictions manana.

[ecchamberlin]

Andy I am willing to put $20 in the pot if it makes it easier for yah. Just say the word brother.

[Marc P]

I guess we should reserve a couple sites at Crab Flats or Hanna Flats. I like the idea of Crab Flats because it is very close to Holcomb Creek and Dishpan Springs....Hanna Flats is closer to John Bull

I dont have a current account with ReserveAmerica...

[Marc P]

After reading the posts on Blacksheeps thread on TTORA, I am glad we are doing our own thing the weekend before :flipoff:

[freejake3]

Unless we are desperate to group camp I say we do Crab Flats as well. It's not like we're covering a huge area that weekend anyway so proximity is not an issue. Showers - if the lady's require it - can be had at the Serrano Campground which is just to the west of the DIscovery Center on the North Shore of BB Lake.

Registering with Recreation.gov takes 2 minutes.

Here's some info on the campground:
http://www.recreation.gov/nrrs/Crab_Flats/Campground/r/campgroundDetails.do?page=details&agency=NRRS&parkId=790

Most of these sites, except to #20, are available now:
http://www.recreation.gov/nrrs/Crab_Flats/Available_Campsites/r/campsiteCalendar.do?page=calendar&agency=NRRS&parkId=790
http://www.recreation.gov/nrrs/Crab_Flats/Campsite_Map/r/campgroundMap.do?camparea=3436&agency=NRRS&parkId=790

If we all jump on this northern camping area we could stay together in one area. I'll be making my reservation tomorrow after I hear from you guys regarding yeah or neah on Crab Flats.

[Marc P]

Sounds good Andy...looking at the sites, maybe go for 10 and 12(shade and bathrooms)?? There is a 2 vehicle max per site, but 8 people..I wonder how strict they are with a couple extra trucks?

[ecchamberlin]

I just reserved site # 13 across from the bathroom. I registered with the popup and all said and done it is $41 for the weekend.

http://www.recreation.gov/nrrs/Crab_Flats/Crab_Flats_Campground/Campsite_Map/r/campgroundMap.do?camparea=3435&selectedSiteRb=88523&agency=NRRS&parkId=790

[freejake3]

Sweeeeet. I just reserved #16. Let's do this. We'll get a potluck list going later on as well as a complete attendee list. So Marc - you don't mind leading us do you? Your good like that.

[blacksheep]

Nice, I just reserved #17 incase im too loud. My wife will be making Posole. It looks like this. I will have 2 trucks, me and my brother in law. He just bought an 03 trd 4x4 yesterday. Whoohooo.

http://www.onmyplate.org/images/posole_rojo.jpg

Very good warm mexican stew for the cold nights and mornings.

[blacksheep]

I got mine for Aug 17th-20th. Is everyone leaving on the 20th? If not, I might need to change it.

[freejake3]

I know I'm planning to leave on the 19th (Sunday) after our morning run.

Speaking of runs - has anyone ever run Holcomb Cr. the opposite way?

[Marc P]

I know I'm planning to leave on the 19th (Sunday) after our morning run.

Speaking of runs - has anyone ever run Holcomb Cr. the opposite way?


Opposite way?? I ran it from west to east last time out...what is the regular way??

[freejake3]

Did you get your camping spot?

I just assumed (we all know what happens when you do that right?) it was normaly run E - W. Apparently not. Just another reason why you need to step up to the plate for the lead position. All in favor say Marc.

[Marc P]

I will probably just share Eric's site...

I always lead...but thats cool

Last run up there we ran w-e then took a shortcut to John Bull

[Seanz0rz]

im still not sure as to my status of being able to go. i might go abuse my truck on cleghorn and see if the transmission is stout enough to survive big bear.

how late do you think i can make reservations? or can i crash one of your sites and pay half?

[BruceTS]

I've ran Holcomb both directions

[ecchamberlin]

I say Marc for lead. HA HA!

Since we are there for the entire weekend if we do Gold Mtn if would be glad to lead that if Marc needs a break.

I am in the same position as last year at this time. If I am selected for E7/Chief, then I will be doing lots of training and not able to attend. So if I do, although it is a long shot, Marc can just take my campsite entirely and let someone else crash in on it as the second vehicle. I won't know until last week in July or the first week of Aug.

As it is Marc is the second vehicle in spot 13.

[freejake3]

Hopefully you can make it, although the upgrade will surely mean mo' cash.

As of right now there are no fires allowed so pack accordingly.

