Tess Is Lifted!!!!

[YotaFun]

Here is just a preview...
You will get the whole low down when I get back from work:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03920.jpg

:clap:

Edit Rocko: Fixed Title

[04 Rocko Taco]

Lookin Good Avy!

Good work J and K!!

[callmej75]

Whatta weekend...looks good with the red wrinkle on the lift!

[YotaFun]

At work right now posting from my phone.

Like J said, what a weekend.

There will be a full report of what we did, what problems we encontered, what we did to fix them and future warning for anyone else doing this lift.

I cannot that J and Katy enough for the effort they put into helping Tess grow up a little more.

Welp, back to work!

[Lee]

sweet, what lift is in it?

time for some new meats... looks good man.

[YotaFun]

Sonran Steel 1.51.

Current 1.2 lift with the rubicon Express rear lower links :D

[freefallmarine]

Great Stuff Avy!!!!!!

[YotaGirl]

Looks great, Avy!

[Erich_870]

waiting... waiting... are you home yet!?

Looks great! :thumbup:

Erich

[4Runner202020]

rubicon express lower links???? arn't those for jeeps. i need info on these please. lol

looks good though!!

bobby

[4runnerchevy]

Looks good ! There are some big voids between the tire and fender though!

[YotaFun]

On break now in the truck.
I don't get off till 9.

I will show you the link on Sonorans site later on the links.

Trust me I am itching to get home and tell you all the saga the Katy, J and I went through.

There was a lot of cursing and the usual blood sweat and tears.

~Avy


P.S. I am undecided on tires, I don't think I can afford the shaved a-arms till after NE takeover and I do want 285, but might have to settle for 255...

[Lee]

you dont need to have shave a arms for 285s... i had 305s and didnt shave mine.

[YotaFun]

Where you still on stock rims?

[JWBehm]

Its really close, I had to sand them down a tiny bit on my 99 4Runner with a 2.5" lift but i could fit 285s with stock rims. I would just get a .25" spacer from pep boys and longer studs if you have a problem.

[callmej75]

I think if he goes any wider with spacers, he will be in ticket heaven where he lives. Time for the flares!

[kmcc78240]

Looks great.

[YotaFun]

So I am showered and relaxed.
Let the saga begin.

As most of you may know I have had my lift in my possession since the beginning of October 2007.
I originally didn't think about getting the lift coated.
I was more waiting to collect the tire and rim package before I put it on.

However, when I went to See Katy and J for there wedding, and he did my Toyota emblem for my Satoshi mod in this very cool wrinkle red, and after seeing that and J throwing out the idea of doing the lift that way, I was sold!

So finally, this past weekend, I requested off from work, talked to J and made arrangements for going down, and then loaded the truck with my tool box, jack stands, various fluids and grease, and a change of cloths and the lift and prepared for my 6 hour trek to VA.

Day 1: Friday
Its 430 in the morning, I slept about 4 hours the night before cause I was so excited about this weekend.
I showered and loaded a cooler, kissed my mom goodbye and got in the truck.
Started her up and finally left the house around 530.
I had already gassed up the night before so I headed straight to the highway.
Cops where everywhere Friday so I had to take my time, however there was one point in the trip that through my playlist shuffle, East Bound and down came on and I found myself speeding up lol!
Also, half trip when I refueled, I decided to put plus in, as some of you may have known I have been getting some bad gas mileage at a steady 15mpg city and highway, well, with the plus, I jumped back up to 20mpg highway, anyone know why?
I thought on the 3.4l it really didn't matter what octane I was putting in?

Anyway, lets get to the good stuff.
I arrived at J's around 1130, got in and just sat down for a bit, 6 hours is a long drive, and that last hour felt like it took forever!
He showed me around and pointed out his new 55 gallon saltwater tank, that is freakin awesome, a work in progress, but its farther then I could ever go and heck, clown fish rule!
So then we go get the lift out of the truck to start stripping the coils, J explained to me the coating on the springs is really really hard to strip off, and I learned this quickly:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03874.jpg
That was a tundra coils, those where the hardest coils, Katy can attest to this as you will see later ;)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03874.jpg
The LC Coils where easier, a lot easier!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03859.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03864.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03862.jpg

Then we get the the lower links striped as well as teh pan hard bar and blasted as well:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03861.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03863.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03866.jpg
J explaining how he is going to hang the pan hard bar:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03865.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03873.jpg

Then it was time to go pick up Katy from work :clap:
She got to help us out the rest of the night:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03867.jpg
I quickly learned that she really hates doing coils, and I think at the end of the weekend, Katy, J, and I are all in agreement COILS STINK!
See, she looks really mad here lol:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03871.jpg

I told them, if I was a girl, and they couldn't have kids, I would bare kids for them, cause I can not thank them enough.

