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neliconcept
11-18-2008, 11:11 AM
Well you may be wondering wtf happened, basically last night I got approached by a well dressed man who needed help and wanted me to take him somewhere as he said he locked his briefcase and wallet at his office building (called them later he doesnt work there) anyways, i let him take a ride with me, as soon as the doors shut and we are off, gun comes out and im getting asked to hit the bank and get money out.

furthermore, i give him the 80 dollars i told him that i had and that was it and no overdraft at all, and he took it, dropped his fatass off and i left, being even more dumb, i failed to make a police report last night as i was in total shock of it happening and i filed one today, which probably wont yield a damn thing anyways as the officer so pointed out to me.

I made some bad mistakes in letting him in and not filing it immediately and calling 911.

I guess i need to really think hard next time and learn from this but never ever ever again will i even help anyone, i just dont care if its a playboy model with sarane wrap tangled around her on the side of the street with a flat.

Let this be a lesson to all, and probably just me because everybody else knows what to do except for my stupid ass.

Whitey
11-18-2008, 11:19 AM
first!

calrockx
11-18-2008, 11:21 AM
you have way too much drama in your life.
and facebook updates.

4x4mike
11-18-2008, 11:22 AM
Sucks. Glad to hear it wasn't worse though. I kind of have this rule about not picking people up but it's probably because I live in a large city.

mastacox
11-18-2008, 12:08 PM
Dude, that's freakin' scary. Glad you're ok; unfortunately this world has a lot of scum in it...

Did he follow you up to the ATM, hence possibly catching him on video and proving you were being held at gunpoint for withdrawing the money? It was a mistake not IMMEDIATELY calling the police when you left, but you definitely needed to file a report. Any chance of getting your money back on the bank's end?

Being out $80 is a relatively small amount, considering the possible alternatives... What a douchebag.

neliconcept
11-18-2008, 12:23 PM
you have way too much drama in your life.
and facebook updates.


maybe, but of course you care enough to point that out

neliconcept
11-18-2008, 12:25 PM
Dude, that's freakin' scary. Glad you're ok; unfortunately this world has a lot of scum in it...

Did he follow you up to the ATM, hence possibly catching him on video and proving you were being held at gunpoint for withdrawing the money? It was a mistake not IMMEDIATELY calling the police when you left, but you definitely needed to file a report. Any chance of getting your money back on the bank's end?

Being out $80 is a relatively small amount, considering the possible alternatives... What a douchebag.


cop let me know that i messed up and i know i messed up, just hope i dont mess up again.

oly884
11-18-2008, 01:00 PM
Damn Blake, glad you got out of that OK. This makes me want my CWP even sooner (should be any day now...).

With that said, I had my bank account cleaned out two weeks ago. Someone rigged and ATM and stole my card number and got my PIN number as well, duplicated my card and took ALL my money.

So, lesson learned, don't trust anyone, and if some pulls a gun on you, wait for them to look the other way, and put a lead slug in their brain.

Scuba
11-18-2008, 01:08 PM
Wow, Glad your ok.
Should have ran him over after he got out of the car though.
then called the cops and stayed there, car ontop of said petty :asshat: theif

neliconcept
11-18-2008, 01:13 PM
Damn Blake, glad you got out of that OK. This makes me want my CWP even sooner (should be any day now...).

With that said, I had my bank account cleaned out two weeks ago. Someone rigged and ATM and stole my card number and got my PIN number as well, duplicated my card and took ALL my money.

So, lesson learned, don't trust anyone, and if some pulls a gun on you, wait for them to look the other way, and put a lead slug in their brain.


unfortunately i dont have a gun, but im seriously considering owning one right now man, one thing is, he was in the vehicle with me when i got my money out of the ATM, and my vehicle i think is on par to the camera at the atm? but then again i had to reach down to get money so it may not be.. i told the police to check that out in case.

drguitarum2005
11-18-2008, 01:36 PM
welcome to atlanta. i know you don't need to continue being told to never let anyone into your car, especially in this city. glad it didnt turn out worse for you. i can't wait to get out of this city

my idiot roommate let in a "nice dressed black guy" to our apartment last year and ended up getting the crap beat out of him and everything he owns stolen. i was taught from day 1 never to trust a stranger no matter how nicely theyre dressed or how believable their story.

