CB/Ham radio

[Ric]

hey guys,
does anyone know if there is such a thing as a CB andHam radio in one unit ?

[Good Times]

nope

[glenyoshida]

I'd like to know that too. I think it'd be cool to have a combo unit so you can have the best of both worlds on the trail. CB to talk to most of the wheelers and Ham for those times when ya get stuck far away from others or to talk on a channel free from chatter.

[glenyoshida]

nope

Bummer. My hopes are deflated.

[Ric]

nope lol, damnit, NOT the answer I was looking for :hillbill:
but I do appreciate the fast reply :thumbup:

[4runnerchevy]

They do make Ham radios that can do the CB band, and they make some import CB's that will do the 10 meter ham band. I think your looking for a 2 meter Ham radio and finding one that can do 11 meter CB will be tough if not impossible.

[glenyoshida]

They do make Ham radios that can do the CB band, and they make some import CB's that will do the 10 meter ham band. I think your looking for a 2 meter Ham radio and finding one that can do 11 meter CB will be tough if not impossible.
Well that's kind of encouraging. Sounds hard to find and therefore probably a bit pricey. Do you have any suggestions of places or sources to contact that might be able to find such a thing?

[Good Times]

To expand on what Kevin says..

Transmission breakdown:


BandsLower Frequency Upper Frequency
12 meters24.890 MHz24.990 MHz
Citizens Band (CB radio)26.965 MHz27.405 MHz
10 meters28.000 MHz29.7000 MHz
6 meters50.0 MHz56.0 MHz
2 meters144.0 MHz148.0 MHz
70 centimeters420.0 MHz450.0 MHz


I included both the 12 meters and 10 meters to show you where the CB (citizens band) falls in place.

The most common ham radios you will find are the 2 meter band radios. Dual bands are usually 2m/70cm and the quad bands are usually 10m/6m/2m/70cm. I've yet to find a radio that includes the CB band.

Ham Radio Manufacturers:
ADI
Alinco
Icom
Japan Radio Corp
Kenwood
Yaesu

Personally I wouldn't try to find a radio that does both because you're looking for something that's virtually impossible to find. You're better off just getting a dedicated CB radio and Ham radio. Yes it's a pita but I guess it's a good compromise.

Also if you're planning to get a ham radio look into APRS. If you don't know what it is, it's basically a tool that transmit your location using a combination of your gps and ham radio. It gives others the ability to locate you based on your beacon that is displayed on their gps (Assuming that both parties have the APRS setup properly). Cool stuff :)

Good luck!

[Ric]

To expand on what Kevin says..

Transmission breakdown:

Bands Lower Frequency Upper Frequency
12 meters 24.890 MHz 24.990 MHz
Citizens Band (CB radio) 26.965 MHz 27.405 MHz
10 meters 28.000 MHz 29.7000 MHz
6 meters 50.0 MHz 56.0 MHz
2 meters 144.0 MHz 148.0 MHz
70 centimeters 420.0 MHz 450.0 MHz

I included both the 12 meters and 10 meters to show you where the CB (citizens band) falls in place.

The most common ham radios you will find are the 2 meter band radios. Dual bands are usually 2m/70cm and the quad bands are usually 10m/6m/2m/70cm. I've yet to find a radio that includes the CB band.

Ham Radio Manufacturers:
ADI
Alinco
Icom
Japan Radio Corp
Kenwood
Yaesu

Personally I wouldn't try to find a radio that does both because you're looking for something that's virtually impossible to find. You're better off just getting a dedicated CB radio and Ham radio. Yes it's a pita but I guess it's a good compromise.

Also if you're planning to get a ham radio look into APRS. If you don't know what it is, it's basically a tool that transmit your location using a combination of your gps and ham radio. It gives others the ability to locate you based on your beacon that is displayed on their gps (Assuming that both parties have the APRS setup properly). Cool stuff

Good luck!
great info there :thumbup:
Ive seen on another forum (co4x4) that some have Modded thier HAMs to work on the CB channels
Heres the link, Im sure its poss. anything is poss. lol
http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=133781

[Good Times]

Ric the problem is that the FCC does not allow the combination of 10 and 11 meters.

Then again when has that stopped a lot of people right?

[Ric]

awwwww, ok makes sense now.... NOT allowed, YES, its done, people do it..

well then damnit... I thought I was good :chair: thankx again :thumbup:

Looks like Im back to looking at the Handhelds, lol

[Good Times]

Ric,

I think a lot of truckers do this so they can transmit at the higher power rating which equates to greater range w/ other truckers.

At any rate I say just get a dedicated ham radio and call it a day. If you really get into it it's another hobby that will be VERY expensive :) I have a Yaesu 7800 (dual band) and it works great for the stuff I do but now that I'm getting into it I really wished I took more time researching cuz I really like the APRS feature. I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense to get another cheap haam radio for just the APRS or just drop more $ on a new radio that supports APRS. bah!

