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Bob98SR5
06-05-2008, 12:48 AM
if you know me, you know how i feel about the jury system and the justice system in general here in this country. if you dont know, here's how i feel:

money + political power + celebrity (sports, movie star, etc) + race + stupid jurors + admissable evidence + slimy lawyers willing to lie = acquittal

jury of peers is such bull###t. pick the stupidest people who dont work and have no jobs or look like the defendant and thats the people who will judge you. i betcha there are people who even volunteer because they've seen all the f'g re-runs of judge brown, judy, etc.

admissable evidence: there's always some bs scum lawyer who is just smart enough to get the judge to rule out evidence that will nail their rapsheet-a-mile-long murdering POS that the jury will need to erase from their minds and only judge the defendent based on how well the lawyer can act and present his/her case vs solid, tangible evidence. a theater, if you will.

this is such crap. i did not have to report for 3 days and i get called to report on the 1 year anniversary at my job. my boss' boss planned a somewhat large get together for me w/ my co-workers to celebrate the 1 year

gotta get my ass up at 630am too. this sucks.

Seanz0rz
06-05-2008, 01:05 AM
jeeze bob, take a fricken chill pill... :chill:

they keep sending letters as often as they can, but im always in school, so i can get out of it usually.

i agree with you though.

i think we should elect jurors like we do judges, a pool of a 100 or so, randomly selected from a jar at the start of the trial. etc, etc etc.

also, if there is a mountain of evidence, and the state is 100% positive they commited a violent act, many eye witnesses, etc. just take em out back and shoot em...

xonetruthcrewx
06-05-2008, 01:17 AM
Jury duty letter comes in the mail. Jury duty letter goes into trash. Done.

04 Rocko Taco
06-05-2008, 07:03 AM
I liked Jury duty when I got the letter, course I didnt get picked on the trial cause it was a black guy who shot three people in the face, and I happen to be more like the victims than the defendant, and I agree with the death penalty, so you know Iw as out. lol.

tulsa_sr5
06-05-2008, 09:06 AM
I don't know what it is but I've been called 4 times in the last 12 years. Denver wasn't bad, one day, maybe one trial but most likely get sent home early. Tulsa however, they get you for the week. It's possible to sit on several trials, and likely to go thru jury selection several times for different trials. The last time was in family court, mostly trials for the county trying to revoke parental rights. After that week I was very, very impressed with the judges and the process. They bend over backwards to try and keep families together, and if it made it to trial it was obvious the parent didn't really want rights but for whatever reason wasn't going to just sign the paper.

The one trial we almost sat on was a mother busted for meth. She had failed several times to get clean, and was going to use the classic 'meth makes me a better mother' defense to try and get her kids back. Guess she decided at the last second to just sign away her rights and let the kids be adopted.

4runnerchevy
06-05-2008, 09:25 AM
I would have to agree with Bob on the injustice system. I am lucky enough to have an employer who pays up to 10 days of wages for jury duty. My young daughter gets me outta the process, so I have never been (if the courts only knew I get paid for duty). I also have a father-in-law who is a deputy and has to arrest people who get warrants for not responding to jury duty (not his favorite part of the job).

Good luck with the duty and hope its a short experience.

Tankota
06-05-2008, 09:33 AM
Isnt there a way to be excused for financial hardship.
Last time I got called for duty I sat on a case for two weeks. It was pretty interesting though and I'm glad for the experience.
The case was a US Border Patrol agent that shot and illegal Mexican at nearly point plank, while the illegal was trying to heave a huge rock at his head.

4runnerchevy
06-05-2008, 09:44 AM
I am pretty sure you can get out of it once, but they send another one in 6 months. I always just say I am the sole provider for my family. The notice says if you don't recieve a reply to your excuse then your excused. I have never gotten a reply to my excuse. I have a friend who checks the Felon box and never gets bothered, even though he is not a Felon and has his rights.

paddlenbike
06-05-2008, 10:42 AM
Don't pull a no-show, the judge has the discretion to issue a warrant for your arrest. You are allowed one postponement per year, no questions asked. I suggest you ask to be rescheduled later this year. I have done this numerous times and once or twice they never got around to rescheduling me for that year.

I keep trying to get on a case but they usually either settle out of court or select a full jury + backups before I ever get to do my civic duty.