So finally after the rear components were completely clean and blasted, J started to coat them and I gotta say I LOVE that wrinkle red.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03868.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03869.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03870.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03872.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03875.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03877.jpg

Since it was around 10PM now, we decided to call it a night, had some pizza and I for the first time finally saw "A house of a 1000 corpses"

I slept on the sofa, it was great, and again, thank you Katy and J!

Day 2: Saturday
Started off at 9-930, had breakfast, eggs, bacon and potatoes with toast, greatest breakfast I have had in a looong time, even though J kept critiquing Katy lol.

So we pulled the truck into a lot across the street, and while Katy continued to work on stripping the tundra coils, me and J started to get the rear broken down.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03880.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03879.jpg
Oh and did I mention I HATE RUST!!!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03881.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03882.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03886.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03885.jpg

We don't have to many pics of installing the rear components cause we were all tied up.
but here is the finish product:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03887.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03888.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03905.jpg

Then we pull the truck around to get started on tearing down the front when the rain starts:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03890.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03889.jpg

Now remember how I said we hated coils? Well:
We had got compressors from J's neighbor, and if I had known they where cheapo compressors I would have just gone to Advanced down the street and got good ones.
Needless to say we got the old setup apart after Grinding:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03893.jpg
Banging in the new studs barely:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03898.jpg
And welding on cause we stripped it:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03896.jpg

After that, we went upstairs, had some chicken and corn on the cob, watch the sequel to Friday nights movie and where I feel asleep early.

Day Three: Sunday
Woke up a little later today, thinking it would be a little easier, HA, I should have knocked on wood.

We had left the compressors on one of the springs that ended up bending a wee bit.
And my mom and step dad ended up coming over to see what was going on and saving us by taking me to go get the good spring compressors.
Katy was thee girl of the hour actually getting one of the bent compressors off on her own, and trust me, J and I weren't having any luck (will be up loading a vid later to prove Katy in fact was wrenching this weekend, despite J and I trying to be all manly and doing most of the work, she was always itching to get dirty :D )

So we got the coils assembled:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03900.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03903.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03901.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03899.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03902.jpg

And then put them in:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03906.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03908.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03909.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03907.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03911.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03912.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03913.jpg

[YotaFun]

And then we tired to get started on the diff drop but it started to rain again:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03915.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03914.jpg

So We just put the tires back on and I will do the diff drop before I hit the trials at Takeover:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03917.jpg
Yes, We did it all:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03918.jpg

I don't have the energy right now to go nit picking at all the trials and such, tomorrow I will get to that tomorrow.

Again I could not thank Katy and J enough for 1) housing me 2) coating my lift 3)helping me put it one and 4) keeping me grounded.

Again more will come tomorrow :thumbup:

P.S. I can not run spacers here in PA, they are illegal.
Plus like J said I can't go any wider or I will get another ticket, I am already putting my stock flares back on...

[callmej75]

You HAD to get a close up of my bald spot DIDN'T YOU!

Oh....and the diff drop pic is only showing up 1/4 way for me...anyone else?

[JWBehm]

Oh ok. I dug up an old pic from when i first lifted mine, they didnt go anywhere near outside the flares with OEM wheels and 285s
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/jwbehm/CIMG0157.jpg

Lift looks awesome man, I wish i had gone to the trouble to paint my coils. Cant wait to see it with new meats

[YotaFun]

That was allll Katy! lol
are all the pictures loading for everyone cause only half of them are for me

[JWBehm]

yeah only the first half load for me

[slosurfer]

You HAD to get a close up of my bald spot DIDN'T YOU!

Oh....and the diff drop pic is only showing up 1/4 way for me...anyone else?


