Being Fat, Recovering, Late Evening Fight

[Cheese]

There is a guy in the department who, for whatever reason, is a pain in my butt. Tonight we talked about addictions and I used the expression "recovering fat guy." He replied with "recovering?" My thesis advisor suggested I kill the other guy. Sadly, it was a department function and I couldn't.

So, this got me thinking. I played football at 6'5" 330 when I was a junior in high school. I trimmed back to an honest 300 when I went to college, was strong and pretty quick. Then I stopped playing ball and have been trying to do some downsizing.

This morning I was 262. I have been as low as 252 in the last 4 months but going back to Wisconsin was hard on my weight.

How many of you battle weight stuff like this? I am a pretty big dude, wear flannel and am confident in other stuff, but the weight thing gets me. I drink one Fresca at supper, otherwise it is water or coffee with 3-6 beers a week. I am no longer eating like a big dude, but with broad shoulders and a big frame, I would look emaciated at less than 240.

Being active is no big deal, I run some but am convinced that people over two bills are not meant to be runners. I do jump rope classes at the gym and generally can't sit still. I do hard outside work and don't think of myself as a fat piece of crap.

Just interested how many people fight this battle too.

[AxleIke]

Department function be damned. Kick his ass.

I can't add to your discussion, except to say that you are big, but don't look fat. Interesting that your self perception is such.

at your height, if you dropped much weight, you'd just look like a pussy. Healthy is where its at, not Hollywood bullshit weight watching. As long as the Doc says you are okay, and aren't going to have heart or other health related issues, why worry about it?

Sorry to be negative, but i can't stand the Hollywood perception of beauty that is eating my generation alive. It is disgusting that we care that much.

[AxleIke]

Fucking censorship.

[Cheese]

The worse was after my prof. told me to end this guy his wife, also a wife in the department, asked if this guy was the dick who has hassled me before. The look on everyone's face was priceless.

Isaac, I appreciate it and the vain beauty part of thing is bad. My BP is good, my cholesterol is good, my back feels better than it has in a long time and other than occasionally needing coffee to get over the hump, I am healthy like a horse.

[habanero]

And look good in a kilt.

Healthy comes in all sorts of shapes and sizes. You seem to have found your ideal weight range, are feeling good and are healthy. That's the what matters of it all.

Perhaps idiot-boy has his own personal issues and something about you, confidence, intelligence, size, who knows, threatens him so he picks at a societal scab. It's all he got.
Perhaps the poor chap needs a sympathy card for his pathetic self-image.

[habanero]

And in answer to your question, I battle weight stuff too. Fat in the winter, thinner by the end of outdoors season (it's shorter with kids). Most of my life I've been far too thin. Now I'm too 'fat'. My weight has been anything from 110-160. I'm 5'9. My current happy weight is 132ish, which I'm not at right now. Years of starving in my 20's when I didn't have any money have taken a toll on my metabolism. I do have a good cholesterol level and tend to have low BP.

I don't generally get compliments on my size unless I am 10-20# underweight. Go figure.

[04 Rocko Taco]

Hab, I think your beautiful, as an aside. forget 20 lbs under... ugh.

I battle it to!!

I was always a skinny kid.... I wieghed like 105 my freshman year of high school, I've been almost 6'1 as long as I can remember. I bulked up a bit before junior year was up to about 155, mostly fat, got tired of it, started going to the gym 3 days a week or more, lost all my fat, got lots of muscle, but bulked up to about 220. Like 4% Body Fat, I then stopped going to the gym, now I am 265 pounds of flab. I eat to much, but I am curbing size and type of my meals, and trying to get myself back into the gym routine, I would like to be back down around 225 or so.

[habanero]

Sweet guy :D

[Cebby]

I struggle with weight - only since college though. Prior to going away, I was in pretty good shape, not really athletic cut - more of cornfed teenage boy. It's been a downward (actually upward) spiral ever since - over the last 20 years.

I'm 6'1" - I think my ideal weight is 210 or so - at least I felt good when I was at that weight (been a while).

After my first year of college I was 240 - partially from partying, but in big part to me discovering free weights and the St. Vincent weight room (same room the Steelers use during camp). I put on a good deal of muscle during the next few years, but my actual body fat % yo-yo'd up and down. During a summer off, I went from 240 down to 185. This was through riding a road bike, running, and going to a gym every day. I found that was too thin for me - I was ripped and all, but felt I lost too much strength. I also found that the weight came off pretty easily.