Lee
06-05-2008, 11:31 AM
you dont wanna be on a multi day jury case!!

i was in the dumbest one ever, a bum who pinched a girl's ass... being charged by the state, not the girl.

he had a terrible state lawyer who dragged it out for 3 days on the following defense: the girl told the police that the man who pinched her ass had a mustache. the attorney claimed he did not have a mustache that day. guess what the guy had WHILE IN COURT... A MUSTACHE!

the guy was even wearing the exact clothes that she described him wearing on tape from that day!!

waste of 3 days.

oly884
06-05-2008, 12:29 PM
I have yet to receive jury duty. It's weird, but my buddies have had to go quite a few times now.

Bob98SR5
06-05-2008, 03:21 PM
jeeze bob, take a fricken chill pill... :chill:

they keep sending letters as often as they can, but im always in school, so i can get out of it usually.

i agree with you though.

i think we should elect jurors like we do judges, a pool of a 100 or so, randomly selected from a jar at the start of the trial. etc, etc etc.

also, if there is a mountain of evidence, and the state is 100% positive they commited a violent act, many eye witnesses, etc. just take em out back and shoot em...


when you have work obligations that are more serious, a mortgage, you know serious bills, you will understand, college boy :flipoff:

i was told as was my jury pool to return tomorrow morning 11am. wonder-f'g-ful. i hate this b.s.

of note, the defendant has an afro the size of tookie williams.

fustercluck
06-05-2008, 04:38 PM
Tookie has left the building.....

slosurfer
06-05-2008, 05:10 PM
Hey Bob, don't you own your own business? I always write in that I am self-employed and the only income for the household, therefore we can not afford to have me sitting in a chair for pennies a day. It has always gotten me out of it, (knock on wood).

neliconcept
06-05-2008, 06:15 PM
i freakin dread the day.

my dad had to do head jury one day, and the evidence was easy, the guy killed a guy, but this stupid women in the jury refused to believe it, so it went on for a week, and my dad was about to commit murder to solve a murder. i laughed when he said that.

Bob98SR5
06-05-2008, 06:22 PM
Hey Bob, don't you own your own business? I always write in that I am self-employed and the only income for the household, therefore we can not afford to have me sitting in a chair for pennies a day. It has always gotten me out of it, (knock on wood).


Yup i do own a business but i do not want to take the risk of being caught. then they'd put me on capital jury trials for the rest of my life! :hillbill: but seriously, I wrote that in as a request to get out 2 yrs ago and they denied it.

oh and get this: i met a woman there who lives in pasadena. there is a large county courthouse in pasadena. guess where she got assigned? yup, downtown LA :rolleyes: F'G GOVERNMENT PEOPLE

neliconcept
06-05-2008, 09:32 PM
Hey Bob, don't you own your own business? I always write in that I am self-employed and the only income for the household, therefore we can not afford to have me sitting in a chair for pennies a day. It has always gotten me out of it, (knock on wood).


Yup i do own a business but i do not want to take the risk of being caught. then they'd put me on capital jury trials for the rest of my life! :hillbill: but seriously, I wrote that in as a request to get out 2 yrs ago and they denied it.

oh and get this: i met a woman there who lives in pasadena. there is a large county courthouse in pasadena. guess where she got assigned? yup, downtown LA :rolleyes: F'G GOVERNMENT PEOPLE


was she hot?

xonetruthcrewx
06-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Like I said in my other post. Just throw it away and dont go. Unless you sign for your jury duty notice, they have no proof that it actually made it to you. Deny til death.

BruceTS
06-05-2008, 09:55 PM
Like I said in my other post. Just throw it away and dont go. Unless you sign for your jury duty notice, they have no proof that it actually made it to you. Deny til death.


Until you get pulled over and the cop arrest you for a warrant that was filed for no show. That's what happened to one of the guys at work. Then he had to appear in front of the judge and answer why he didn't respond to the notices. His excuse that he didn't get them didn't fly..... I forget how much he had to pay in fines, but he said he'd never toss them away again. I thought the same thing and used to toss them as well........ with that said there is a way not to get another summons ever again. Don't ask because many here won't like the answer.

4runnerchevy
06-05-2008, 10:31 PM
with that said there is a way not to get another summons ever again. Don't ask because many here won't like the answer.


I must ask ! Who gives a :flipoff: wether or not they like the answer.

corax
06-06-2008, 12:09 AM
Ha, when I was living in Hampton/Norfolk, Virginia, Pennsylvania kept sending me Jury Summons until I wrote back and let them know what it would cost them to get me up there just based on mileage and their own reimbursement per mile (~350 miles) . . .

Tankota
06-06-2008, 11:27 PM
Don't ask because many here won't like the answer.


Now that you got us all curious :chair:

Bob98SR5
06-06-2008, 11:43 PM
in the past 2 days, we have not even selected the jury. its maddening how slow these inefficient @#$@#$ are. i have to return on monday.