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elripster
05-31-2008, 10:45 PM
Well, for those who don't know Claire and I are relocating to the midwest. It's been a bit of adventure.

I'll start with the part when the shipper guy comes over and estimates how much our stuff weighs (read how much over what is covered we are and what we'll have to pay...) Needless to say, we were estimated at like 5K lb over and they were charging a buck a pound. Fast forward to Tuesday evening, that evening we were packing the 4runner for my drive back. (Claire flies out in a few weeks)

Knowing that automatic 3 liter 4runners are not the best tow rigs in the world I was a bit concerned with available payload. My trailer and two motorcycles along with tool box, etc... was probably pushing 2000lb, the vehicles tow limit. They truck was loaded so bad it was sagging with 100PSI in the air shocks. I have 5.71's which while making life easier on the engine/tranny, make life hell on the differential. It now generates the heat the engine and tranny are not. These facts, however, left Claire undaunted as she proceeded to use up every available cubic millimeter of volume. We get paid for me to drive out there so if I'm displacing that which we'd have to pay to ship it's a good thing right? (perspiration forming....)

Wednesday morning I leave Mission Valley around 4:45AM for Vista to pick up the trailer. After hooking up and double checking everything, I leave Vista around 6AM. Ok, so the truck at least seems to stop Ok. It sure does take its sweet time getting up to speed. Furthermore, the trailer's stock Toyota shocks (this trailer was once a Toy 4X4) are not handling the top heavy... and just plain heavy load of motorcycles well. It rocks side to side quite a bit. Still, I come down Gofer Canyon and get on to I15. I have decided to take the 40 AKA Route 66. I didn't want to pull this load over the Rockies through Colorado. After seeing the weather this week, it looks like I dodged a hell of a bullet as far as missing some servere storms in the states east of the Rockies.

Things are going well, I hit a ton of traffic in LA but what's new. Then I start to climb the grade on 15. I'm pulling Ok for most of it. I'm in 3rd, (OD locked out) until I get towards the top. I think I smelled gear oil but am not sure. Towards the top I'm in 2nd gear along with the slowest of semis. Just us truckers eh.

Now, climbing is a pain, but I figured when I got over top I'd be Ok. I didn't realize one little detail, that the "high" desert beyond really is high. And, as I climbed again in Flagstaff, to 7335 feet, the "high" desert got stupid high, like 5-6K feet high. This meant that the hamsters under the hood were starving for much needed oxygen. Now if the wind had been nice and still...

Well it wasn't. In fact, it was blowing wicked hard. Once and a while, I'd turn northward and get a tail wind, at this time I could actually keep up with traffic. Otherwise, it was a hellacious crosswind that make it very difficult to keep the whole rig going straight...at like 60mph... or even 55 at times. I just accepted that fact that the trailer was going to rock its way all the way to Illinois. At least the truck was so heavily loaded the trailer didn't wag the dog too badly. This started to make me very tired. By the end of the day I had made it to Gallup New Mexico. I was exhausted and had not made it nearly as far as I had hoped. I was taking pictures of where I stopped but didn't get one of this one station. People were staring at me and my rig like.. I dunno... hungry dogs? Horny teenagers? Anwyay, I decided to split, I was getting the creeps. I think that was somewhere in Arizona.

Day Two: I get about 4 hours of nice calm winds and it's back to feeling like I'm trying to tack a sailboat again. Semis are passing me constantly. I'm a pro at the whole flash the lights so they now the can merge back into the right hand lane. The wind has turned more north and is really beating on the truck/trailer. The tarp begins to shred that is covering the goods. I keep wondering when I'm going to descend, does the high desert never end? I see signs from time to time stating 5 to 6000 feet and the truck is not liking this one bit. About ever three hours, the truck "hiccups" for lack of a better word. I don't know why and it would continue to do this every few hours the remainder of the trip. In Texas, I was fighting winds so bad that I had scaled back my hopes of making it to Tusla to just getting out of Texas. Well, I persevered and made it to Tulsa at 10PM. Now I'm retardely tired since had been driving since 6:30AM. My suspicions were confirmed at this point, I should not have loaded the truck like this and tried to drive across the country. I'm just hoping she makes it. The Scary Days Inn just west of Tulsa was... interesting. Apparently it was very safe. They have a contract with truckers and have security watching the lot. Otherwise, it was a rough crowd. Again, no one was mean or anything... maybe it's the CA plates... maybe it's a Toyota.. I don't know but what gives with staring? Weird. The room had a moldy AC that didn't work, hard bed, tiny towels, I think I saw hookers walking around (no surprise I guess)... yep it was budget. Still I was too tired to care.