As for quality of communnications between the ham and cb. No comparison! :)

[Ric]

my only issues is that i dont want another thing in the cab area, another mic, etc. im trying to free up space, lol. thats why i was wondering if i could get a radio that does both.
and yea, i know that it can get pricey, expensive, lol always want to up grade, lol.
right now, ive got the stereo, cb, sirius, nav., and gps, its to crowded, lol even though the TomTom is rarely used/mounted, and I want to add my laptop :headscratch:
I dont know, I do know the benefits of having a HAM radio, maybe i could figure out a good, out of my way place to mount one.
Your info was greatly appreciated, any other thoughts, please share them :thumbup:

[Good Times]

Ric,

Some of the higher end ham radios have detachable faces so you can literally mount the radio under your seat(s) or even somewhere else you think will fit. I have my radio mounted in the back of the truck and have the radio face on the laptop tray. The cb sits under the factory stereo radio so no problems there.

Usually I don't need both cb and ham radios on so I only keep the mic installed when needed. Also when I don't use the ham I just put it away in my glove (disconnected) so it's actually pretty convenient.

[4runnerchevy]

Ok, so on other sites I get into real trouble on this topic. I always seem to get the Ham's pissed off. I was once a Ham operator as well as a Marine operator (by land). I cannot tell you where or how to mod radios, but there are some that do the 10-11 meter easy (cb + 10 meter snobs) Under $300. If you want to carry any such equipment, like amps, and mod radios (but not use) then a marine license makes you legal.

A simple Ranger, Superstar, Galaxy, and such will get you all of the 10&11 meter, as well as some military stuff in 7,8, and 9. An unlicensed person could be jailed but highly unlikely (thats my disclaimer).

All in all, if your wanna run a Ham radio, get a license and go 2m. If you want to talk to all the others on the trails then have a CB handy.

[Ric]

Im guesing that most radios for expedition/wheeling use is of the 2M flavor ?
Whats the most common Dual bands ?

[Good Times]

The vast majority that I've seen use 2m as the norm.

I just got the dual band just cuz it was a great deal on craigslist for next to nothing. :) Other than that I wouldn't have picked up the dual band.

[Ric]

The vast majority that I've seen use 2m as the norm.

I just got the dual band just cuz it was a great deal on craigslist for next to nothing. :) Other than that I wouldn't have picked up the dual band.

cool, good know, thankx again

[corax]

Transmission breakdown:


BandsLower Frequency Upper Frequency
12 meters24.890 MHz24.990 MHz
Citizens Band (CB radio)26.965 MHz27.405 MHz
10 meters28.000 MHz29.7000 MHz
6 meters50.0 MHz56.0 MHz
2 meters144.0 MHz148.0 MHz
70 centimeters420.0 MHz450.0 MHz


I included both the 12 meters and 10 meters to show you where the CB (citizens band) falls in place.


The freq counter on my Cherokee CM-10 Plus goes from 23.815 MHz -> 30.555 MHz (27.185 is CB Ch 19). I bought it as an "export radio" already peaked and tuned to a clean 10W. The CM-10 (non-plus) only has the regular CB frequencies available from factory, but a quick google shows it is possible to get the full range with just a bit of solder work (I also found the CM-10 Plus on ebay)

http://www.gijoesradioelectronics.com/Images/cheokeecm10plus.JPG

[Ric]

Transmission breakdown:


BandsLower Frequency Upper Frequency
12 meters24.890 MHz24.990 MHz
Citizens Band (CB radio)26.965 MHz27.405 MHz
10 meters28.000 MHz29.7000 MHz
6 meters50.0 MHz56.0 MHz
2 meters144.0 MHz148.0 MHz
70 centimeters420.0 MHz450.0 MHz


I included both the 12 meters and 10 meters to show you where the CB (citizens band) falls in place.


The freq counter on my Cherokee CM-10 Plus goes from 23.815 MHz -> 30.555 MHz (27.185 is CB Ch 19). I bought it as an "export radio" already peaked and tuned to a clean 10W. The CM-10 (non-plus) only has the regular CB frequencies available from factory, but a quick google shows it is possible to get the full range with just a bit of solder work (I also found the CM-10 Plus on ebay)

http://www.gijoesradioelectronics.com/Images/cheokeecm10plus.JPG

VERY nice.. thankx so much im going to look into that

[Terracoma]

My group of friends mostly use a 2m simplex frequency when we're out on trips.

However, there are also a lot of 70cm repeaters out there, and we nerds like to have options.



:D

[4runnerchevy]

Transmission breakdown:


BandsLower Frequency Upper Frequency
12 meters24.890 MHz24.990 MHz
Citizens Band (CB radio)26.965 MHz27.405 MHz
10 meters28.000 MHz29.7000 MHz
6 meters50.0 MHz56.0 MHz
2 meters144.0 MHz148.0 MHz
70 centimeters420.0 MHz450.0 MHz


I included both the 12 meters and 10 meters to show you where the CB (citizens band) falls in place.