Is this the "bald spot" you were talking about? I wish this pic only loaded 1/4 of the way for me, I saw way too much of J! :laugh:



http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03916.jpg





Yotafun, the truck looks great especially with the powdercoated pieces. Now get some real man size tires on there. :thumbup:

[Lee]

uhhhh... is that a scrotum shot in that last pic there :lol:

well done guys :)

[callmej75]

Avy....check the pics before uploading! I'm gonna kill Katy..

I really can't stop laughing though

[reggie 00]

I really didnt want to be the one to point that out.

[slosurfer]

That lift is nuts!

[MasterWIII]

That lift is nuts!


Well, there went my drink onto my computer from laughing!

[YotaGirl]

Good job on the install! It looks great!

[corax]

Looks like a weekend well spent. :thumbup:

[Erich_870]

Thankfully I missed the scrotum in the beginning, thanks for pointing it out Slo :spit: I was too busy laughing that Avy is willing to bear J's children, better watch your back Katy :tongueout: You might have said you'd step up if J wasn't able to seal the deal, not carry his child!! :lol: :rofl:

Kissing your mom to start the road trip was a nice touch too :love: :rofl:

The lift looks great, I'm jealous, just no more :gay2: pics please :D

Erich

[slosurfer]

This song goes perfect with this thread:

Music Video (http://maniacworld.com/Sing-a-long-testicular-cancer.html)

[YotaFun]

Well I just woke up to see these post and all I can say is:
WOOPS!

You all have to remember that the past 2 days I have been running on 4 hours or less of sleep so....

I am also trying to edit the post and break it up a bit so it will load better but the site keeps freezing on me, maybe I can get some moderator help.

P.S. My mom is the shit! I wouldn't have a 4Runner if it wasn't for her and my step dad. lol

[YotaFun]

Is this the "bald spot" you were talking about? I wish this pic only loaded 1/4 of the way for me, I saw way too much of J! :laugh:


Only you would notice the first sexual shot of the thread lol!
I completely didn't notice until you pointed it out!

[slosurfer]

Is this the "bald spot" you were talking about? I wish this pic only loaded 1/4 of the way for me, I saw way too much of J! :laugh:


Only you would notice the first sexual shot of the thread lol!
I completely didn't notice until you pointed it out!


:lol: I wouldn't have noticed it either, except J specifically asked if that pic was only loading 1/4 of the way. I noticed it when I went back later to see if the pics were loading, lol. I think J knew about it and was trying to draw attention to it, lol. :flipoff:

[callmej75]

I wish I knew before you posted....but unfortunately i didn't! It seriously only loaded 1/4 of the way.

I think its all a conspiracy...

[iceman601]

Looking good :thumbup:....Is that the same wrinkle red I got? :D How did the powder coated coils hold up against the spring compressor?

[slosurfer]

I wish I knew before you posted....but unfortunately i didn't! It seriously only loaded 1/4 of the way.

I think its all a conspiracy...



:lol: :lol: By the way, the term "wrinkle red" just took on a whole new meaning in this thread. :tapedshut: :laugh:

[YotaFun]

:lol: I wouldn't have noticed it either, except J specifically asked if that pic was only loading 1/4 of the way. I noticed it when I went back later to see if the pics were loading, lol. I think J knew about it and was trying to draw attention to it, lol. :flipoff:


I was having problems with my photobucket so even j didn't know lol!



I wish I knew before you posted....but unfortunately i didn't! It seriously only loaded 1/4 of the way.

I think its all a conspiracy...


It's All Katy's Idea!



Looking good :thumbup:....Is that the same wrinkle red I got? :D How did the powder coated coils hold up against the spring compressor?


Yes sir it is the same wrinkle red as on your intake manifold and valve covers (still waiting to see them on :flipoff: )

[YotaFun]

I wish I knew before you posted....but unfortunately i didn't! It seriously only loaded 1/4 of the way.

I think its all a conspiracy...



:lol: :lol: By the way, the term "wrinkle red" just took on a whole new meaning in this thread. :tapedshut: :laugh:


LMAO!!!
You owe me lunch and a new keyboard!

[Seanz0rz]

first, there was a nut picture and i missed it?!?! damnit!

looks good avy, glad i could help on the panhard bar.

[YotaFun]

first, there was a nut picture and i missed it?!?! damnit!

looks good avy, glad i could help on the panhard bar.


First off, You would want to see a nut pic.......hmmm....