Well, 8 years of marriage without kids and the partying that goes along with that didn't help my physique in the least. Then after 8 years, we started having kids - sympathy weight (or whatever they call it) and then eating badly while the kids grow (can't let those McNuggets go to waste!) Fortunately, my kids are nearly off of McD's now and have moved on to Subway and other healthier alternatives. I thought that beer was my primary weight adder, so I switched off of beer altogether and drank vodka instead. Helped lose weight somewhat, but seemed I was heading down a slippery slope. The tolerance grew to high to quickly. Needless to say, I'm back on beer

Fast forward to 5 years ago - got up to around 280 (in sales - never ending stream of crap food while on the road). I was playing racquetball with a buddy 3 - 4 times per week and going to the gym regularly. Dropped down to 230 over the course of 6 months - was also doing the South Beach diet somewhat.

Back to about 3 years ago - I made the decision to start my own consulting business - this meant long periods on my ass in front of the computer - as well as long hours and little sleep. This probably did the most damage to my waist line as I got up to just over 300. One thing that contributed to the increase was definitely the lack of sleep. I'm now a believer that you need a reasonable amount of sleep each night - I was getting by on 3-4 hours. Not nearly enough.

I currently have a better balance of work/play time so I am getting the weight down again. I've joined a league for racquetball so I have some cardio and now that my kids are back in school, I plan to put some miles on the bike this fall.

I'm not sure what my ideal weight should be now, but I estimate I should drop 50 lbs as a good start. Have I struggled with weight? You could say that. It is a lot harder to drop it the older you get. Doesn't help that my wife is a gourmet cook with her own catering business either...plus, I like beer, Chinese food, and other stuff that's bad for my weight.

In the immortal words of Mike Myers as Middle Aged Man "I'm working on it!" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-lived_recurring_characters_on_Saturday_Night_Live# Middle-Aged_Man)

Ditto on Hab being a fox!!

[Cheese]

Part of it is the control thing. When you are a big person, you can eat a lot of crap in one sitting and it is not too disruptive. I am big so my stomach is big, it can be filled with a lot of stuff.

Part of it is stigma. I attended one grade of school at double digit weight, that was kindergarten. I will always be a fat kid in my mind. It is a mental thing to get over, but it takes time.

Habanero, you are a good looking lady with apparently a good husband and kiddo.

I won't say it paralyzes me because I don't have problems like that, but it is a constant thing. I got past the only certain things because the restrictions caused me to act out. If I couldn't have a cookie, I would want all the cookies although I don't usually care for cookies. Now I eat cookies when I want them, and just one or two.

The other side is it is not a self-confidence issue. Usually I am that guy talking to everyone, being afraid is not my deal.

[AxleIke]

You are a big man.

If you eat healthy, excersize regularly, and are still big, then you are big. Call it God's design, genetics, fate, whatever you want.

Bottom line is, you can't change who you are. You can waste time trying, or you can love yourself and say "fu ck off" to anyone who says otherwise. You don't seem to be doing the former, and won't have any trouble doing the latter.

As for the department fruitloop, if you'll get in trouble for ending his ass, you'll always have plenty of friends who'll take care of it for you.

[neliconcept]

You are a big man.

If you eat healthy, excersize regularly, and are still big, then you are big. Call it God's design, genetics, fate, whatever you want.

Bottom line is, you can't change who you are. You can waste time trying, or you can love yourself and say "fu ck off" to anyone who says otherwise. You don't seem to be doing the former, and won't have any trouble doing the latter.

As for the department fruitloop, if you'll get in trouble for ending his *******, you'll always have plenty of friends who'll take care of it for you.


yeah im thinking the same thing, the taller you are, usually your weight evens out. However im a small guy at about 155 pounds, now Ive tried eating and eating and eating, cannot gain much weight. Im just small and I'll have to deal with it, ive always wanted to get to about 185. I played football at 165 and that was my max weight ive ever been at. I was fast, but i got drilled a lot.

I agree, if someone like this douche has something to say in that regard, then he obviously has issues all in his own, You are a big man and could easily just pound him once and hes gone.

oh and "girls love tall big guys" that should make ya feel better :)

[surf4runner]

fight em??? "get in my belly"

sympathy weight :laugh: :headscratch: having a (italian ex)wife who could cook on top of it didnt help. never left food on the plate either.


as hard as it was/is, cutting out those 'sitting around' beers :yikes: helped the gut from hanging over the belt

[habanero]

Very good husband and kiddo indeed. He moans about his weight on occasion too but he looks just fine to me. If he looked any finer he'd never get anything done. :D

[neliconcept]

oh and this guys opinion doesnt matter, because hes an idiot.