[blacksheep]

Eric, I hope you are able to attend. So can we have fires at the park or not?

[freejake3]

As of right now there are no fires allowed so pack accordingly.

[ecchamberlin]

No fires.

[Marc P]

NO FIRES AGAIN :argue: :chair: :spank: :gay: :flipoff:

Can we bring a portable BBQ and sit around it??

[freejake3]

I'll check on that. I don't see why that would be a problem.

[blacksheep]

Can't Wait. Anyone want to have a wrench-a-thon before we leave to finish up some small projects? I might go down to Chula Vista tomm. to the junk yards to find some small parts. Anyone need anything or want to go?

[Seanz0rz]

i need someone to weld sliders on!

[blacksheep]

If I had a welder, I would.

[Marc P]

Who wants to help put in my e-locker?? J/K...that is a big job, and it wont happen before BB.

Sean--call Bruce or some other local fabricator up near you.....yellow pages!!

[Seanz0rz]

ill get in contact with bruce. ill be in the sd area the weekend of the 4th

i just want someone i can trust, not just some random out of the phone book. i could always take it to 4west.

[freejake3]

Call Josh @ Tubing Works (619-438-1160) if you don't get it done before the 4th. Here's what you'll get if you have him do it:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/affinis/sliders/PA230085a.jpg

I just farmed out my rear bumper to have a receiver hitch and two recovery points machined into it. Also got the frame-rail re-inforcement plates cut and ready to weld (Tacoma owners will be able to relate). Here comes BB.

[blacksheep]

ill get in contact with bruce. ill be in the sd area the weekend of the 4th

i just want someone i can trust, not just some random out of the phone book. i could always take it to 4west.

If your going to be in the SD area, I had The Truck Stop (www.sdtruckshop.com) put them on. Very good welds and tested. A little pricy to put on, but when you see the rigs he is working on, there trophy trucks for Baja. Might have to schedule a date and to get it done, so seing a local club memeber on here might be able to it faster and for less money.

I have only used SDTRUCKSHOP so far, and I am sure there are plenty of others.

Here is what I had them put on.
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64703

[BruceTS]

Just take it to Demello Offroad, he's in Corona now.....

[Seanz0rz]

thank you bruce.

im awaiting shipping quotes from stubbs, he seems to have exactly what i want.

[blacksheep]

Big Bear Wrench-A-Thon has begun. :)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e12/blacksheep312/work.jpg

[Seanz0rz]

mine starts Thursday, but thats just so i can hit cleghorn this weekend

[freejake3]

Well, I don't who the part-time sucker I talked to previously regarding fires
in Big Bear (someone at the Big BEar Ranger Station) because they were wrong.

I spoke with a ranger in the Lake Arrowhead District and she said FIRES ARE ALLOWED in the campgrounds but to check in weekly prior to coming up. So I'll keep in touch as we get closer but as of right now WE CAN HAVE FIRES IN THE CAMPGROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEE HAW.

Mike - what are doing to your front axle?

[blacksheep]

The Outer Yukon Cromoly 4340 35 spline axle shafts are always too long, and need to be cut down to the snap ring. This prevents the out Warn hubs from loocking in while driving. It's been annoying me for almost 2 years now. Finally took them out and to a shop. :)

[Marc P]

:camping:

[ecchamberlin]

Camp Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome.

[slosurfer]

You SD guys and your campfire :gay: :flipoff:










Don't worry there will be a nice big bonfire at Pismo just for you guys. :smokin:

[blacksheep]

I like my campfire too :flipoff:

[wifesaysimadumbass]

i got site 18!!!!!! i will probably be renting a trailer so hopefully i will fit!!!!

[freejake3]

You got 45' to work with brother. Should be good.

[blacksheep]

Dam, what are you renting, I know you had the camper on the dodge, what now? PICS!!!!

[Marc P]

His daddy took the trailer he was using for fartruk.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

45' where are you guys finding this info?

[freejake3]

Here's the web page and info on site 18.

http://www.recreation.gov/nrrs/Crab_Flats/Campsite/r/campsiteDetails.do?siteId=131180&agency=NRRS&parkId=790

Site Details
Site Reserve Type:Site Specific
Site Type:Fam Standard Single
Check-in:2:00 pm
Check-out:1:00 pm
Stay Type:Overnight
# of People:(min: 1, max: 8)
Max. # of Vehicle:2
Max. Vehicle Length:45
Driveway Surface:Gravel
Driveway Entry:Back-In
Shade:N

[wifesaysimadumbass]

oh cool just didn't look that far into the site i guess

[Seanz0rz]

they are now allowing NO fires on the mountain, except for propane stoves, with permit only.