The freq counter on my Cherokee CM-10 Plus goes from 23.815 MHz -> 30.555 MHz (27.185 is CB Ch 19). I bought it as an "export radio" already peaked and tuned to a clean 10W. The CM-10 (non-plus) only has the regular CB frequencies available from factory, but a quick google shows it is possible to get the full range with just a bit of solder work (I also found the CM-10 Plus on ebay)

http://www.gijoesradioelectronics.com/Images/cheokeecm10plus.JPG


Nice radio keith, Others are an RCI 2950, superstar 2950, and most other imports can be modified. The problem is that he will still have to have two radios if he wants cb & 2m. My choice was the Superstar 2950 and an external Freq counter, and a Texas Star 1000w variable amp.

[Roverpilot]

I actually want anotherone of these radios , I have one but the volume controle went bac and due to the configuration , no one wants to fix it , I even satd that I would accept a resister being solidered in place for a 70% fixed volune and still the CB shops dont want to touch it . I lived the crisp clear Xmit and the digital display as well as the compact size and duel chanel watch and scan . I have found no other that compairs .If any one knows where I can get one or a compairable one you can contact me at roverpilot at gmail dot com





Transmission breakdown:


BandsLower Frequency Upper Frequency
12 meters24.890 MHz24.990 MHz
Citizens Band (CB radio)26.965 MHz27.405 MHz
10 meters28.000 MHz29.7000 MHz
6 meters50.0 MHz56.0 MHz
2 meters144.0 MHz148.0 MHz
70 centimeters420.0 MHz450.0 MHz


I included both the 12 meters and 10 meters to show you where the CB (citizens band) falls in place.


The freq counter on my Cherokee CM-10 Plus goes from 23.815 MHz -> 30.555 MHz (27.185 is CB Ch 19). I bought it as an "export radio" already peaked and tuned to a clean 10W. The CM-10 (non-plus) only has the regular CB frequencies available from factory, but a quick google shows it is possible to get the full range with just a bit of solder work (I also found the CM-10 Plus on ebay)

http://www.gijoesradioelectronics.com/Images/cheokeecm10plus.JPG

[corax]

I actually want anotherone of these radios , I have one but the volume controle went bac and due to the configuration , no one wants to fix it , I even satd that I would accept a resister being solidered in place for a 70% fixed volune and still the CB shops dont want to touch it . I lived the crisp clear Xmit and the digital display as well as the compact size and duel chanel watch and scan . I have found no other that compairs .If any one knows where I can get one or a compairable one you can contact me at roverpilot at gmail dot com


CB shops are more concerned with selling you new equipment, not repairing what you already have.

You can look around you for a radio or electronics repair shop, or ask one of the high end car audio shops for advice on who could do teh repair (not necessarily a chain store). Also try a google search for "HAM radio repair" - it'll likely have to be mailed out, so call them ahead of time and explain what you have and what's wrong. You might also try HAM Radio Outlet (http://www.hamradio.com/) - I think they also do repairs

[troyboy162]

i just got a magnum 257 10 meter radio. it is an export radio that can be easily set to use the cb range as well. ill add to this post in that there is about no reason to own a 10 meter radio lol. there is no repeters that ive found and obviously no one is using it offroad. there is very little traffic on USB or LSB either. the only thing i found useful is the small size and the good tx/rx

[4x4mike]

Digging up an older topic but Troyboy162, why did you go 10m? Is it just because of the small size? If I understand somethings, you can't communicate with folks on 2m. Right? If there are no repeaters where you go do you even use it?

Just doing a little research about radios and frequencies.

[troyboy162]

Digging up an older topic but Troyboy162, why did you go 10m? Is it just because of the small size? If I understand somethings, you can't communicate with folks on 2m. Right? If there are no repeaters where you go do you even use it?

Just doing a little research about radios and frequencies.


i went with that radio since i found one cheap and since it can do the cb band as well. yup it cant do crap really lol. no 2m stuff and no repeaters that i can find. in all the scanning ive done its never picked up anyone on 10m so id say its a dead band for now. its small, looks modern and works in the CB range...in my case it was cheaper then a nice cobra or something.

[corax]

10 and 12 meter are dead bands - they'll open up a bit on the next solar cycle (cycle 24), but that's not for a few years yet

http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/images/figpredic24-1.jpg

here's some light reading on it (http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/sunspot.shtml)

[4x4mike]

i went with that radio since i found one cheap and since it can do the cb band as well. yup it cant do crap really lol. no 2m stuff and no repeaters that i can find. in all the scanning ive done its never picked up anyone on 10m so id say its a dead band for now. its small, looks modern and works in the CB range...in my case it was cheaper then a nice cobra or something.

Gotcha.