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paddlenbike
05-17-2008, 09:39 PM
I don't know why I waited so long to install the Hella Micro DE fog lights, these things are great! I bought what I thought was an aftermarket kit, but it came in a Toyota Genuine Parts box. All I did was install the brackets and lights, plugged in the included relay and tapped two wires under the steering column for the switch and they were done. SR5's are prewired for fogs from the factory.

http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/micro_de_1.jpg

http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/micro_de_2.jpg


I also re-did the cargo light with LEDs. These put out a little over 6X the light as stock.

Before:
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/rear_dome_before.jpg

After, without the lens cover:
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/rear_dome_after.jpg

Note the difference in brightness between this light and the stock passenger area dome light.
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/rear_dome_after2.jpg

http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/rear_dome_after3.jpg

The stock rear dome light was useless for finding anything at night. In fact, I tried to photograph the stock light output and it was so dim you couldn't hardly see anything in the photo. I used twelve LEDs in the rear--probably should have used ten...it's a bit overkill. I will probably use six in the front one when I get around to it.

It was 103 degrees here...I think I drank 2 gallons of water while working on the truck!

YotaFun
05-17-2008, 09:44 PM
Schweet!
How about doing a mini writeup for the few of us who do not know about the world of LED :D

The light in the back rules!

ttora4runner
05-17-2008, 10:06 PM
Thanks, for posting. Looks like another mod to add to my list.


I have that same blanket and cargo mat in my 4runner.

humanoid
05-17-2008, 11:42 PM
Nice job there, bro! X2 on the DIY write-up!

Bob98SR5
05-18-2008, 01:04 PM
yes, please ken, impart your LED knowledge!

paddlenbike
05-18-2008, 03:39 PM
Eh, these high-power LEDs are a lot more complicated than regular 5mm LEDs. These LEDs (http://www.besthongkong.com/product_info.php?cPath=19_36&products_id=496) pull 3.3V each, so technically you could run three in series, using up 9.9V, with a resistor to dissipate the excess voltage. Problem is, LEDs need to run near their peak amperage to be efficient and put out plenty of light. You'll find only 11.8V at the rear dome light with the vehicle off and 14.6V with it running. Resistor your circuit for 14.6V and it won't put out much light with the vehicle off at 11.8V. Personally, I need the cargo dome to be brightest when the car is off--that is usually when I'm digging around in the back to find stuff.

So, buy LM7808 8V regulators at RadioShack. These will provide consistent voltage to the LEDs regardless of whether it's running or not. You can run two LEDs in series and up to three arrays (six total) behind each regulator. I used twelve LEDs total, so I have two regulators. Hook the positive from the dome light to the regulators, then from the output pin of the regulators to the anode of the first LED. Connect the cathode of the first LED to the anode of the second LED, then from the cathode of the second LED to a resistor, then to ground.

Here is what the back of the unit looks like:
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/rear_dome3.JPG
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/4Runner/mods/rear_dome4.JPG

The black things are heatsinks to dissipate the heat from the regulators. The green things are 0.22uF capacitors to absorb vehicle voltage spikes and protect the circuits.

I know there will be plenty of questions, so ask away...

Robinhood4x4
05-18-2008, 06:36 PM
I think this is going to call for a full on write up with part numbers and diagrams Ken! :bowdown:

reggie 00
05-18-2008, 09:31 PM
Or an order form and pricing/labor information.


Don't know about anyone else but i havent soldered anything to a breadboard for at least 11yrs.

Seanz0rz
05-18-2008, 11:15 PM
Or an order form and pricing/labor information.


Don't know about anyone else but i havent soldered anything to a breadboard for at least 11yrs.


lol, if ken produces some schematics, id be willing to build them, say a dozen at a time.

mastacox
05-19-2008, 08:15 AM
Man that LED array is shweet... I need to do something like that! :bowdown:

Wiring diagram would be very cool, I'd love to try and reproduce this mod F&R on my truck. Any idea of what the current pull is for the LED array versus a standard bulb?

paddlenbike
05-19-2008, 08:45 AM
I can do a schematic and a parts list (with parts numbers), it will just have to wait until I get back into town after Memorial Day weekend.

The modded dome light uses the equivalent of 3.8 watts. The stock rear dome light is either 5W or 8W (can't remember which), so the LED one saves a bit of power but puts out far more light.

As you could tell, you will have to remove a lot of material from the dome light housing and you will also have to remove some steel from the roof to get the array to fit. Other than that, it just requires some patience soldering.

I picked up my girlfriend from the airport at 11:00p.m. last night and when she opened the rear hatch she said "holy crap it's bright back here!", so this upgrade won't go unnoticed by anyone, even a girl!

ETRNL
05-20-2008, 06:54 AM
Do you think that this setup could be waterproofed with some sort of epoxy to be used as rock lights?

paddlenbike
05-20-2008, 08:49 AM
Sure, just throw the regulators in a hobby box and pot the LEDs themselves in clear epoxy resin and you'll be good to go.

ETRNL
05-24-2008, 12:53 AM
awesome cant wait for a write up!!

paddlenbike
05-29-2008, 04:54 PM
There are three ways of hooking up LED circuits, 1) using resistors (cheap way with little protection for the LEDs and no way to control brightness between car on/off), 2) voltage regulation (what I did above) and 3) current regulation (which is what I did on my footwell lights). I simply don't recommend method #1. Now that I've tried both voltage regulation and current regulation, I have to say that I like the current regulation option best.

There is enough information in my post above to get started on a voltage regulated circuit, but you might want to wait and see what I'm working on next. It will be current regulated and should be easier to hook up than what you saw above.

ETRNL
05-30-2008, 04:30 PM
sweet cant wait. i am getting bored not going anywhere unless i have to to save gas...