[freejake3]

Who'd you talk to....this is getting freakin' annoying. Can anyone give us the true skinny. Like I posted earlier, I'll still call the week we leave to confirm one way or another.

[ecchamberlin]

Andy
I think we should just plan on not being able to have a fire. The limitations can change overight so we shouldn't worry about it until that week. We'll have a good time reguardless.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

no fires!!!! i hate that about big bear but oh well, just bring some extra beer.... last time i was up there visiting my dad it was hot as hell during the day and just barely got cool in the evening but, i'm still bringing my big ass jacket because you never know.... i'm still thoroughly convinced that if Evan from Northridge Toyota didn't give me a couple of t shirts i would have froze to death (thanks again Evan) no that was not a plug!!!

[freejake3]

Andy
I think we should just plan on not being able to have a fire. The limitations can change overight so we shouldn't worry about it until that week. We'll have a good time reguardless.



I hear ya'. It's all about the wheelin' anyway.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

hey andy word on the street is the andy skunkworks has been working on a new rear bumper will it be done in time for big bear?

[freejake3]

I'm hoping so.....check the thread in the Fab folder for what I've done so far. This weekend I'll be hacking the bed behind the rear tire for the wrap-around. Time is ticking though. Worst case is no paint before BB.

[Marc P]

I start my new job on Aug 6th...so I will be going up Friday night now.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

marine max?

[Phalanx]

Just reserved site #12, how early is everyone getting up there on friday?

[freejake3]

I got the day off and was hopng to leave around 12ish. Even though we thought we left in enough time last year we still hit traffic. Not taking any chances this year. Hopefully we can caravan with a group..........

[blacksheep]

I have friday off and want to leave by no later then 10PM.

[Phalanx]

I get off work at 2:30, I'll try to leave asap.

[ecchamberlin]

I may be on the late side. I have asked for lots of time off lately so I will probably leave Santee around 2pm. Should still have some day light to set up camp and enjoy a cold one or two or three....with the fellas. Looking forward to this!

[freejake3]

Here's how we're looking on the campsites. People need to take 14/15 so we can "corner the market". Almost time to get the potluck dinner organized too. Mikey - do you have the hook-up for the carne? Only 3 weeks...........

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/affinis/ove/Untitled-1.jpg

[Seanz0rz]

im confused. they show trailers, do i have to have a trailer to possess the spot?

regardless if i get sliders/stumbling issue fixed, im going up. im so sick of working constantly, i need to have some fun, and i need to meet some of you people in person. even if i dont run all the trails with you guys, the weekend away will be nice.

so a recap: which campsite, which nights (i dont have school that friday or monday, so im good for the entire stay, i just dont want to reserve time that i shouldnt be there.

[Marc P]

Yep...Marinemax

I will probably be up there late. Depends on what time I get off....you old guys will probably be passed out.

[Phalanx]

Here's how we're looking on the campsites. People need to take 14/15 so we can "corner the market". Almost time to get the potluck dinner organized too. Mikey - do you have the hook-up for the carne? Only 3 weeks...........

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/affinis/ove/Untitled-1.jpg


Looks like 12 and up are already reserved for Friday night. 1-10 are open

[blacksheep]

Does anyone want to leave by 10AM on Firday? So far its me and my brother in law if he gets the time off aproved from work.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

i can probably bail by 10am friday i will be taking the day off and i am buying a new trailer this week so no renting yeah!!!

[toyopnoy]

Any room for me in one of you guys's spots?!? I'm there...i'll split the fee with whomever I share with. Haven't been wheeling in a while been busy with work. Definately will have this weekend off though...

[Seanz0rz]

toyopnoy, (pat right?) want to share a spot?

again, what spot should i reserve?

[ecchamberlin]

Hey Pat. Long time no see here.

Hope you can make it out.

[Seanz0rz]

im grabbing 10 for friday night, saturday night, and sunday night, is that correct?

[ecchamberlin]

I think most of us are leaving Sunday but if you can stay and hang out that is up to you Sean. I would if I could!

[blacksheep]

Ok Mikey, just let me know if you are a for sure go at 10AM and let me know.

[Seanz0rz]

booked site 10 for friday night and saturday night.

