CCW in business attire

[oly884]

I've checked most links and have found a variety of options, but I am wondering if anyone else can offer suggestions (weapons, holsters, etc) for carrying in business attire. Slacks, tucked in collared shirt (sometimes a tucked in polo shirt), and usually no jacket.

I have a glock 29, which I am starting to feel may be inadequate for concealed carry in this attire. With an untucked shirt and jeans, sure. I am beginning to lean towards pocket pistols and I have looked at kel-tec's P-3AT and their PF-9

Any suggestions, comments, etc will be greatly appreciated!

[Whitey]

Ankle Holster?
Have you checked out tactical.com

[oly884]

I have thought about that and have yet to try one, my only concern would be, once again, the size of the pistol and the pants I wear. I would be afraid of it printing easily. I also have pretty skinny ankles.

Now with a Kel-Tec, I would be interested as it is a small pocket gun, with that I also have the option to carry it in my pocket!

[drguitarum2005]

oh its easy, just start carrying a purse and keep it in there!

[oly884]

Does this purse make my gun look big???? :gay:

[fustercluck]

Thunderwear...

http://masterofconcealment.com/images/magick_cache/pgroup_4437_image_260_shadow.gif

...and an HK USP .45 bobbed hammer compact. Eight rounds of smoke wagon in the mag and one in the chamber. Happiness is a warm gun.


http://www.gunshopfinder.com/hk/usp45compact.jpg

[drguitarum2005]

Thunderwear...

http://masterofconcealment.com/images/magick_cache/pgroup_4437_image_260_shadow.gif




That looks dangerously close to shooting him in a very bad place

[Robinhood4x4]

Have you checked out the concealed carry forums (http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin/index.php)? They have a holster section where this question comes up all the time.

I have a crossbreed supertuck which, as it's name suggests, can be used while your shirt is tucked in.

Also, the reason I got my 642 is for pocket carry and I use a pocket holster from http://www.rkbaholsters.com/

[Tofer]

http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?ProductID=1855&GunID=57

http://www.usgalco.com/Catalog/large/USAUDC_Inset2.jpg
http://www.usgalco.com/Catalog/large/USAUDC_Inset3.jpg

like that?

[fustercluck]

Thunderwear...

http://masterofconcealment.com/images/magick_cache/pgroup_4437_image_260_shadow.gif




That looks dangerously close to shooting him in a very bad place


...not with an HK. They'll go chambered and locked with one lever. Same lever will decock and then back to safe. I do like the HK's :D

[oly884]

http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?ProductID=1855&GunID=57

http://www.usgalco.com/Catalog/large/USAUDC_Inset2.jpg
http://www.usgalco.com/Catalog/large/USAUDC_Inset3.jpg

like that?


The problem is that it may look pretty simple, but that will print pretty dang easy. I'm not a very big guy, so hiding a pistol on me isn't the easiest thing.

Fuster, as for the HK, I really like those pistols, but how much smaller is that than my 29?

[fustercluck]

I'd bet they have similar dimensions. Where they differ is that the HK has a mechanical safety and as was mentioned before, Thunderwear places the firearm disquietingly close to the crown jewels. The Glock has a time proven trigger safety, but it is not a mechanical disconnect. All that would be required for an accidental discharge would be an unusually active member...











































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:hillbill:

[oly884]

I'd bet they have similar dimensions. Where they differ is that the HK has a mechanical safety and as was mentioned before, Thunderwear places the firearm disquietingly close to the crown jewels. The Glock has a time proven trigger safety, but it is not a mechanical disconnect. All that would be required for an accidental discharge would be an unusually active member...











































http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e201/1fustercluck/bean.gif

:hillbill:






:laugh:

Correct on that about the glock. I ultimately don't know about where I'm going to carry it. I also have a brief case, that if carried properly, would provide me with quick, if not quicker, access to my pistol. Obviously there's the question of keeping the pistol on me at all times, and I would ideally prefer that to happen. However, I am faced with a difficult situation. The 29 is harder to carry, no questions there, when I purchased it, my work attire was different. So that leaves me with a few options, new gun, or carry in my brief case/shoulder case thingy. (I'll get a picture of it later)

Obviously, with a new gun, that opens me up to quite a few options, but it would most likely end up being a small pocket gun/revolver and I'm still not 100% sold on those.

Yes, I know, having a gun beats not having a gun. However, that requires more ammo of different types, additional training (and pocket guns are no fun to shoot from what I hear), and also the simple power of the ammo.

Now, if I were to come to work, I could lock up my brief case, ah, laptop bag, that's what it is! And no one but me would have access to it. Work is not where I worry, but it's in the walks down town where I do worry.

Anyways. I'll get some more thoughts in later.

[Seanz0rz]

why not some snubnose .38 revolver? thats what my uncle carries as a backup. revolvers are nice because if that first round doesnt go off for whatever reason, just pull the trigger again.

[fustercluck]

...hehe as rule, you can never have too many types and variations of guns. :D

Have you looked at a Walther PPKS?...or a Sig 232? They are easily concealed and can be found at bargain rates used. Sure, they are only .380 (9mm kurz), but as you say, I'd rather have SOMETHING in the event that I am in an inescapable confrontation.