Day Three: I am dead set on making it to the hotel in Lisle Il. I leave at 6:30. Now I have to tell you, Oklahoma is a really pretty state as is Missouri. However, don't let the lush foliage fool you, on those off ramps lie some rather seedy areas. Nevertheless, people were nice, if missing teeth. The ultimate paradox: a guy with a huge gut, tatoos, missing teeth, God khnows what else... parked next to a black kid in a Buick Regal on 20 million inch rims with a bumping system.... classic. I didn't hit any weather the whole trip until I got into Illinois. I had some bad rain but that was it. 6:30PM I pull into the hotel. I have been staying here at the Marriott a lot since I started working for Argonne in March so they all know me by name. I was asleep by 8:30 and didn't move until 8:30AM.

So, the truck made it. It is running very well too. My back brakes are hanging up when the truck has been sitting for a while but let go as soon as I drive like .5 miles. I get the keys to our house we bought the 9th and will see what ails it. The hiccups (truck) have not returned. That is good. I realize I have abused it badly and surely have shortened the life of the powertrian but oh well. I can always upgrade that when the time comes.

Tonight there is this band playing at the hotel for this wedding party. I went downstairs to check it out and have a martini. Well, Toto, I'm sure not in San Diego anymore. It's a country blues band with two drummers (why? anyone? Bueller?), clearly no defined set list as they debated song to song, an old lady on keys, kid on guitar (who was reallly good), and I'm guessing dad, grand dad? and cousin on bass, accoustic...2nd drummer? They weren't bad... or good... but yep it was interesting.

I have pictures and will share them soon. My normally reliable SDORI web host is not working for some reason and I can't upload or check email right now. I have a service request in and since it is the weekend I'll wait until Monday for his response. I'm sure he'll straighten it out. It looks like a DNS propagation issue. When I can I'll post pics from the trip. Most are of nothing because despite how populated our coastlines are, most of the US is vacant land.

Frank

slosurfer
05-31-2008, 10:56 PM
Frank, glad to hear that you and the 4runner made it back there safely. :thumbup:

Nick
05-31-2008, 11:37 PM
That's an interesting trip description, although I gotta say, just reading it conveyed a sense of tedium! I mean, you're so vivid with the descriptions it's brutal! I know all about the... hit the road at 6 in the AM, drive overloaded 4Runner all day, stare grudgingly as semis blow on by, drop dead at seedy motel at 10PM, come morning, rinse (maybe, if the shower works) and repeat. Looking forward to the shots!

Robinhood4x4
05-31-2008, 11:56 PM
Wow, cool deal Frank. I didn't know you were heading out east, get a good job offer out there? That sounds like quite a trip. Luckily, when I moved out to AZ, my company paid for everything and I didn't have to think about driving the 4runner out here.

I've got an auto tranny from Cebby's 4runner that I'm thinking of getting rid of. Looking forward to the pictures and keep us posted about life out there.

Seanz0rz
06-01-2008, 12:01 AM
glad to see you got there in mostly one piece. look forward to your pictures.

elripster
06-01-2008, 06:07 AM
Yeah I got a good job with Argonne National Labs outside of Chicago.

They paid for one car and most of the furniture. (I wasn't married when they made the offer so maybe they didn't account for more stuff?) Since I had to move out here before Claire's teaching contract was up I brought stuff. One of my bikes doesn't run so I had to move that one no matter what.

Just watch, we'll be within the weight limit they agreed to ship after all... That would so be my luck.

Tedium, that is actually a great word for most of this trip. Much was very unscenic and boring. It was much like driving California's central valley for a long long time.

Frank

elripster
06-01-2008, 06:09 AM
I should add that this trip is reimbursed so I actually made money moving the truck and stuff out here as long as the truck doesn't break anytime soon as a result. (crossing fingers...)

Frank

fustercluck
06-01-2008, 07:16 AM
Glad to read that the odyssey is over and that you are none the worse for the wear. Your account was an entertaining read...leaves me wanting for more. Thanks Frank!

RobG
06-01-2008, 10:06 AM
Great writeup, I was actually having flashbacks of driving the Grapevine. Glad you made it safely, all of us 3.0 owners feel your pain.

For some reason I thought you were headed for a job at an automotive company, what will you be doing at Argonne?

Robinhood4x4
06-01-2008, 10:20 AM
all of us 3.0 owners feel your pain.

That's for sure.

slosurfer
06-01-2008, 10:23 AM
all of us 3.0 owners feel your pain.


ditto, especially those of us with the automatic paired to it! :D

corax
06-01-2008, 05:00 PM
Good deal on the succesful roadtrip. :good;

Not to thread jack, but do you know if US 40 the flattest route east? What about the 80 or 90 up in Wyoming? I'll be making a full caravan trip back east myself at the end of summer - the wife gets the '88runner with a 5x8 3500lb trailer (engine gets a might toasty pulling up hills) and I get the RV and car/dolly.

habanero
06-01-2008, 05:37 PM
A) They were staring because they couldn't believe that......could/would/did pull that.