[freejake3]

Sounds good.

Pat - looking forward to wheelin' with you. Been welding lately?

[Seanz0rz]

pat welds? hey pat, want to make some money? :D

[toyopnoy]

Man Andy I wish I was. So busy with school and my other toy(GSX-R600) I haven't welded jack haha. Been so busy with the new job to, hard to find to time to tinker with the truck. Can't wait to get out there and cause some trouble though. I'll share with you, Sean if you don't mind. When do you plan on leaving?

[Seanz0rz]

ill be leaving my house probably noonish or later, seeing as check in time is 2. i am only about an hour away from the site.

[slosurfer]

im confused. they show trailers, do i have to have a trailer to possess the spot?


You don't need a trailer, it just means that it has a bigger parking area for a trailer.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

mike, i will make it a point to do a 10 am departure

[freejake3]

Let's talk food boys. Mikey - do you still have the carne hook-up?

[blacksheep]

Sounds good to me. Lets just plan on leaving together sometime in the AM, if you need some more time, just call me. But would love to be on the road by 11AM. The traffic is horrible up around LA.

My wife will be making her famous Posole. (Pozole (from Spanish pozole, from Nahuatl potzolli) is a traditional pre-Columbian soup or stew made from dried lime-treated maize kernels with pork (or other meat), chili, and other seasonings and garnish (lettuce, oregano, cilantro, avocado, radish, etc.)

So we are contributing to the Cook out. :)

[wifesaysimadumbass]

carne yep sure can

[freejake3]

I'll bring the fresh tortillas (enough this time), custom salsa, and refried beans.

Marc - I'm assuming you'll be bringing enough of that kick-a$$ 7-layer for the boys.

[Seanz0rz]

i can bring rice (easy to reheat on the engine or a camp stove)

also, anything else you need, just let me know and ill bring it.

[ecchamberlin]

Still no word on advancement results so....???????????

If I can come out and play I will get whatever is still needed or better yet wanted.

And you guys can give me hell about my Mike's Hard lemonade... LOL

[freejake3]

And you guys can give me hell about my Mike's Hard lemonade... LOL


I hate to say I like Mike's too. It's all about variety.

Let's get some thoughts on Saturday's run and Sunday as well. Any preferences?????????? I'm up for whatever.

[Seanz0rz]

hopefully something i can run with open diffs and no sliders!

[wifesaysimadumbass]

we can split up and one group do hard stuff and one group go a little easier

[Marc P]

I want to run John Bull and Dishpan Springs....I am leading, so guess what we are running??

If someone else wants to lead an easier run, Gold Mtn is fun backwards.

[Seanz0rz]

yay for the kiddie trails!!!

honestly, im just fricken happy to get out of the valley for a few days.

i can also ride along if someone's got space and be the official camera man, between me and my buddy who is likely coming along, we can handle most picture needs.

[ecchamberlin]

what was the run that Ryan went on while we did John Bull last year? He said it was not hard at all just really fun and actually had some quicker sections. That would be cool and Sean there could do that also. Maybe a Sat afternooner cool down run?

[Marc P]

That run started off at the same place John Bull did. I will look in my book tomorrow to see if it is listed.

Maybe Sean can sit with Gabe.

[slosurfer]

what was the run that Ryan went on while we did John Bull last year? He said it was not hard at all just really fun and actually had some quicker sections. That would be cool and Sean there could do that also. Maybe a Sat afternooner cool down run?


That was a fun short little easy run. I did it in 2wd, ends in a nice view but it is really short. Just an FYI

[ecchamberlin]

Chris that sound perfect for a evening run after a main run.

Yeah since you don't have to work or anything Marc, maybe you could take a moment out of your busy day to look it up please. LOL

Just kidding. YOu are our wierd vehicle spotterer guy. Mikey is the one that has to go back to work soon.

[freejake3]

Those trails sound good to me too. It may require some ingenious spotting to get me through but that's the fun of it.

That area northeast of John Bull was my second option for some back-country camping if the campgrounds were full. There looks to be some killer views at trails end.

Since we're right there at Dishpan we could run that one on Sat. morning and the go from there. Any interest in Holcomb Creek? How long does that one take to complete with the amount of vehicles we have?