[oly884]

why not some snubnose .38 revolver? thats what my uncle carries as a backup. revolvers are nice because if that first round doesnt go off for whatever reason, just pull the trigger again.


Call me crazy, but I have never really be much of a fan of snub nose revolvers. I've always had issues with them. It would require a lot of time to get used to one to rely on it for self defense and be able to hit what I'm aiming at.

[fustercluck]

I like revolvers because I don't have to bend at the waist to police my brass...unless I drop a while fumbling with the ammo box. As has been demonstrated in my recent experience, it is unwise for me to shift my center of gravity to the extreme. :flipoff:


*note to self* get more revolvers...

[oly884]

Revolvers in general don't bother me, just snub nose. I seem to have an issue with them, especially in the 'hitting what you are aiming at' department.

[fustercluck]

Hehe. yeah, shorter sight radius can do that. It emphasizes any idosycratic tendencies we have in our technique. This is the trade off between a nice match grade firearm with a 6" sight radius and a snubby 2" sight radius. I don't shoot as well with snubbies as I do with full size. That's part of the challenge.

[oly884]

very correct, Fuster.

Aside from aiming, I seem to have an issue with the triggers as well as the recoil. My very first firearm was a Glock 20 which still sits beside my bed when I sleep. So, from the start, I've been shooting an autoloader.

The most recent snub nose I shot was my buddy's S&W ultralight weight .357

That sucked, I would have rather thrown rocks at the guy. That gun is so painful to shoot, I really don't think that one could ever get off a doubletap unless they were a behemoth of a man.

[fustercluck]

Yeah. No double taps with a magnum...especially the .44 mag; ugh. The triggers on revolvers are heavy and some will actually hang an then break which screws up my concentration. I usually shoot a revolver with the hammer pulled back. that way it is already ready to break. I do enjoy the process of opening, emptying and loading the cylinder of a revolver. It's like driving a standard transmission vehicle. I feel like I'm more a part of experience. Not only that, but the younger crowd at the range usually sports an auto loader. They smirk at my revolver (usually a .44 mag) until it fires the first time. Then their heads duck and shoulders jerk with a start. It gives me a certain smothered glee to give the other guys a jolt. :D

[bamachem]

i have a galco skyops for my Sig 229 and it works well for concealment in a button down, but it does print somewhat in a polo. for light duty, i still have my Bersa Series 95 380 (like a cross between a Walther PPK and Sig 232 - nice little gun for "pocket" carry).

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3614/skyops2lp6.jpg

[oly884]

Yeah. No double taps with a magnum...especially the .44 mag; ugh. The triggers on revolvers are heavy and some will actually hang an then break which screws up my concentration. I usually shoot a revolver with the hammer pulled back. that way it is already ready to break. I do enjoy the process of opening, emptying and loading the cylinder of a revolver. It's like driving a standard transmission vehicle. I feel like I'm more a part of experience. Not only that, but the younger crowd at the range usually sports an auto loader. They smirk at my revolver (usually a .44 mag) until it fires the first time. Then their heads duck and shoulders jerk with a start. It gives me a certain smothered glee to give the other guys a jolt. :D


See, now I have no beef with a .44 mag at all. It's big, it's mean, and it's simply bad-ass.

Perhaps I'll get one of those too, are they hard to conceal :)

[fustercluck]

Yeah. No double taps with a magnum...especially the .44 mag; ugh. The triggers on revolvers are heavy and some will actually hang an then break which screws up my concentration. I usually shoot a revolver with the hammer pulled back. that way it is already ready to break. I do enjoy the process of opening, emptying and loading the cylinder of a revolver. It's like driving a standard transmission vehicle. I feel like I'm more a part of experience. Not only that, but the younger crowd at the range usually sports an auto loader. They smirk at my revolver (usually a .44 mag) until it fires the first time. Then their heads duck and shoulders jerk with a start. It gives me a certain smothered glee to give the other guys a jolt. :D


See, now I have no beef with a .44 mag at all. It's big, it's mean, and it's simply bad-ass.

Perhaps I'll get one of those too, are they hard to conceal :)



Hehe. Well that depends upon your natural 'endowments'. If folks are accustomed to seeing young David with an ample...uh....prowess, then the sight of a rigid barrel half way down the ol' crotchal area won't put anyone at alarm. But if young David is notoriously groinally challenged then a protuberant stiffness would be suspicious to say the least....:D

[Robinhood4x4]

I like revolvers because I don't have to bend at the waist to police my brass...


On the flip side of that is you're training yourself to hold onto the brass. If you ever have to use a revolver your natural motion will be to eject the rounds into your hand nicely rather than use that time for a reload.

Not that I don't do the same thing...

[fustercluck]

I like revolvers because I don't have to bend at the waist to police my brass...


On the flip side of that is you're training yourself to hold onto the brass. If you ever have to use a revolver your natural motion will be to eject the rounds into your hand nicely rather than use that time for a reload.

Not that I don't do the same thing...


True, but I never carry a revolver for protection.

What I really want is caseless ammo....