B) Welcome to the midwest

C) Now change yer locale, already! :flipoff:

jrallan26
06-02-2008, 11:07 PM
Reading your account of your road trip gave me flashbacks to my own odessy(sp.). 13 years ago I moved from Redondo Beach, CA to Des Moines, Iowa. Luckily I didnt haul that much...

paddlenbike
06-03-2008, 10:02 AM
Frank,
Sorry to see you two leaving our area. I take you and Claire won't be at Pismo this year?

I drive that same I-40 route every few years to get out to Sedona, just south of Flagstaff. There was one year in particular that I remember--it was HOT, I was loaded for a week for mountain biking and I was carrying a cab-over camper on the back of the truck up that 150-mile grade that starts just out of Kingman and runs all the way to Flagstaff. At the time I had the 3.0/5-speed combo and was attempting to keep up with girls in a supercharged T100 that were driving 85-90 MPH the whole way. Between the heat, elevation, grade and a heavy load with all the windage of the camper, I pretty much left it at 90-100% for the two hours it took to reach Flagstaff. The girls would be waiting at every fuel stop, wondering why I was only driving 70-75MPH. I'm pretty sure an unloaded S/C 3.4 climbs grades better than a loaded 3.0. I remember the fuel mileage was dismal, at best. For what it's worth, I have never seen any long term side effects from running my Toyotas at 100% throttle for long periods of time.

elripster
06-06-2008, 07:17 PM
Good deal on the succesful roadtrip. :good;

Not to thread jack, but do you know if US 40 the flattest route east? What about the 80 or 90 up in Wyoming? I'll be making a full caravan trip back east myself at the end of summer - the wife gets the '88runner with a 5x8 3500lb trailer (engine gets a might toasty pulling up hills) and I get the RV and car/dolly.


I think it is. I have made the trip in reverse from Flint Michigan to San Diego taking the 80/70 route through the upper midwest (Iowa, Nebraska,....) and that goes over the Rockies. Now this was in a V8 Grand Cherokee so power was not an issue. I think, however, you hit like 11000 feet over the Rockies and I did not want to face that in the 4runner.

Frank

elripster
06-06-2008, 07:24 PM
Frank,
Sorry to see you two leaving our area. I take you and Claire won't be at Pismo this year?

I drive that same I-40 route every few years to get out to Sedona, just south of Flagstaff. There was one year in particular that I remember--it was HOT, I was loaded for a week for mountain biking and I was carrying a cab-over camper on the back of the truck up that 150-mile grade that starts just out of Kingman and runs all the way to Flagstaff. At the time I had the 3.0/5-speed combo and was attempting to keep up with girls in a supercharged T100 that were driving 85-90 MPH the whole way. Between the heat, elevation, grade and a heavy load with all the windage of the camper, I pretty much left it at 90-100% for the two hours it took to reach Flagstaff. The girls would be waiting at every fuel stop, wondering why I was only driving 70-75MPH. I'm pretty sure an unloaded S/C 3.4 climbs grades better than a loaded 3.0. I remember the fuel mileage was dismal, at best. For what it's worth, I have never seen any long term side effects from running my Toyotas at 100% throttle for long periods of time.


Ah yes... Pismo... I have a plan which involves getting a second truck to leave at my folk's place in Vista. There are some caveats that might prevent this but right now it looks good. Actually, with gas prices rising, truck prices are falling so it looks really good. Otherwise, we might just come out and see if someone will let us ride along. I think I'll find another truck though.

Now, about working in the auto industry, well I pretty much still do. I work for the Center for Transportation research, Advanced Vehicle Technologies to be specific. So, I'm still working on the same stuff I did while earning my graduate degree, hybrids, fuel cells, all that stuff. I am a technical coordinator so my main job is to manage the collegiate advanced vehicle engineering competitions of which I was a part for 3.5 years. It's a really fun job and I work with awesome people.

Argonne was the back drop for Chain Reaction with Keaneau Reeves.

http://www.anl.gov/Media_Center/Chain_Reaction/chainandme.html


Frank

elripster
06-06-2008, 07:42 PM
Get this, they are covering all the weight overages as far as shipping the rest of our stuff and Claire's car. I just knew that was going to happen. Oh the irony.

Monday I am rounding up some coworkers to help me lift the motorcycels out of the trailer 'cause I'll finally have the keys to our new place. No more Lisle Marriott for me.

Frank

paddlenbike
06-07-2008, 05:43 PM
Otherwise, we might just come out and see if someone will let us ride along.

You two always have an invitation to ride with us. You'll have to come up to northern CA sometime to experience our wonderful mountain wheeling.