[blacksheep]

Im up for what ever hard runs you guys want to run. I can always give a tug if someone needs :)

[Seanz0rz]

any one want to contribute to the "Seanz0rz needs sliders" fund? im lookin at about 400 installed.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

picked up my new trailer yesterday.... but now i'm not sure if i can leave friday morning stay tuned on that one

[wifesaysimadumbass]

so whats the head count on people so i know how much carne asada to get and also does anyone not want carne asada..... i will bring meat but everyone else will have to pitch in to get all the other stuff

[Seanz0rz]

me plus 1.

ill bring beans, rice, chips and salsa. ill also have some plates and such, but i recommend you bring your own stuff.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

no freakin limoronas this time !!!! those things are dangerous!!!

[blacksheep]

Like I said before, my wife is cooking, so i will bring bowls and spoons ect.

[freejake3]

Mikey...........I think we're talking at least 12 so far
(beside you and yours).

Food

Mike +1 S.American cuisine
Andy +1 (child) Tortillas, Beans, Salsa
EC +1 (child)
Marc +1 (child) 7-Layer (Z-Bomb)
Sean +1 Chips, Salsa, Beans
Josh +?
Mikey and Familia Carne Asada

Anybody I'm forgetting chime in. We need someone to bring cheese. What else.........

[Marc P]

Makenna is not coming this time...she will be in AZ with her Grandparents...so I am :king: :chill: :smokin: :screwy: :flipoff:

[Seanz0rz]

whos bringing beer? i cant for reasons i dont care to divuldge, but will pay if someone picks some up for me. hahahahahaha.

half joking... half...

and marc, youre crazy.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

since your location says cal poly pomona i would probably guess your in the 21 and under crowd.... no worries i wont tell your mom
http://www.bible.ca/marriage/nagging-wife-curlers.gif

[Marc P]

Sean can share Alex and Curran's Kool Aid :thumbup:

[ecchamberlin]

So I am positively coming out to play. Not the greatest of news about advancement results but hey I get to hang out with my buds and have a good time. Life is short so I will be living it well!!!!

Sorry I have not stepped up to take on some of the food but let me know and I will take on whatever is needed. I don't see cheese on the list so that is on my list. I can bring some beverages.

[Phalanx]

I can bring cheese, guac, anything else? A couple friends of mine from Pasadena will be riding along with me for the trip.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

my dad might actually be rolling with me hahahaha you guys might be in for some real entertainment

[freejake3]

Updated: Food

Mike +1 S.American cuisine
Andy +1 (child) Tortillas, Beans, Salsa
EC +1 (child) Cheese
Marc 7-Layer (Z-Bomb)
Sean +1 Chips, Salsa, Beans
Josh +2 Guac / Cheese
Mikey and Familia Carne Asada

[blacksheep]

My wifes Pozole is extremely good especially on the cold mornings. We are making enough for everyone. So I will be eating that for the 2 mornings, and prolly some in the evening. I will also bring Chips, Limes, Beer, Plastic Bowls, Spoons. Anyone bringing there dog? I want to bring mine, but she does not like the Rock Crawling any more. She gets sick now. But Im not sure about leaving at camp. Any Ideas?

Mikey, or anyone else leaving with me around 10AM on friday?

[freejake3]

I'm leaving my dogs at the beach. I plan on leaving OB around 11:30/12.

[Matt]

Hey all!

This is "Darx" from Yotatech. I am moving out of state in a few weeks and would love to get back up to Big Bear one more time. I sold the Taco and picked up an FJ a while back for something different. It's not really offload worthy yet but will be lifted on Wednesday with some new DR junk I got. If I can make it, it's doubtful but if I put on my sad face for work maybe someone will cover for me, I'd love to meet you guys up there and ride along with someone.

If that's cool let me know. I'll try and swindle work for the time off even though I'm down to my last two weeks here on the job.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

hey darx what up long time no see..... you should definately try to make it i think marc has some extra seats i'm filled up with kids

[ecchamberlin]

Matt
Good to hear from you. "from YT" already sounds strange. LOL

I will have a open front seat with my son in his car seat in the back if you want to ride along. Would be great to have you with us.

[DEATHRUNNER]

I think I might just come visit. How much do those camping spots run? I wonder if I'm to late to snag one.

[Seanz0rz]

i think it was 40 for the two nights.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

is everyone sharing a site see if you can jump in with someone and split it

[Phalanx]

Between all the campsites I'm sure we have more than enough spots to accommodate any extra cars and people.

[DEATHRUNNER]

I think I'm going to arrive friday night, hit the run and then bail after the run. We're having a party on saturday for my Grandfather who just had his 3rd circumcision.