[waskillywabbit]

My favorite t-shirt of all time:

"I'm fat. You're ugly. I can diet."

:flipoff:

[bdg4512]

The number one thing I hear from girls about me being 6'2" and 240lbs. is that they love that I am bigger than most. Women like to feel safe and protected, and a lot of the smaller guys just can't so effortlessly provide that feeling. That's where we shine!

My daddy poured me outta con-crete!

[Cheese]

I don't even want to hear the girl part of it. My most recent X said I was not like the rest of her boyfriends. Found out later that I was about as far away from being Emo as you can get.

I am a big cat. Until relatively recently, I was a big cat with long hair who scared people.

The point of this was temptation. It sounds like other people think and even act on this daily. When I was a really big dude in high school, I had the mindset of a huge person. We would go as a team to Pizza Hut and see which set of four people could eat the most plates from the buffet. The record was 39 with 3 pieces of pizza, salad or pasta constituting one plate.

I feel good, other than being a hairy beast I enjoy being naked, but being smaller is usually better. There aren't any big dudes in the nursing homes.

[Seanz0rz]

basically ive been the same weight (+_ 10 pounds from 170) since freshman year of highschool. im a little bit fat around the middle at 5'7, but i basically eat what ever i want, dont really gain weight. if i got enough exercise and ate well, i would be fine.

easier said than done... lol. one of these days.

[Texas Jim]

First off Cheese, Is the department head short? If so, I can safely say that he is suffering from "Short Man", Complex.


Hab, I know that you are definitely NOT FAT!!! Nor is your Hubby, and if junior is; that's O.K.

Cheese you and I sound a lot a like as far as size and such . I know that your Lumberjack compitions help keep you slimmer. I have lifted weights most of my adult life, but I made the mistake of lifting for strength. I would suggest that you lift for endurance, lots of reps, and low weight. That in turn, will change your muscle mass into longer and leaner mussel mass. Also don't forget the abdominals.

As for myself, I find that my life right now has been a very stressful year. I have been eating like a cow with muscle stomachs. I have tried to help control my stress by eating!! I know now you can't do that as I have had to start taking blood pressure med, along with cholesterol meds. Yes, for you joker's out here, I have seen the comerical's for E.D; enough said.

Tomarrow, I am going to the doctor to find out why my vision has gone down the river, along with an over all general feeling of not feeling good, being out of breath, and tired.

I am at 47, almost 48, my Father, died at 59, and all of his brother's all died, younger. I am hopefully at a point that they can tell me what I can do.

What I am saying is it sounds like your gentically made up about the same. Just do what you can while you are young before you get too far down the road to do anything about it.

You can live with out money, but you can't without your health. TJ

[Cheese]

The turd of it is it was another student. He is tall and useless, a skinny punk. My advisor used to run rides at Coney Island and is one of three people I know who have benched over 500.

I do and have done yoga, I don't like weights heavy like I did when I played ball. It is high reps and full body, dynamic exercises for useful strength. Field strength instead of weight room strength.

The eating for stress stuff is hard too. Going to school pinches wallets and time. Something that I can have hot and eaten in 5 minutes is a lot more convenient than cooking for an hour. I usually manage to cook something instead of shoveling crap, but that is easier said than done sometimes.

[habanero]

Sudden eyesight problems? Watch that blood supply to your thinker, if they can't find a reason.


Now, back to my stress-munching of the m&m's. Geez, I gotta get outta the house and exercise. Works better for the stress, makes me feel better overall.

[Texas Jim]

Now, back to my stress-munching of the m&m's. Geez, I gotta get outta the house and exercise. Works better for the stress, makes me feel better overall.

I would rather eat M&M"s than exercise!!! LOL

I have an appointment with a cardiologist next week, going to get stress test done and see what's up, EKG & Chest x-ray came back OK so off to another doctor.

Cheese, if this jerk is tall start, doing "jokes" that make him think he's getting taller, IE Cut the legs off his locker , or go in and lower his office chair, and put his desk up on blocks, I am sure you can go from there.....LOL Be clever, I am sure you can start goading this little prick, into loosing his cool. LOL TJ


EDIT: Fixed quote tags - Cebby