Second, thanks so much, and thank you Jenn for getting me his number, I love the family we have here :-P

[YotaGirl]

first, there was a nut picture and i missed it?!?! damnit!

looks good avy, glad i could help on the panhard bar.


First off, You would want to see a nut pic.......hmmm....

Second, thanks so much, and thank you Jenn for getting me his number, I love the family we have here :-P



LOL this thread keeps getting better and better! :D




I was glad I was home to help you out, Avy!

[callmej75]

All because of my nuts....

Sorry Avy for drawing the attention from the lift!

[YotaFun]

According to Katy, they are some fine nuts lol!

[Seanz0rz]

im just wondering why avy had nut pics at all... i call shenanigans on the story that katy took those pictures, sounds fishy to me.

[YotaFun]

Sean, if you had seen the picture, I was next to jay, we were under the truck trying to loosen the diff nuts...'

[slosurfer]

first, there was a nut picture and i missed it?!?! damnit!


Sean, check out post #23 since you are so determined to see nuts. :gay2:

[YotaFun]

Chris I deleted the photo from my photobucket, unless you saved it in your own files for personal use, its not gonna be there.

[callmej75]

I think Chris just likes the way my nuts brighten up the page... :flipoff:

[YotaFun]

How is it that j's nuts over power my thread, it was my nuts ( well tech my fathers nuts) that ultimatly got ME the truck lol!

[waskillywabbit]

Glad I missed the nuts...the face was bad enough. :flipoff:

:guitar:

[slosurfer]

Chris I deleted the photo from my photobucket, unless you saved it in your own files for personal use, its not gonna be there.


That's funny, it was still showing up in my quote till just a little while ago. :laugh:

[YotaFun]

Chris I deleted the photo from my photobucket, unless you saved it in your own files for personal use, its not gonna be there.


I swear, its because us saved it and posted it on your own lol!

That's funny, it was still showing up in my quote till just a little while ago. :laugh:

[YotaFun]

Well, upon reviewing the PDF file supplied by NakSuKow, (Thank You!) I need to take my springs apart and put them back together the proper way.
I was wondering why the stud was sticking up so high...
I forgot to put the retainer and cushions under neath the top out plate.

I took off July 12th, So I will do it then...

speaking of which, where are the cushions and retainers for the front shocks?
They were not included in my package and the stock ones don't fit over...

I might have to order some I guess....

[callmej75]

I think the directions to the front need to be more clear

[YotaFun]

I think the directions to the front need to be more clear


Just a little J?
How much did you and I curse over those god forsaken coils...

[callmej75]

Well for two people that never saw them before or messed with them, I think it wasn't very well drawn out. The directions "assumed" we had messed with it before.

[YotaFun]

Yeah...
Well live and learn, but I got no love out of it lol!

[NakSuKow]

may i suggest you try this method.

http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3270

[YotaFun]

:eek:

Uh yeah...
I will read into that more and check out my set up.
New way of doing that for sure...

[NakSuKow]

I am going to try it when I throw on some new springs....just thought I would share.

[YotaFun]

Thanks.
Like I said reading up.
When are you changing your springs?

[NakSuKow]

When I finally mount up the front bumper and winch. I have an old pair of 882s on right now that will sag with that extra weight to be about 1" of lift.
Hopefully a couple weeks or so.

[YotaFun]

okay i was looking at this little endeavor a little more.
How exactly is one avoiding the spring compressors?

[Seanz0rz]

god guys, the front coils arent THAT hard!!!! even the first time i did them it wasnt that bad. and why is everyone so afraid of spring compressors?

also, i REALLY dont like assembling the struts on the vehicle like that... just personal preference, but i much rather use spring compressors than use a 4000 pound vehicle to assemble the struts.

[callmej75]

god guys, the front coils arent THAT hard!!!! even the first time i did them it wasnt that bad. and why is everyone so afraid of spring compressors?

also, i REALLY dont like assembling the struts on the vehicle like that... just personal preference, but i much rather use spring compressors than use a 4000 pound vehicle to assemble the struts.


Spring compressors are a PITA when your spring is coated a nice slick surface and it tends to slide on you every tightening turn you take. The compressors would grab onto the old coating.

Eh were just a bunch of idiots here Sean and you are much smarter than us! Maybe someday we can be like you...

