Limited Trim Installation

[MillerPKA]

I'm getting a used set of limited trim for my sr5 in the next few days. i had plans to take it to get the fender flares and rocker panel cladding line x'd then off to the shop to install. Turns out the updated quote to install is 250! I was thinking more along the lines of fifty, there's no way i'm paying that. I'm now more geared towards doing it myself, but I get nervous when it comes to drilling into my baby. As of now I don't know the extent of mounting hardware it's coming with, could be all of it could be nothing. If any of you have any insight into installing this, maybe replacing damaged sections or something, please let me know. Thanks in advance

[MTL_4runner]

Hmmmmm.....installing limited flares isn't fun because you need to cut alot of square holes in the fenders for the mounts. If you could find another LTD as a template, that would be ideal but I'm sure you could get it done just holding things in place and cutting holes with a dremel. Be sure to touch up any bare metal edges with touch-up paint or you could start some rust growing under those new panels.

[mastacox]

Why would put that ugly trim on a perfectly happy 4Runner???

[97kurt]

Why would put that ugly trim on a perfectly happy 4Runner???


Yeah... exactly. I would kill to not have my limited trim. But because of the door skins and holes in the fenders it will have to stay.

[97Limited]

Why would put that ugly trim on a perfectly happy 4Runner???


Yeah... exactly. I would kill to not have my limited trim. But because of the door skins and holes in the fenders it will have to stay.


Everyone is entitled to there own opinion!! He's looking for some positive feedback!

I've removed, repainted, and re-installed a Front Limited Flare, there is a fair bit of hardware holding these flares on, and I had to even go to Toyota to buy a couple new fender clips, before re-install.

I would pay the 250 to install the kit! make sure they agree that it would not cost anymore, as it is a long process!! And make sure they guarantee there work, (you don't want rust forming later on)

[MillerPKA]

thanks for the positive reinforcement! i think i'm now realizing what i've gotten myself into. i just couldn't help it though, i got the entire set for 250 shipped how could i pass that up? I just think it once i get it line x'd and installed it will look sick with the 5 spokes that are also on the way along with blake's cbi carrier. i'm going to take a look at all the parts and see if i can devise a solid diy install, if it looks shady i'll either take it to the dealership and get it over with or stick them in the closet until a rainy day comes along

[Bob98SR5]

roor,

hey, these guys are talking from experience! they are not tryign to be dicks or anything :)

i can post up a diagram for you that will help. it will show you where you have to drill holes.

but here's my take: its way more trouble than what its worth. like the guys said, you have to drill holes and tehy have to be perfectly aligned. personally, i thikn you should sell it and buy some sr5 highlander flares (look at my truck) or buy bushwackers.

bob

[DNAhilux]

Bob, can you post up that diagram. Im taking off the rear door cladding as the 3m tape is worn off and its making a gap which isnt good for winter. I just want to make sure that all i have to do is pull this thing off.
Does anyone have any tips for removing the cladding or just pull like hell? thanks all

[Bob98SR5]

dna,

ill try to get to it tonight. sened me a pm so i dont forget :)

[d0ubledown]

id pay the two fiddy to install it. as 97LTD mentioned...its quite abit of work. two fifty is what...not even 6 hours shop time? you'll definitely spend more time trying to install it youself, not to mention assorted clips etc that you'll need.

some things are better done DIY, like mechanical stuff. things that you want cosmetically perfect...pay proper body people to do the work..

[Ric]

Roor,
I personally like the Limited flares, but IMO if your going to be wheeling, Ive seen a few get trashed, and thats when I was glad I have the SR5 trim, they are a little more forgiving.

Just a thought, if you dont already the SR5 trim, and its not to much, you could get them color matched, just a thought.
either way, post up some before and after pics :thumbup:

[DNAhilux]

Thanks for the illustration Bob...so i guess i just yank the sucker off and have many clips on hand.

