Lift Question

[4runnersurf]

I have a 98 4runner with stock springs and rancho shocks that will need to be replaced soon. I want to put a mild lift on it, mainly for looks. I do occasionally offroad, but nothing hard. I want to put a lift that will have the least amount of stress on my CV boots as possible. Which is better?

The 99 coil spring set up?
Land Cruiser set up?
Or this set up? http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/4Runner/tech/suspension/jims.htm

[20005spd]

if i were you i wouldnt bother with a 1-2" lift kit. 2.5" front and 3" rear is a good height, it wont stress cv's especially if you get the 1" diff drop. i think the best setup for you would be tundra coils up front, with either blue tokico shocks or greens. and ome 3" springs and new shocks out back. i started with the kit on the top of this page http://www.toyteclifts.com/96024runnercart.html#96024runnerfrontliftopts then moved to 2004 trd 4wd tundra coils and green tokico shocks in the front.
for what you want LC springs are going to be to high for you in the rear.

[Bighead]

For the mild lift you want look at the Tundra's up front like 20005spd said and Old Man Emu 890s for the rear.

[bflooks]

i know this isn't the classifieds, but i have a set of the ome 891's and shocks to go with them. springs have about 50k on them, shocks about 20k. i could let them go for 150 plus shipping.


anyhow, i ran these springs and daystar 2.5" spacers up front on top of my stock strut setup. it was fine for me, and i drive a ton. everyone seems to like the tundra setup, but i don't have any experience with that. i would recommend you try to find people local who have these setups and ask for a ride. you could hit up the midatlantictoyotacrawlers. they used to be part of ttora. i am sure some of them are running them.

[20005spd]

if your interested in flooks rear setup i have 2.5" front spacers from my toytec kit that i am selling. the reason i switched to tundra coils was i bought cheap junk shocks from a local parts store and it made it ride horrible. i was going to just change the shocks but figured while i was in their i would switch to tundras to see what all the fuss was about :D

[Lee]

if i had a 3rd gen and i wanted to lift it for looks, id just do OME all around, shocks and coils.

an ome lift with the swaybars on would probably yield a pretty good ride quality.

[4runnersurf]

That's what I originally wanted to run, the ome's all around. But that's an expensive route that I would have to save up for. If I got the OME would I need the diff drop? Also, If I swaped my springs for the 99's and bilstien's shocks, could i add a spacer for a mild lift? How would the ride be?

[Lee]

its expensive but worth it if you can do it. if not, look for a used set around on the various boards :)

you dont "need" the diff drop, but people claim it helps with cv angles. i never installed one in my 4r which i wheeled the crap out of, and my cv angles were great. ome coils and shocks all around on it.

if you get 99 springs, you can put a spacer lift up front, but get some other coils for the back :)

i wouldnt do bilsteins, imo they are too soft for lifted 4runners.

spacer lifts are harsher ride-wise, thats why i suggested coils, but if youre willing to live with it, its not that bad.

[4runnersurf]

By the way 20005spd, how was the ride with the top kit on toytec? What shocks did you use?

[4runnersurf]

I've heard the OME all around is a better ride then the stock suspension. Is that true?

[Lee]

I would say so.. I loved how it rode and handled

[4runnersurf]

does anybody know the part #'s for the OME?

[20005spd]

By the way 20005spd, how was the ride with the top kit on toytec? What shocks did you use?
the ride was bad because the shocks i used. i couldnt reuse my old shocks like i planned due to rust and i was half way through installing my lift so i went down the street and bought some junk $50 monroe shocks. knowing what i know now i would run the blue, black, or green tokico shocks which ride great and only extend so far so they prevent excessive droop, which kills cv's. www.sonoransteel.com is where i got most of my shock info from.

[4runnersurf]

http://www.rocky-road.com/4runner.html

what does the complete suspenion consist of?

[Bighead]

http://www.rocky-road.com/4runner.html

what does the complete suspenion consist of?

The OME kit should consist of front and rear coils and shocks.

Check Wheeler's Offroad also: http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/ome4runner.htm

[4runnersurf]

If that's all it consists of can I buy the components separatly? It would be cheaper to buy the components separatly.

[bflooks]

you can buy anything you want seperately. i pieced my lift together when i first did it. now i am selling it all off as fronts and then as rears. the cheapest i have ever found for new parts is toyota of dallas. they are awesome. but, don't count out the slightly used parts out there. you can find awesome deals and have a lift in your truck for under $300.

[NakSuKow]

Are you planning on running the bilstein HD shocks or 5100 model?

Does anyone have anyexperience with these:
5100 fronts Fronts: BE5-D558-TO
http://i14.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/a8/8e/4b4f_12.JPG

And for rear bilstein 7100 10 inch stroke 24.29" extended 14.06 compressed
AK7110SB Short Body Reservoir
http://www.bilstein.com/ART/7100.jpg

EDIT SS 1.2 and 7.2 LIFTS NOW USE 5100 series bilsteins

[4runnersurf]

I've been doing a lot of research and I think I've decided on the OME. One question though. Do I need the coil spacers for it? Will I be fine with just the front and rear shocks and coils?

[20005spd]

spacers are not required with ome front springs. although i have heard of those front springs sagging with an arb bumper or equally heavy bumper. thats why i personally wouldnt go that way, but all springs will sag somewhat with more weight.

[Lee]

I've been doing a lot of research and I think I've decided on the OME. One question though. Do I need the coil spacers for it? Will I be fine with just the front and rear shocks and coils?
i'd vote no :)

[4runnersurf]

Here's the update: Once my tax return comes back, I am purchasing an all OME kit. I have a manik brush guard with two hella 500s, but no winch. I want a soft feel, so I was thinking about going with the medium duty springs, but soft comfort shocks, N91SC. Is this a good idea?

[Lee]

it's about personal preference. imo, these trucks ride and handle like CRAP when lifted with soft shocks and/or coils... they seem to float. this is from personal experience, by the way.

stiffening up 3rd gen 4runners with harder coils and harder shocks wont make it ride like crap or anything, the weight and balance of the truck i think matches a harder ride better, so it actually feels safer and more comfortable.

i dont know how much you plan to wheel, but i can safely say you want a harder ride offroad if you plan to wheel rocks. i had a LOT of bounce with soft shocks and that is just plain frustrating offroad. on-road the truck felt safer with harder shocks as well.

[Lee]

http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2013.0

thats my old 01, now sold, but it had the full OME front and rear.

[4runnersurf]

I don't wheel that often and when I do, there's no rocks involved. I wouldn't want a bouncy ride though. What part #s did you use?

[Lee]

i bought the front lift used so im not sure, but the rear shocks are n86's and coils were 891's.

[4runnersurf]

Thanks, that's what I'm going to get. I'm going to wait for a good deal to come up and buy seperatly if possible, and just piece it together. Thanks for the help.

[4runnersurf]

For those who are running the Tundra/OME setup:

Would I have to run with a spacer or packer of some sort to level it out, or should that be level?

[20005spd]

For those who are running the Tundra/OME setup:

Would I have to run with a spacer or packer of some sort to level it out, or should that be level?

if you are running an arb or similar bumper or have a winch you will most likely need the trim packers to level it. i run tundras with no front spacer and i have a custom tube bumper, not much weight, no winch. when i install my lc coils in the rear i will most likely need to have a front spacer.