[YotaFun]

Especially if they are a cheap @$$ pair of compressors like the ones J's neighbor had.
Also positioning them just right so you can get them out once the spring is completely compressed is a PITA too.

I am not afraid of them Sean, I just hate working with them.

[callmej75]

Nah I wasn't skeered...cutting one of the compressors off and it being fully compressed is enough for me!

[YotaFun]

Nah I wasn't skeered...cutting one of the compressors off and it being fully compressed is enough for me!


Uh yeah that was just yeah...

[Euphorickaty80]

Ok time for my two cents!!! :clap:

1) Avy is a great guy, we had a really good time having him over for the weekend! Cant wait to see ya again man!! :bowdown:

2) I HATE coils.....(that one is for you Avy) :flipoff:

3) Thanks to Avy and his parents for the Pizza :thumbup:

4) Sorry to my Hubby for the "nut shot" it was totally unintentional, I swear :rofl:

5) A sarcastic thanks to Avy for taking the worst possible pics of me and posting them on the site :chair:

But seriously, it was a great way to spend the weekend! Especially working in the rain, it was funny seeing Avy frolicking shirtless in a downpour :love:
I havent had that much fun and frustration all at the same time in a while. And whoever said the front wasnt that difficult, i wish you would have been there so you could have shown us how "easy" it could be......actually now that i think about it.....it probably would have been easier if we had a nice set of compressors instead of the POS ones we had to deal with!!

Katy.....out :tongueout:

[Seanz0rz]

i told avy i would come out and help if he paid for my plane ticket...

[YotaFun]

Maybe if I wasn't such a lead foot I would have saved up enough money, but oh well, my foot is just to heavy lol, ask J he has one to, right Katy! ;-)

[freefallmarine]

You know Avy, I think it's my turn to stop at J's for my lift. It seemed like it was alot of fun!

[YotaFun]

You know Avy, I think it's my turn to stop at J's for my lift. It seemed like it was alot of fun!


Meet you there!
They'll help you get it coated, and we'll help you put it on :-)

[freefallmarine]

Man, sound;s like a one stop shop! How could i resist?!

[YotaFun]

Well I tackled the diff drop about an hour ago, got that done in 5 mine, how easy it was.
But I have a few questions...
And excuse teh crappy cell phone picks, camera died....

One, Did I do it right?
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/IMG01231.jpg

And
Two, Why is one of the old studs painted and the other not, the one that is not painted was on the right, also I notice that the right lower control arm seems to be new, like it has the writing like someone pulled it from a junkyard or got it from the parts department, after 130K you would think it would be gone so that's why I think it was replaced....
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/IMG01236.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/IMG01235.jpg

Did Anyone else have one painted and one not?

[callmej75]

Looks as though you maybe had some front end damage before and the people fixed it, and sold it! If everything is straight and you seem to have no issues out of the front end, I wouldn't worry about it. Next time you are down I'll check it out for paint lines and what not to tell you if it has been damaged before and repaired prior to you getting it.

Diff drop looks to be right

[YotaFun]

Yeah, the car fax came back clean and nothing front end wise looked to be major when I looked at the maintenance records.
So I think if there was something, it was done under the table.
I have no issues, but it still ticks me off....

[callmej75]

Yeh it may have been done with no reports...if you had issues with alignment and funny noises in the front end all of the time, then I'd worry.

You should know not everyone is as truthful as we are about selling vehicles unless they actually care!

O yeh...bolt on right is stock, bolt on left is not. All the bolts with the white stuff on there is factory coating...for what i don't know?

[YotaFun]

Yeah.
Come to think of it the alignment was off when I got the truck (showed its ugly face later when the inside of the tires became bald).
But it aligned fine after I got new tires so...

I guess I just don't like the idea that it was in a wreck, poor girl.

[freefallmarine]

You would tell me though, right J? I won't say nuthing!

Looks as though you maybe had some front end damage before and the people fixed it, and sold it! If everything is straight and you seem to have no issues out of the front end, I wouldn't worry about it. Next time you are down I'll check it out for paint lines and what not to tell you if it has been damaged before and repaired prior to you getting it.

Diff drop looks to be right

[Seanz0rz]

the more and more i work on mine im convinced something happened to the front right corner, but who knows.

what i do know is that the bumper was NOT a toyota bumper...