[Bob98SR5]

DNA,

read this:

Today I needed to access the power antenna motor. To do so I had to remove (or at least peel back the rear of) the passenger side fender flare. This allowed me to get to the clips holding the fender liner to the fender. I searched and found a few that had performed the operation and Midiwall gave me the best advice. Here is a short rundown on how to remove the limited flares (very different than the SR5).

First remove all the obvious machine screws from the inside of the flare, with a 10mm socket.

Then remove the rivet from the connection between the rear of the front flare and the lower body cladding. This is from underneath the truck. I just cut it off, you could drill it out.

Once the rivet and all the exposed machine screws are removed the flare is ready to be peeled off. The trick is knowing what is under there. First, the flare has a section that fits into the body cladding as seen in the last pic above. Take the lower rear section of the flare and flex it toward the front of the truck. This will allow that horn to come out from under the side body cladding. When doing this the flare will also come loose of the white clip in the following photo.

The flares are now held on by the red clips in the following pic. Steady pressure pulling away from the fender allows the clips to disconnect. I was worried about bending the flares and creasing them or peeling some paint, so be careful, but that is all it will take.

Once peeled back it looks like this, and allows you to access the clips that are under the fender flare.

Once these clips are removed, (I just drilled them out and replaced with new ones -over $2 each) you can access the antenna motor.

Others have posted how to fix the antenna, so I will stop here.

To reinstall the flares replace the clips that hold the liner in place, then carefully realign the flare and snap in place. Finish by re-installing the sheet metal screws around the inner flare . I did not replace the rivet yet. The dealer sold me a clip that was supposed to fill that location, but looks to need drilling the hole larger. I may just leave it out. The flare locks into the side cladding anyway and I do not think a fastener is necessary.

begrudgingly, this is from YT but from a good friend, skyrat who does not post at all anymore here or over there. :(

sorry, the pic links are dead

[DNAhilux]

hmm, ok. ya there is some weird black platic piece that has rivets to the cladding..wasnt sure if that was attached to the door in any way. ill have to do some more investigation.

[Seanz0rz]

could you use something like 3m adhesive tape for body accessories for the door trim? the kind of stuff that attaches things liek bushwacker fender flares and such.

[DNAhilux]

the toyota limited cladding uses the clips and a strip of 3M double sided tape on the top edge. the double sided tape actually has its own part number too.

[Seanz0rz]

ok so could you just use the tape, and not the clips so you dont have to cut holes in the doors?

[DNAhilux]

well the clips definitely will add strength, since it seems like there are like 9 or 11 clips for the rear door cladding alone. the 3m tape is used to just make a nice seal up top. but i suppose if you get the wider 3m tape and put it everywhere it may hold up.

[Bob98SR5]

yeah, im with sean on this. if you can find some good 3M tape that is made for this type of application, i'd try that first rather than drilling holes. i would seriously doubt that it would lose its adhesion easily (i love 3M stuff) and fall off one day while driving

[DNAhilux]

it is an option for those who want to try and adding the cladding. personally i just need to fix mine as the factory 3M tape is loosening up a bit.

[Bob98SR5]

DNA,

if hte tape is along the top edge, can you pull it far enough by softening the adhesive with a heat gun so you can remove the adhesive? And is the adhesive a tape adhesive or a liquid type? If tape, that is easier to remove, but will require you to use some kind of citrus based remover. when all of that adhesive is removed, then i presume you can find a good friend who can keep the cladding apart while you apply the tape

but it would be much easier if you just removed them :)

bob

[MillerPKA]

don't get me wrong, i'm a big supporter of 3m products (who isn't?) but i don't know how much i would trust JUST that holding it on. granted the pieces don't weigh that much but i'm questioning its durability at highway speeds and the long run. if this is a feasible idea i might have to go get the trim line x'd next week to put on

[neliconcept]

Weston, ill give you a couple of reasons why not to put those things back on if you are debating.

and ill show you the pics of my flares and what happened to 3 of 4 on carnage.