04 Rocko Taco
11-18-2008, 02:31 PM
welcome to atlanta. i was taught from day 1 never to trust a stranger no matter how nicely theyre dressed or how believable their story.


Dang Blake, even a country at heart bumpkin like David gets it! Welcome to the ATL, your one of us now. lol. Stay away from everyone. haha.

slosurfer
11-18-2008, 03:31 PM
Damn Blake, I'm glad you're okay. That's pretty scary. Look on the bright side, you only lost $80 bucks. He would have probably got less than that if he robbed me :laugh:. He didn't even take your wallet?

Depending on how the dropoff went, you should have let him eat some bumper. Granted, I know you were probably still too in shock that it had even happened.

habanero
11-18-2008, 05:10 PM
You may be out a few bucks but you're alive in one piece. Same thing happened here, but the off-duty fireman who stopped lost his life for it.


You know, I once took in a kid I'd never met and he turned out to be an alright guy. Don't forget your lesson but don't forget there's good people too, though I doubt they'd be wrapped in saran wrap. At least in public...

waskillywabbit
11-18-2008, 05:32 PM
I don't trust anyone anymore...which is why I carry a gun on my persona at all times when legal.

The old addage is true now today more than ever..."Don't talk to strangers."

Glad you are okay, but you learned a powerful lesson I hope.

:guitar:

Tankota
11-18-2008, 06:30 PM
Wow thats pretty scary there man. I totally understand not being able to think straight right after the indecent.
I was shot at when I was about 12 because I happened to see a huge drug transfer go down in our old neighborhood. I never want to be on that side of a gun ever again.

Just look on the bright side. Now you got a great story to tell the grand kids!

xonetruthcrewx
11-18-2008, 08:18 PM
As you know, you definitely screwed up. But whatever. Shit like this is the reason I too carry at all times. You just never know. And hell, you live in CO. Its easy to get a concealed weapons permit there. What the hell are you waiting for?

Tankota
11-18-2008, 08:31 PM
Dont start packing until you are very familiar with your gun and its operation. If i was going for concealed carry I would want to take some tactical shooting classes too.
You can shoot all day long at a range but when it comes to a life threatening situation, things are very different.

neliconcept
11-18-2008, 09:26 PM
Dont start packing until you are very familiar with your gun and its operation. If i was going for concealed carry I would want to take some tactical shooting classes too.
You can shoot all day long at a range but when it comes to a life threatening situation, things are very different.


so you think a tactical class would help with such situations instead of the range? i may take that into affect

Collin, not really in CO anymore, but i heard here in atlanta, you can carry in your car without a permit as long as it isnt on you while out of the car (or so i heard)

i really need to get a weapon but like tank said, i may should take a class first, i have shot a bit before but not enough to be really familiar with a hand gun semi auto

thanks guys, i really needed to feel a little bit better about what just happened, i have already talked to my parents, kinda a vent like situation but hopefully a lesson has been learned even if i am in shock and awe if it happens again, i need to report right after

Tankota
11-18-2008, 09:38 PM
I've never taken any myself, but have definitely thought about it. A friend of mine actually took a couple classes through a local community college here in SD. I think it was in conjunction with a police firearm class, or just taught by the same instructors. I know some larger gun stores or ranges sometimes offer tactical and self defense shooting classes. Look into it for sure. I know there's hundereds of instructional DVD's out there too if thats what you like.

Cheese
11-18-2008, 10:04 PM
Real first, glad you are all right. 80 bucks comes and goes.

But, and I mean this in the best way possible, please do not get a sidearm Blake.

Second, this reassures me about decisions I make with who and what I keep around.

Colorado, outside of Denver Metro, is a really safe and easy place to get along.

I ask, honestly, how would a gun have made this better? By the time you have stopped and let the guy in, he is operating here he planned, you are not. If you can draw and fire lethally before the guy who is intending to hurt you hurts you, I am impressed.

***Disclaimer: I am not a tough guy, on the internet or in real life. I am, however, large enough that people have not sought me out for things like this in the past.

drguitarum2005
11-18-2008, 10:32 PM
i agree a gun in this particular situation wouldnt have helped, however, to say don't get a sidearm because of this i don't think is valid. there ARE situations where one will help, this just wasn't one of them

Cheese
11-18-2008, 10:44 PM
I think guns have a place.

I think that place may not be in my hands, it may not be in some others hands.

I just wonder how often the weapon solves the problem and if they teach the how to deal with killing someone in the CCW class.