[YotaFun]

Its been a while since I have updated this thread.
Figured I would let the rear settle....
But I think I may have an issue....

Is it just me or does the rear of my truck still look really raked?
Also the truck is a inch and a half higher due to body lift, and new meats are on there way by the end of the week:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04480.jpg

here is one with the GTI
not to much of a comparison but it might help the sight:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04486.jpg

I just feel the front is not high enough...

[YotaFun]

oh and that first picture make it look like the driveway is slanted to the left, but it is level with the roof line...

[2ndGen]

looks like you need some sand bags.

[YotaFun]

I was thinking the front needs a little lift....
Even with wight in the back and the rear compressed it still sits @$$ high!

I was thinking of possibly going with theses eventually:
http://toyteclifts.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=58610&category_id=71&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

Gonna go grab a shot of the CV angle and see if it looks like the truck is lifted at all in the front...

[4x4mike]

Is it just me or does the rear of my truck still look really raked?

Are you serious? That thing is raked to high heaven. IMO the gap in the rear wheel well should be at least half of what it is. Looks like you got rearended and everything shifted.

[Lee]

careful lifting the front too high.

but yeah definitely looks goofy with such a huge rake!

[4x4mike]

I was thinking the front needs a little lift....

Front looks too high for the tire size as well. How much body lift do you have? Are you planning on going with a bigger tire?

[YotaFun]

Are you serious? That thing is raked to high heaven. IMO the gap in the rear wheel well should be at least half of what it is. Looks like you got rearended and everything shifted.


This is not an optical illusion, that rear is raked!
I have been broadsided but not rear ended lol!



careful lifting the front too high.

but yeah definitely looks goofy with such a huge rake!


Oh I know for sure to be careful Lee, but it just doesn't look right....




I was thinking the front needs a little lift....

Front looks too high for the tire size as well. How much body lift do you have? Are you planning on going with a bigger tire?


Again Tire Size is changing soon, and the Body lift is a 1.5 Roger Brown

Going to be going with the 285/75/16 Tread Wright retreads with the ultra grip in them.

[YotaFun]

This first picture is as level as I could get it from sitting in front of it:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04487.jpg

These next two are with me sticking the camera right next to the frame to square it off:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04489.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04488.jpg

[YotaFun]

And yes i realize the right side has a torn boot...

[Seanz0rz]

mine was like this for about 6 months, but finally settled, and now im sitting level (thanks to the spare tire carrier)

do you have your spare tire installed in the stock location? that would sometimes give me up to an inch of lift in the rear.

im always using mine to carry heavy stuff: half a dozen extremely large bags of potting soil, about 50 pounds of tools (consistently) and then camping trips like mojave where i was carrying 60 pounds of water, 70 pounds of gasoline, plus all my other camping goods, and driving with that for nearly 200 miles across the desert. alot has contributed to the settling of the springs.

want to trade springs? ahhaaha

[4x4mike]

Again Tire Size is changing soon, and the Body lift is a 1.5 Roger Brown

Going to be going with the 285/75/16 Tread Wright retreads with the ultra grip in them.

That's a crazy amount of lift. IMO even for 285's. If I decided to go to 33's I was going to try to do it with my stock '99 springs with my airbags in the back and trim packers or custom spring spacer in the front. At worst I think I would need some small wheel spacers.

[slosurfer]

Want to come RAKE my yard? :laugh: Yeah definately looks a little funny. Load it up and keep it loaded for a couple weeks. :thumbup:

[YotaFun]

Guys you have to understand I keep a good 100lbs alone back there, it takes the max payload limit of 300lbs to get the springs to start to sag.
I have towed my GTI still no lean,
I have towed a loaded trailer with the max 300lb in the truck.
I don't know how much more it can settle.

I have jumped it a few time (not intentional)
I have wheeled at least 5 times with the lift and had it fully flexed.

I am not trying to knock you guys out but I think there is something wrong.

I have always had problems with the front springs, I assembled them wrong first, and even assembled right they sat low.

[Seanz0rz]

looking at your cv's, the lift looks appropriate for the front.

did you happen to take before and after measurements of the lift?

take some pictures of the rear coils please, top and bottom.

[YotaFun]

No I did not take any measurments cause stupid me was giddy the entire time getting it powder coated and on.