[MillerPKA]

you were supposed to show me pics the other day, i'm about to show a little of what i did this weekend haha

[fenrisx]

Any updates? I personally think the limited flares look better than no flares on a 4Runner. I'm partial though since mine has 'em!

[MillerPKA]

i have a buyer but he hasn't replied as of today. i'm in the proceess of designing the first stage of my exocage, tubing around the fender wheels just like trim and 1.5" of sheet metal angled towards the body, sort of a custom trim

[DNAhilux]

Well i replaced my 3M adhesive by just removing the majority of the cladding, except towards the very back of the door since there is a piece going into the door almost. I just applied some heat with a blow dryer and scraped it off and put on the new stuff. Also I ordered all the clips first as you will break them all removing the cladding. Each clip was around 50 cents each. Looking at it, I would not recommend only using the 3M tape to hold it on. You would need the clips for sure, but the conversion would really be easy and not as scary as one may think.

[MillerPKA]

explain...i figured drilling into my body all the way around was scary enough

[Seanz0rz]

wonder if you could find the same type of clip, but one that sits in a round hole, so you can just drill the door panel instead of cutting square holes.

[DNAhilux]

I think i have some leftover clips, so if I find them ill snap some pics. I dont think square holes are mandatory on the body. The holes are more rectangular than anything, which allows for easier removal of the clip by turning it. It is the end that goes into the flare which is more important. If you wanted suquare holes in the body and had time and patience it could be done with a drill and a dremmel. To know where to drill, you just mark the flare with some type of washable marking and press the cladding against the body.

[MillerPKA]

it'd take lots and lots of pictures for me to think about this. and hilux, you said you bought every clip again? how much did it cost you total? part numbers?

[DNAhilux]

Yellow tabs are 90467-11100 @1.52CDN x 3 for rear door cladding
White tabs are 90467-11099 @1.52CDN x 6 for rear door cladding
On both of them the side that looks like a W goes into the cladding, the other into the door
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[MillerPKA]

thanks for the pics and specs, since your cladding is off i'm assuming could you take pictures of the holes in your body?

[penangtoy]

i have a buyer but he hasn't replied as of today. i'm in the proceess of designing the first stage of my exocage, tubing around the fender wheels just like trim and 1.5" of sheet metal angled towards the body, sort of a custom trim

hi roo runner I found a set of limited flares and everything completeand it was a local seller. so sorry for not getting back to you sooner. My friend who works in abodyshop is helping me install mine hopefully this weekend. I am new to this forum and saw your post. I need to learn how to post picts and will try posting some pictures later.

[Seanz0rz]

i have a buyer but he hasn't replied as of today. i'm in the proceess of designing the first stage of my exocage, tubing around the fender wheels just like trim and 1.5" of sheet metal angled towards the body, sort of a custom trim

hi roo runner I found a set of limited flares and everything completeand it was a local seller. so sorry for not getting back to you sooner. My friend who works in abodyshop is helping me install mine hopefully this weekend. I am new to this forum  and saw your post. I need to learn how to post picts and will try posting some pictures later.


to post pictures, create a photobucket account, upload your pictures there, and then copy the [ img ] tags here.

oh and welcome!

[DNAhilux]

thanks for the pics and specs, since your cladding is off i'm assuming could you take pictures of the holes in your body?

roor, nope no pics of the holes..i was just replacing the original 3M tape, and well forgot to bring my camera when i went to my friends garage. So its all sealed back up.

[MillerPKA]

no problems, i would be very interested in seeing the installation, make sure you take plenty of pictures, this is a much needed write up. good luck!

[p nut]

I really didn't care for my Limited trim on my old 98. However, yours will be rhino-lined, so it might not look bad. But like others have said, I would save the headaches and forego the Limited trim. Instead, get some Sport Edition flares. Looks much better, IMO. :D

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