Bay Area guys, you can help.

[Robinhood4x4]

Got this email from my former club. The forest service will be having a meeting in the East Bay toward the end of July. The more people who show up the better.



Forest Service Route Designation.....Barrett Lake to close??

Do I have your attention??

Read this:I need your club's help in a BAD WAY.

We are trying to get a Forest Service meeting in the Bay Area to inform
people about the Route Designation Project and what they need to do to
argure for a trail or campsite to remain open. The forest service will only
do this if we have enough people going. I need a head count by Monday. Can
you get a bunch of people to this meeting?

The meeting will be the week of July 23rd during a weeknight, the location
will be somewhere in the East Bay, yet to be determined.

With the ELDO final Draft coming out at the end of the month, it is a very
crucial time. We only have a 45 day window to argue for routes and
campsites, and if we do not have a ton of people doing it, we will lose them
forever.

Here is the link on pirate:
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=592842

[cougarfreak]

I know many of you just like to wheel, and rely on others to do the hard work of keeping your trails open for you.

THIS MUST CHANGE!!!! THE EL DORADO NAT'L FOREST IS UNDER FIRE!!!!! READ THE FOLLOWING AND DO SOMETHING, OR DONT COMPLAIN WHEN IT IS ALL GONE. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL!!!!!!

ALL who ride in the Eldorado National Forest – Extremely Urgent

PLEASE make sure you attend at least one of these meetings. It is of EXTREME importance because they will be held AFTER the Draft Environmental Impact Statement is released and DURING the 45 day public comment period.

Time is of the essence!!!! The 45 day period will begin on July 20th and END on September 4th, 2007

PLEASE pass the word on. Post on a your club/community BB’s and any place else you think will be effective.

If you are in a club, ask your entire club to attend at least one of these meetings. We need a VERY large presence at these last 5 meetings.

Please refer to the Land-Use section to become aware of the ways you can help in this FINAL step of the Route Designation Process in the Eldorado National Forest.

Thank you

The Eldorado National Forest website can be found here… http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/projects/route/index.shtml

7/24 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Placerville - Marshall Building El Dorado County Fairgrounds, 100 Placerville Drive, Placerville, CA 95667.

7/25 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Jackson - Civic Center, 33 Broadway, Jackson, CA 95642.

7/26 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Markleeville - Turtle Rock Community Center, 17300 State Route 89, Markleeville, CA 96120.

7/31 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Folsom - Lake Natomas Inn, 702 Gold Lake Drive, Folsom CA 95630. To be confirmed.

8/2 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Concord - Pleasant Hill Recreation Center, 320 Civic Drive, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.

[reggie 00]

I know many of you just like to wheel, and rely on others to do the hard work of keeping your trails open for you.

THIS MUST CHANGE!!!! THE EL DORADO NAT'L FOREST IS UNDER FIRE!!!!! READ THE FOLLOWING AND DO SOMETHING, OR DONT COMPLAIN WHEN IT IS ALL GONE. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL!!!!!!

ALL who ride in the Eldorado National Forest – Extremely Urgent

PLEASE make sure you attend at least one of these meetings. It is of EXTREME importance because they will be held AFTER the Draft Environmental Impact Statement is released and DURING the 45 day public comment period.

Time is of the essence!!!! The 45 day period will begin on July 20th and END on September 4th, 2007

PLEASE pass the word on. Post on a your club/community BB’s and any place else you think will be effective.

If you are in a club, ask your entire club to attend at least one of these meetings. We need a VERY large presence at these last 5 meetings.

Please refer to the Land-Use section to become aware of the ways you can help in this FINAL step of the Route Designation Process in the Eldorado National Forest.

Thank you

The Eldorado National Forest website can be found here… http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/projects/route/index.shtml

7/24 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Placerville - Marshall Building El Dorado County Fairgrounds, 100 Placerville Drive, Placerville, CA 95667.

7/25 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Jackson - Civic Center, 33 Broadway, Jackson, CA 95642.

7/26 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Markleeville - Turtle Rock Community Center, 17300 State Route 89, Markleeville, CA 96120.

7/31 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Folsom - Lake Natomas Inn, 702 Gold Lake Drive, Folsom CA 95630. To be confirmed.

8/2 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Concord - Pleasant Hill Recreation Center, 320 Civic Drive, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.


Are you going to the Concord one?

Its really the only one i can get to. Sun-Wed have to be home by 5.
And Markleeville is to far out.

[cougarfreak]

I'd like to, yes. The more the marrier... any one else???

[cougarfreak]

Let's make a big impact and have a great showing at this meeting!!!!

8/2 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Concord - http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=320+Civic+Drive&city=Concord&state=ca&zipcode=94523"]Pleasant (http://"[url) Hill Recreation Center[/URL], 320 Civic Drive, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.