So, basically I will only need a place to stay on firday night. I'm down to split friday if anyone has room for a sexy 1st gen.

Since the fire is out of the question, I'd suggest that everyone bring thier softest flannel jackets and sleepy pants. We should have our 3rd annual Yotatech/Ultimateyota Snugglefest. No more funny stuff this year, MARC!

[freejake3]

Oh it's so on!!!!!!!

[Marc P]

no cuddling with me Seth :gay:

[BruceTS]

You bringing those two babes in your avatar along for support?

I won't know where I'm gonna go til the end of the week.... Undecided on June Lake or BB. Right now I'm leaning towards June Lake, since I can go to BB the following weekend with TTORA.....

[blacksheep]

We're having a party on saturday for my Grandfather who just had his 3rd circumcision.

WTF??? Am I reading this correctly?

[Seanz0rz]

haha i was waiting to see how long it would take for someone to notice that! hahaha!

yea, what gives?

[wifesaysimadumbass]

seth is just weird he's probably going just to look at it!!!!

[ecchamberlin]

3rd try is the charm for him hopefully! LOL

So I just looked up some weather for BB for this coming week and weekend.

http://weather.msn.com/tenday.aspx?wealocations=wc:USCA0094

Looks like the usual stuff for this time of year. Possible rain this week and then a perfect weekend. Cool night temps of 52F so like Seth said dress warm so we can huddle around the lanterns again this year.

Okay that was not funny or cool!

[Seanz0rz]

dress warm? 52? 52 is wonderful weather, not cold at all!!! you people have been living near the beach too long!

[DEATHRUNNER]

haha i was waiting to see how long it would take for someone to notice that! hahaha!

yea, what gives?




I'd post pics, but I feel that it might be inappropriate.

[Troyoda]

hey guys looks like CalMiniTruck and the gang are coming up there this weekend
as well
NoWhiteFenders is coming as well :D

pirate4x4 has a run planned that weekend too

[Seanz0rz]

oh man, its going to be crazy! thats alot of people.

still enjoyable.

i worked all weekend on getting camping gear that hasnt been used in about 10 years in working order again. the lantern died on me so i had to buy a new one, but the stove worked awesome.

i will be up there about 3pm on friday. i have some campsite repairs to the truck planned, stuff ive been meaning to do and didnt get around to this weekend.

can we get an updated schedual of whats going on what days? id like to be able to kind of plan ahead and know what to expect, when i will have down time, etc.

computer screen is ready to go back in the truck thursday night, never got around to making a digital map display, so the laptop will be coming along also. got alot of wiring to do on thrus/friday to get lights ready to go, aux power points in the truck, the computer up and functional with buttons this time so i dont have to reset with a paperclip. new software needs to be installed and tested, not to mention updating my music selection and playlist!

if i can scrap enough money together i may go and buy an extra cv joint, since mine are pretty shot and need to be replaced and then rebuilt as spares.

[freejake3]

The only solid plan I know of right now is we're going to run
Dishpan on Saturday morning. Outside of that......we usually do
the SoCal whatever happens happens thang. Now that I think of
it we may not even run Dishpan Saturday morning. Oh Hell....let's
just roll with it.

I checked Pirate and their run is next weekend.

Let's not forget our first-aid kits, fire extinguishers, and
tow straps. We don't want to upset the SD 4 Wheelers and their
policies. JK JK JK JK
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/affinis/ove/SD4Wheelerscopy.jpg

[Matt]

Another busy weekend on the mountain! They need to make the trails with two lanes. :)

Still seeing if I can get coverage for Saturday. If I can I'll just get up there in the morning ride a trail or shotgun and take off that evening.

[Marc P]

Pirate and TTORA are the following weekend. If the "nowhitefender" guys are there, thats cool.

[ecchamberlin]

I like the do whatever plan also. Lets just hang out and see what we want to run as we go. Detailed plans or for week days not weekends.

Hell even Mikey has to be semi responsible this week. Back to grind ah brother?

[wifesaysimadumbass]

yah ouch i had to go back today and of course it's like 95 degrees where i'm working

[Marc P]

Looks like the whole Toyota 4x4 community is running the following weekend...man am I glad we are going this weekend!!

[blacksheep]

Me too! I def. want to run Dishpan Springs. I was reading my trail book and that looks like some fun. Does anyone plan on doing some fishing for trout while up there? I might bring my Fly Rod. This trail says its got good fishing spots. Maybe we could take a nice lunch/swim/fish break here? If not, I might come back to it on Sunday. Just a thought.

