veggie oil car ...not free after all

[anthony1]

Apparently, in CA, it doesn't pay to drive veggie oil vehicle. You'll get hit with taxes..
What kind of tax you might ask? How about 18Cents road tax for every gallon of oil you burn. How about a license to transport kitchen grease away from eateries. How about 1 mill. in liability ins. in case of a spill while transporting. Not least, a permission from state Air Resources Board to burn fat.

I'm not sure how long the link will last but...here's the story.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-vegoil6-2008may06,1,1932886,full.story

This tax thing lead me to think....if I drive a car that use more gas, I'm paying more than a hybrid vehicle to use the same road , I should be the one using the the car-pool lane instead......LOL

[neliconcept]

yep and its costing others as well in other states

not free anymore and i think thats ridiculous. just a way for the state to get more money then waste it else where

[MTL_4runner]

All that says is that there are too many useless and outdated laws.
Not sure why on earth you'd need $1M in liability coverage to clean up a cooking oil spill. :gay:

[Tankota]

Then we should all have to carry $1M insurance just in case the oil in our engines leaks out onto the ground. :chair:

[Good Times]

interesting article. I wonder how this is different from throwing your used cooking old and taking it to a facility to have it recycled? Or what about motor oil? I've got gallons of used motor oil that I transport once a year to local places to recycle.

This law is jacked up! Still won't stop me from buyin a diesel to go bio :D

[Seanz0rz]

its only illegal if you get caught.

[Good Times]

yeah but since we live in the republic of kalifornia, they'll prob setup stings at the restaurant to fine us when we go to pick up the damn oil!

[Seanz0rz]

just run. they have plastic flashlights now, so they cant beat you. just make sure the news copter is over head. that way they cant hurt you at all.

[anthony1]

its only illegal if you get caught.


kinda like Illegal Aliens........LOL.

[neliconcept]

yeah but since we live in the republic of kalifornia, they'll prob setup stings at the restaurant to fine us when we go to pick up the damn oil!


move to the south. WE WILL RISE AGAIN!!!

[Bob98SR5]

the people who have shouted at the top of their lungs about 'french fry cars' being free fuel have typically been the stupid, hippy types who dont know jack about ... well, about business. stupid socialist, "FU to Bush" types. nothing is free in this world.

this is an issue thats very well known throughout the WVO and biodiesel communities. the fuel tax is actually applied to regular gas and diesel as well. its a part of the road tax that is used for road construction, repair, etc. but to catch a biodieseler is literally unenforceable.

as far as the transportation of oil, they are applying an commercial waste fuel transportation law to waste oil transporters. this is pretty stupid, but its something the man can use to fine wvo transporters.

so what people do is they form a co-op to do a group purchase on the insurance policy, hand out magnetic signs w/ the co-op's name on it to apply on yoru vehicle when transporting used oil. they keep a log of the oil that was picked up and 'guesstimate' how much oil was consumed in their vehicles and pay the measly $0.18 per gallon.

the other thing people do too is NOT STICK F'G STUPID "I HATE BUSH AND THE OIL COMPANY' stickers all over their cars or the ubiquitous "RUNNING ON FREE FUEL - ASK ME HOW!" stickers. dont attract needless attention to your car. in fact, when i get my biodiesel car running, i am removing the "diesel" badge off my mercedes, provided it does not leave a noticeable good paint impression where the badge used to be.

dont worry folks, its still cheaper than $4.60 per gallon diesel and its easy enough to be legal and/or not to attract attention to yourself. to make biodiesel on the high end will be around $1.50/gallon

the other thing i wanted to add is that WVO guys are much more apt to get nailed b/c they usually run two tanks. open the trunk and the cops will know you are WVO'ing. so yet another reason to spend the time, money and energy and building your own biodiesel processor

[anthony1]

my question is how come the state and fed doesn't go after the electric cars too? I know they pay for the electricity but still...no road tax.

[amgraham]

the other thing i wanted to add is that WVO guys are much more apt to get nailed b/c they usually run two tanks. open the trunk and the cops will know you are WVO'ing. so yet another reason to spend the time, money and energy and building your own biodiesel processor

Haha.. We've gone back to the moonshine days!

http://images.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/051000_03z+1940_ford_tudor_coupe+trunk_view.jpg

:D

[Bob98SR5]

my question is how come the state and fed doesn't go after the electric cars too? I know they pay for the electricity but still...no road tax.


thats a good question, esp for a car that is pure 100% electricity driven. perhaps paddlenbike can ask his epa buddy

[Seanz0rz]

those vehicles (the VERY VERY few that are out there) might get taxed through DMV registration fees.