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drguitarum2005
02-01-2008, 06:25 PM
Copied from TTORA:

I posted a while ago about my http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71111"]bouncy (http://"[url) rear end[/URL] and never really got around to doing anything about it. I finally decided to do something about it today and heres what happened:

I got under my truck to take my shocks out and found that one shocks (drivers side) no longer had a bushing in it at the bottom so it was sitting loose around the mounting bolt on the axle. That in itself isn't good, but the shock was also not in tension OR compression, it was just hangin there. I took the shock off and it kept its length, i could push it in or pull it out fairly easily and it'd stay how i left it. The passenger side one behaves the same way. I also found, after turning them upside down, that there is some fluid around where the inner "shaft" slides in and out of the shock. To me this means they are both blown, but my questions are:

(1) What should a normal shock act like? Should it stay where I put it or should it always try to extend itself fully?

(2) My shocks are mounted triangular ( /\ ) (see pic in previous post for angles) with what looks like about a 30* angle off the vertical. If I were to replace these shocks, should I replace them how they were or should I try to put them back to stock?

(3) The stock shock locations are NOT at verticals from the axle. The drivers side looks like it'd hold the shock at the same 30* or even WORSE if I put them back to stock, same with the pass. side. People say triangular loses damping power because of the angles...which I understand, but the stock angles aren't very good either...

(4) I'd need to flip my u-bolts back to stock in order to use the stock mounting locations...so thats a tradeoff. Is it worth it?

(5) The shocks I had were Rancho RS5012. What is a good shock to replace it with? Should I go stiffer or softer if I want the axle to stop dancing around? How good are adjustable shocks? I was considering the Rancho RS9000XL

(6) The Rancho RS5012 has a compressed eye-eye length of 19" and extended length of 32.5". That length works perfectly fine for my triangular setup but is that too long to be put back to stock on my 2000 Tacoma?

Thanks and hopefully I provided enough info.

By the way, I'm driving around with NO shocks right now and my truck acts EXACTLY the same way as it has for the almost 2 years I've owned it, thats a big tell to me that my shocks weren't doing anything.

4runnerchevy
02-02-2008, 08:37 AM
I cant help you with location. The Rancho shock is a decent shock the 9000xl is a 9 position shock. In run 9000s and have no problems. 9012 being the longest in the series. I know that a /\ shock angle doesn't help at all with axle wrap. The best angle is closest to vertical, but most of us don't have that luxery. I run em' the same way and don't have the bouncy problem. Your shocks are definitly blown if they leak, or you can push them in easily. Also when you run Rancho's upside down for clearance they tend to get a bubble which is not a huge problem if you dont use the last inch of compression. This all I know, from experience. I changed my shock location so many times trying to find the sweet spot. Front ones are vertical and rears are /\ with the bottoms next to the spring perches and the tops in the center. I also run chevies in the rear and rears up front.

Good Luck!

Lee
02-02-2008, 06:37 PM
if you compress a shock it should rebound back out... however fast or slow will determine how bouncy or not your ride is. it should not stay compressed.

/\ works well on my friend's 01 taco, so id guess you can stick with it.

try the bilstein 5150's, they work nicely on my friends 01 taco and he wheels hard.

traben27
02-02-2008, 09:07 PM
if you compress a shock it should rebound back out... however fast or slow will determine how bouncy or not your ride is. it should not stay compressed.


I thought that only happens on the gas powered shocks, otherwise they stay where you pull/push on them.

drguitarum2005
02-02-2008, 09:16 PM
if you compress a shock it should rebound back out... however fast or slow will determine how bouncy or not your ride is. it should not stay compressed.

/\ works well on my friend's 01 taco, so id guess you can stick with it.

try the bilstein 5150's, they work nicely on my friends 01 taco and he wheels hard.




I think i've already decided on the 5150s but i dont know if i want the soft valving or the stiff valving. with such a lightweight rear end i worry that the stiff might be TOO stiff but i dont know if i know what im talking about...

BruceTS
02-02-2008, 09:25 PM
your shocks were definately bad....... get new one's and your golden

Lee
02-03-2008, 05:23 AM
if you compress a shock it should rebound back out... however fast or slow will determine how bouncy or not your ride is. it should not stay compressed.

/\ works well on my friend's 01 taco, so id guess you can stick with it.

try the bilstein 5150's, they work nicely on my friends 01 taco and he wheels hard.




I think i've already decided on the 5150s but i dont know if i want the soft valving or the stiff valving. with such a lightweight rear end i worry that the stiff might be TOO stiff but i dont know if i know what im talking about...
i'd go with stiff.

soft will make ya float :) trucks are supposed to ride hard, imo :)