I also want to do Heartbreak Ridge. Anyone else up for it? :smokin:

[Seanz0rz]

ill let you guys take a look at what im bring to the table, (basically lifted, rest is stock) and see what you think i can do with out incuring too much carnage. i dont mind being pulled through, just not being pulled over my own parts that are falling off!

[wifesaysimadumbass]

never seen or heard of heartbreakridge.... whats it like

[Troyoda]

sorry guys i missed the dates

have a good time and post some pics please :thumbup:

[wifesaysimadumbass]

started packing already it looks like it's gonna be just me and curran... alex has a big slumber party and mama wants to keep brenden at home so it will be me and my oldest boy spending some quality time together

[wifesaysimadumbass]

alright so i'm getting about 10 to 12 lbs of carne we might have a good breakfast on sunday but oh well!!!

[ecchamberlin]

Yeah I did some shopping for this weekend to Mikey. Lots of snacks and water. I may go by Cosco and buy one of those full sized folding table to aid in the prep work. I is something I need anyway.

We are going to have such a good time.

And this time if I get the Sh%&'s I won't have to put one buttock on a slider and hold on for dear life in the middle of the desert at 0200 with the wind blowing and peeing out my..... Sorry, you get the idea. I/we can just take a short walk/run to the bathrooms. Now this is livin.

[Seanz0rz]

hahahahaha!

bathrooms are nice, but i will still be missing my twice daily showers.

costco trip is friday, gotta get enough beans for 10 or more people. haha. plus chips and salsa and other goodies.

[freejake3]

I/we can just take a short walk/run to the bathrooms. Now this is livin.


I knew Mikey was gay but............

Mikey......I found some footage of Hearbreak Ridge trail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9n0T1rq7SA

[ecchamberlin]

Nice Andy. I meant I/you could run to the bathroom to keep from pooping yourself.

Not my day for emails I guess. Earlier today I sent and email to everyone at work stating that our Command PT(physical training) would be held at turner field by the volleyball quart, instead of volleyball court.

So my Commanding Officer replys that he wants a pint instead of a quart. Nice when the big guy is the one who sees you F stuff up.

[Seanz0rz]

thats classic eric. i do that all the time.

i think ill do heartbreak ridge.... haha

http://dirtopia.com/wiki/Heartbreak_Ridge

and those are some SWEET toys!!!

[ecchamberlin]

That is a good link. I think we should do that trail for sure. Even if it is a Sunday morning run.

[DEATHRUNNER]

Eric, Slider dumping is a quintessential component to true offroading. The description of your experience struck close to home for me. Ask Alea to tell you a handful of my stories by the campfire. They're always good for some laughs.

I got my budbuilt on and a new allpro caliper. Hopefully this parking brake works this time. Otherwise, I'm selling the Deathrunner and getting an RC FJ.

[freejake3]

Otherwise, I'm selling the Deathrunner and getting an RC FJ.


How killer is that thing.

[Seanz0rz]

heres a rundown on trails up in bigbear. not sure if thats all, but it looks like a fairly complete list.

http://dirtopia.com/wiki/Big_Bear

[wifesaysimadumbass]

alright my plans just did a major change i will have friday off and will be leaving with mike (blacksheep) and andy.... caravan baby...

[Seanz0rz]

i hope to be up at the site by 4. trying to beat the friday rush up the mountain.

oh and my friend bailed on me, something about a cousin's wedding or something. so its just me.

[Marc P]

I am putting waypoints into my GPS and Heartbreak Ridge is pretty far out of the way unless you plan on taking the 38 down the mountain (the long way).


I am going to try to leave SD by 2:30, otherwise if it gets later than that I will wait until after rush hour.

[Seanz0rz]

is heartbreak close to the end of another trail that is closer? just a thought...

i will hopefully have some sort of running GPS. with any luck it will be the carpc, but it hasnt been booted in several months, so i dont even know if it works.

[ecchamberlin]

Marc I will talk to you tomorrow about heading up together. Strength in numbers right? I should get out of work around noon and be home with Gabe by 1:00. So that would work great.

[freejake3]

Anyone heard of how difficult Jacoby Trail is? Looks like part of it
is in a creek bed. So many options.....

Let's talk CB channel. 10 sound good.

[ecchamberlin]

10 sounds good to me.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

10!!! roger that

[ecchamberlin]

Andy what is the latest word on fires? I am taking a stab at it being no way in hell.