[cougarfreak]

Here are some others you can attend if you can't make the Concord one:


7/24 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Placerville - http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=100+Placerville+Drive&city=Placerville&state=ca&zipcode=95667"]Marshall (http://" El Dorado County Fairgrounds, 100 Placerville Drive, Placerville, CA 95667.

7/25 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Jackson - http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=33+Broadway&city=Jackson&state=ca&zipcode=95642"]Civic (http://"Turtle (http://", 17300 State Route 89, Markleeville, CA 96120.

7/31 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Folsom - http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=702+Gold+Lake+Drive&city=Folsom&state=&zipcode=95630"]Lake (http://"[url) Natomas Inn, 702 Gold Lake Drive, Folsom CA 95630. To be confirmed.

8/2 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Concord - http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=320+Civic+Drive&city=Concord&state=ca&zipcode=94523"]Pleasant (http://"[url) Hill Recreation Center 320 Civic Drive, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.

[cougarfreak]

Everyone, educate yourselves here:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596279

[cougarfreak]

Print and pass these out!!!

http://www.cougarfreakphoto.com/files/flyer1web.jpg


http://www.cougarfreakphoto.com/files/flyer2.jpg

[cougarfreak]

Get on the list for updates eldoradoroutes@fs.fed.us

[cougarfreak]

read the write up on the Placerville meeting here:
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=599901

[reggie 00]

place to meet up?

i will be heading out after work. Can i get some numbers so we can meet up. PM them.

[cougarfreak]

I'm meeting with several others at 5:30 at the 680/80 interchange near Fairfield at the Costco parking lot. We may meet some others from TTORA at the Chipotle in Walnut Creek at 6...

[Robinhood4x4]

Be sure to post a summary of the meeting, I'd like to know how it goes.

[cougarfreak]

u betcha!!!

[cougarfreak]

The meeting wasn't as bad as I figured it'd be, but it still wasn't Woo Hoo. I heard between 420-470 people in attendance, and a pair of Anti-Access-I-like-my-quiet types voiced their opinion. On the positive side there were many questions/comments mentioned that help our attempt to put routes on the map.

1 in particular dealt with writing in to the FS and tell them to strongly consider Alternate "A" instead of their proposed "D" then close on an as needed shown by scientific proof basis.

If it's resources they want/are lacking, offer assistance. Give the forest service your name and address and let them know you'll volunteer your time to help keep the trails open.

Tell them you want the proposed seasonal closures to be based on an "as needed" basis instead of a hard Nov-April

Their Stand (FS) is "It's a dynamic system and trails will be considered for adding or subtraction to or from the map on an annual basis". So, According to them, "Closed" isn't necessarily forever (remember, positive thinking).

Be specific about where your route is that you want added (FS site has route numbers for most of the trails. Those that don't have route numbers, use GPS coordinates and/or include a hilited spot on a map to indicate SPECIFICALLY which routes you want put back on the map). The better your "Why" is the more power it can punch, but a simple "favorite wheeling spot" is apparently an acceptable reason.

Send your comments before September 4th to:
A) Ramiro Villalvazo, Forest Supervisor
Attn: ENF Travel Management DEIS
Eldorado National Forest
100 Forni Road
Placerville, CA 95667

B) via e-mail in plain text (.txt), rich text (.rtf), or Word (.doc) To:
comments-pacificsouthwest-eldorado@fs.fed.us

In your mail subject line include:
ENF Travel Management DEIS

Eldorado Travel Management Hotline is 530-295-5666

[cougarfreak]

A motorcycle friend of mine says the program is flawed for us (4x4 folk) because the time to have spoke up for desired trails was last year when they were drafting up the maps, not now that the maps are already made. He (Motorcycle friend) says he and several from his trail riding group attended several meetings last year to help create the maps and talk about their favorite riding spots and are only loosing 1 trail on this new map "Alt. D . I'd like to think we're organized enough to make a big impact, but this is a big ball to have been dropped . The fire we went to last month's meetings with SHOULD HAVE BEEN harnessed last year when our requests would have counted and they were designing the maps. Am I missing something here? It seems to me that we (Cal 4Wheel members, Blue Ribbon Coalition members, at least) should have received a heads up to this trail planning a year ago when we could have made a difference (not that we didn't in last few weeks). I caught wind of these meetings from the Pirate4x4 board. Kudos to all who attended the meetings over the last few months, but I think we as wheelers need to be able to rely on those who have their fingers in the political arena to keep us apprised of the goings on in our backyards... and get more involved in the political arenas ourselves. I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong, and I'd love to prove my motorcyclist friend wrong, but I get the feeling he's right. THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE SHOULD GIVE UP!!!!! Can somebody clarify for me, please?

[cougarfreak]

If you weren't already aware, the Eldorado National Forest is taking away hundreds of miles of YOUR trails. Come on out on Sunday August 26th and let them know that this is not acceptable. Details here:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7108570#post7108570