I have the GTI at the shop right now, tomorrow I will take pictures.

[Whitey]

Here is just a preview...
You will get the whole low down when I get back from work:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03920.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04480.jpg

Where did all the extra altitude come from between these 2 pictures?

[YotaFun]

truck is on the curb in the first pic, and the front is up hill, when it was flat it look like it looks in the second pic, also j's tools were in the back loading it up a lot.

[CJM]

Too high man..def to high..

And what did I say, we figured out it was hit long ago didnt we?

[YotaFun]

yeah bit it was hit in the front before the lift

[slosurfer]

Guys you have to understand I keep a good 100lbs alone back there, it takes the max payload limit of 300lbs to get the springs to start to sag.


:lol: My everyday load that is in my 4runner is probably closer to 200lbs (that's just my co2 tank, spare parts, tools, etc... Is 300#'s the payload limit? Put however much it takes to move the springs and leave it in there for a couple weeks. Putting your bumper and spare tire back on there will help give it some weight as well.

I don't know anything about your front end but it looks like your rear end has risen since you first put the lift on.

[YotaFun]

Hey Hey, I know I don't have a CO2 tank I am talking 100lb on top of the spare.
And if you look in the owners manual for the 3rd Gen 4Runner, the pay load limit for the rear cargo area is 300lbs
Bumper wouldn't matter much i can take that and toss it like a foot ball its so light.

Tomorrow after I adjust my rear brakes I will put the spare tire up top since it doesn't fit underneath anymore, and I will go get the two 200lb weights form the weight set down stairs and throw it in there and see what happens.
I wish I could find a pic of the truck after the lift without J's tools in it or it being on a curve.

[4x4mike]

Hey Hey, I know I don't have a CO2 tank I am talking 100lb on top of the spare.
And if you look in the owners manual for the 3rd Gen 4Runner, the pay load limit for the rear cargo area is 300lbs
Bumper wouldn't matter much i can take that and toss it like a foot ball its so light.

Tomorrow after I adjust my rear brakes I will put the spare tire up top since it doesn't fit underneath anymore, and I will go get the two 200lb weights form the weight set down stairs and throw it in there and see what happens.
I wish I could find a pic of the truck after the lift without J's tools in it or it being on a curve.




I've had 950 pounds of sand, brick and paving stones in mine. Actually I made 3 of those loads. Stock '99 springs and the air bags.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/mezamichael82/MISC/Photo0072-1.jpg

I'll have to look for the pictures of it in the back and a side view. It actually looks 99% stock with that load. Didn't drive 99% stock but who cares. I'm glad mine didn't come with an owners manual because I probably wouldn't have any fun with the 4runner.

[YotaFun]

That is a lot of s....tuff....
I have had plenty of heavy loads,
just not comfortable going over the 300Lb limit.
Did it once and it was scary as anything, granted it was on stock worn suspension...

[Crinale]

you should be fine going over the 300 lbs as long as you position it over the rear axle (not behind it)... cuz then the weight wont be taking away from traction in the front ;)

[20005spd]

my truck has a rake to it with LC coils, with small tires you can notice it and it looks kinda dumb, but when you get larger tires it looks much better.

[4x4mike]

Each paver is 20 pounds, each brick is 5.5 pounds and the sand are 60 pound bags I think.
In front of the bricks are the pavers up to the backs of the seat. My 4runner is usually stock '99 height without the load.

This looks like 420 pounds just in sand.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/mezamichael82/House/DSC06371.jpg

I think it looked normal going down the road
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/mezamichael82/House/DSC06368.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/mezamichael82/House/DSC06369.jpg

[slosurfer]

That is a lot of s....tuff....
I have had plenty of heavy loads,
just not comfortable going over the 300Lb limit.
Did it once and it was scary as anything, granted it was on stock worn suspension...


Ummmm.... you realize you can throw the stock requirement out the window since you upgraded your coils?! Just like Mike has since he upgraded to air bags. There's a big difference in handling with upgraded coils, 400#'s, and a level truck, when compared to stock worn coils, 300#'s, and almost sitting on the bumpstops.

[YotaFun]

Your right Chris, but I just like to be on the safe side.
Now that the truck is lifted I guess I feel that is just enough to hold back there.