[blacksheep]

well, if they got enough rain this week, who knows. See you guys tomm. Night.

[blacksheep]

Hey Mikey, you want to take this route out tomm.?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=san+diego&daddr=Big+Bear+Lake,+San+Bernardino,+California,+U nited+States&sll=33.754031,-116.897278&sspn=0.864329,1.2854&ie=UTF8&cd=2&z=9&om=1

[DEATHRUNNER]

So we're staying at crab flats? I got the directions off of thier site. I'll probably be there around 9-9:30 depending on traffic and such.

Ah, crap. I just spilled bong water on my good t-shirt. And I just got it dry cleaned.

Hail Satan

[freejake3]

Andy what is the latest word on fires? I am taking a stab at it being no way in hell.


Wow this is too good to be true. I just spoke with chelsea at the Arrowhead
Ranger Station (909-382-2782) and she said we are allowed to have fires in the
rings provided with each campsite. How's that. As long as there is a host
(someone to call the fire department) at the campground fires are allowed.
She did mention that if we are planning on having a charcoal BBQ that it be
placed within the fire ring itself. Sweet mother of campfires. Bring on the
wood. Not the best choice of wording but Mikey can relate.

On another note. Have we heard from either Brad on Smiling Jim. I think Brad
knows we all moved but did anyone inform Jim. It would be nice to wheel with
him again.

[Matt]

Looks like I got my gap covered for work.  I should be able to get up there Saturday morning or Friday night depending on if there's room for another truck, (if not no big deal).  What time are you guys planning on leaving camp for the trails?

Edit:

Err, well Demello decided to charge me TWICE for the Donahoe lift parts. That leaves me with $60 to my name. WTF! Hopefully it gets squared away.

[Seanz0rz]

i havent talked to jim in some time, i think since january. i dont really visit TOF.

ill try to grab some firewood if i can.

[Phalanx]

I'll be leaving north county by 2:45
Talk to you guys on Channel 10 (if not cell phones)

[freejake3]

Word. Looking forward to it brother.

Everyone bring plenty of water for the duration.

Anyone packing Corona in their mix. Just wondering so
I can pack the Rum accordingly. I'll bring it anyway.

Sean......are you bringing enough beans for all. If not
I can cover the rest.

[blacksheep]

Hey Matt, I got room at mine. Its just my rig, so if you need a spot, I got one for ya.

[blacksheep]

I would have brought Coronas like last time with Turboale, but I bought cans of Modelo. But its still worth a shot in a can :)

[blacksheep]

Posole being made as we speak. :) Everyone is welcome to have some.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e12/blacksheep312/th_P8160199.jpg (http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e12/blacksheep312/?action=view&current=P8160199.flv)

[Marc P]

When I wheeled with Jim on Memorial Day, he told me he was getting very busy building a new house....he is probably doing that.

Wood is good!!

[freejake3]

Log on to my4x4tv and download the video for Heartbreak/Jacoby trails.
Could be worthwhile...........

[blacksheep]

Downloading now......

[Marc P]

I wouldnt mind doing Jacoby/heartbreak on Sunday, but it would need to on the way out...those pulling trailers would have issues. Plus we would need to take the 38 down to Redlands.

[wifesaysimadumbass]

i think sunday i will do something short or maybe just fish depending on saturdays trail...curran has one of those rocket fishing rods and he is dying to use it

[blacksheep]

I'm bringing my fly rod, so I am down for fishing too. Are we running a night trail or an evening trail on Friday?

[ecchamberlin]

All packed up. Thanks Marc, for the help with the trailer this evening. Good to have good neighbors!

I will pic up a few of those bundles of firewood on my way up.

Any last minute things we need for the dinner?

Hoping to leave around 2pm. Will have to see if work wants me to leave at 2pm. LOL

[Marc P]

See you fools up there :flipoff:

[BruceTS]

OK got off early today and have to be back to work on Monday so I decided to head up to BB this weekend. I plan to either leave late Tonight or very early tomorrow, so I'll see ya'll in the morning.....

[Seanz0rz]

im leaving within an hour, if i can figure out what is causing me some pain in my left side. just popped up in the last few hours. not bad just concerning.

i should have enough beans to cover everybody. i also have alot of chips, salsa, and a little something special for desert.

should be up there no later than 4.

[ecchamberlin]

stepping off

[Seanz0rz]

well im back and unloaded. will post in the report section!