New pictures:
Sean for you the springs:
Left:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04493.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04494.jpg
Right:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04495.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04496.jpg

Here is the stuff that has been with me since I lifted the truck:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04490.jpg

Here is with the spare on:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04492.jpg

And Spare off again for reference:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04491.jpg

[YotaFun]

I don't know maybe I am just going crazy..

[MasterWIII]

Those poor people that sit in the back better buckle up so they don't slide forward. :D

[YotaFun]

Those poor people that sit in the back better buckle up so they don't slide forward. :D


Nah, there cloth seats, they will be fine, now if I had the leather interior like on my GTI, forget about it, they would have weak legs by the time the trip was over trying to keep themselves back lol

[Seanz0rz]

get those bumpstops out of there and that will drop that rear end by a good amount.

[YotaFun]

get those bumpstops out of there and that will drop that rear end by a good amount.


Don't I need that bump stop in there?
Especially if I ever want to do airbags?

[Seanz0rz]

you have the bumpstops on the frame, thats all you need (thats all i have, i never had any sort of conical bumpstop in the coil)

save them for when you want to do airbags (when it gets to that point the coils will have settled like mine and the vehicle will be setting level or high in the front)

also cant tell from the pic but make sure the coils are fully seated on the perches on the axle. my left one was up about 3/4 an inch from the coil stop and was causing SOME of my leaning issues (it still leans, whatever)

[Crinale]

pull the bumpstops, and as 20005spd said, put the big tires on it and it wont be nearly as noticeable...

[YotaFun]

Alright, I will get it to the shop next week and get them out

[Whitey]

and I will go get the two 200lb weights form the weight set down stairs and throw it in there and see what happens.

Whoa, you have a weight set with 200# weights?

[corax]

Meh, just take a torch to the rear coils till they sit at the height you want J/K :roll:


O/T - when did I miss you getting sliders on? If I'd have known I could have lent you my bender to twist up some tube.

[YotaFun]

O/T - when did I miss you getting sliders on? If I'd have known I could have lent you my bender to twist up some tube.


Month after that Winter Run we took.
My friend just picked up an air actuated bender.
He says if I buy at least one die for it, I can use it as much as I want.
Famous last words.
I am already measuring for bumpers and to redo the sliders in a different style but slightly same design

[callmej75]

Here is just a preview...
You will get the whole low down when I get back from work:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC03920.jpg

To me, looks like the front has went down a little and the rear maybe came up a little as well...
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Nighthief/4Runner/The%20Lift/DSC04480.jpg

Where did all the extra altitude come from between these 2 pictures?

[corax]

Where did all the extra altitude come from between these 2 pictures?


Must be the weight from removing the rear bumper :roll:

[slosurfer]

Where did all the extra altitude come from between these 2 pictures?


Now that you mention it, you were leaning on it in the first pic. How much do you weigh? :laugh:

[20005spd]

you need a rear bumper and some bigger tires and it wont look silly any more, end of story :D

[YotaFun]

the bumper off is not making my ass end ride higher guys.
I have weight in the back helping it now.
Bigger tires are gonna be ordered soon since I need them to pass inspection.

[slosurfer]

The bumper being off is making it look much higher. When you look at the pic when the lift was just done and then the ones you have now. Look at the front of the rear fender in relation to the rear tire, it has not changed much at all. Removing that bumper has made the back look even higher than it actually is.

It's the same with the second gens, removing the stock bumper and putting a tube bumper on it makes the back look much higher.

[Seanz0rz]

if youre putting a heavy rear bumper on, then i wouldnt worry about the springs until you get that sucker on. its amazing what a few hundred pounds of metal 2 feet past the rear axle will do!

[Whitey]

The bumper being off is making it look much higher. When you look at the pic when the lift was just done and then the ones you have now. Look at the front of the rear fender in relation to the rear tire, it has not changed much at all. Removing that bumper has made the back look even higher than it actually is.

It's the same with the second gens, removing the stock bumper and putting a tube bumper on it makes the back look much higher.

I disagree with you. When I look at the rear tire in relation to the frame, it looks noticably higher in the second pic, IMO. Being parked on the curb may have something to do with it.

Avy, how does the truck handle on the road with it raked out like that? Do you run with swaybars?

[YotaFun]

It leans like it always has.
Running sans sways