Personally, I am not sure I could pull the trigger, as I have never had to. I am a long arm owner, hunter and believer in gun ownership, just trying to ask some questions that are genuine and curious. My understanding is people are taught not to draw unless they intend to shoot and not to shoot unless they intend to kill. How regularly are such scenarios experienced? Maybe I have a bland life.

slosurfer
11-18-2008, 11:11 PM
In this type of situation, really the only thing that probably would have helped (minus the don't trust strangers part), is some type of self defense classes. Not really for fighting back, but these type of classes really help you to stay in control of yourself and not go into shock in a situation like this. This will help with you taking action right after you are out of the situation and you will be able to recall more and give a better description to the authorities if you are in control of yourself throughout the event.

Glad you are safe, Blake. :thumbup: I guess now is the time to install one of those James Bond Passenger Ejection SEats. :laugh:

Small_words
11-19-2008, 07:42 AM
Blake, don't beat yourself up. I was in Romania with the military and was distracted by a good looking lady and didn't notice her accomplice that tried to steal my wallet. I was so surprised that I barely did a thing and I've done Judo and boxing for quite a while. If you want a pistol, I strongly recommend taking a class so you know that if you pull it, you will hit what you want to hit. Also, if you're going to pull it, plan to kill with it. I'm really glad to hear you're okay.

fustercluck
11-19-2008, 07:54 AM
By the time Blake knew he was in trouble, a gun would have guaranteed his murder. I carry a firearm for self defense, but self defense begins in the mind. Luck favors the prepared. Now that he knows how fast things can get out of control, he'll be more cautious.

A few years ago I helped a lady change a flat tire. It was dusk and on a scarcely travelled road. As a rule I don't let folks get behind me but whether out of curiosity or something more nefarious, she kept shifting to my six o'clock. I would scoot to where I could both see her and what I was doing, but she continued to casually edge out of my view. I realized that I could not finish like this and suggested she relax in her car where it was warm. She complied willingly so I didn't get the sense that I was really in jeopardy. I finished the task and loaded the flat into her trunk. Off she went and I retreated to my truck. I was likely never in danger. She was likely as nervous as I. The point is that while I was packing, I was in a tactically vulnerable posture. If I had blithely executed my service without caution or concern, she could have rendered me unconcious with any convenient device and stolen my stuff or my life...


...being a comely MILF, if rape were her method, it wouldn't have been so unpalatable...Hehe.

CJM
11-19-2008, 10:04 AM
Thus is why I never ever give people I dont know a ride, and the reason I carry multiple pointy and blunt devices in my truck among other lethal things.

One thing I gotta know, when you let him out, why didnt you run him down? I woulda done it the moment he began to step out, they have no reaction time and wouldnt have expected it anyways.

MTL_4runner
11-19-2008, 12:08 PM
Real first, glad you are all right. 80 bucks comes and goes.

But, and I mean this in the best way possible, please do not get a sidearm Blake.

Second, this reassures me about decisions I make with who and what I keep around.

I ask, honestly, how would a gun have made this better? By the time you have stopped and let the guy in, he is operating here he planned, you are not. If you can draw and fire lethally before the guy who is intending to hurt you hurts you, I am impressed.




I think guns have a place.

I think that place may not be in my hands, it may not be in some others hands.

I just wonder how often the weapon solves the problem and if they teach the how to deal with killing someone in the CCW class.

Personally, I am not sure I could pull the trigger, as I have never had to. I am a long arm owner, hunter and believer in gun ownership, just trying to ask some questions that are genuine and curious. My understanding is people are taught not to draw unless they intend to shoot and not to shoot unless they intend to kill. How regularly are such scenarios experienced? Maybe I have a bland life.


Many wise words of wisdom.
Even if you don't have much to begin with, $80 isn't worth dying over.

corax
11-19-2008, 04:26 PM
I got approached by a well dressed man who needed help and wanted me to take him somewhere as he said he locked his briefcase and wallet at his office building


As everyone else already said, glad you're OK Blake - but damn if those Wall Street types aren't getting bold in this economy. Just don't let one douche ruin your opinion of people in general. I also have been on the wrong side of a barrel, it mostly boiled down to not paying attention to where I was and what was going on around me (and not recognizing the "lookout" at the corner of the gas station for what he was)



Glad you are safe, Blake. :thumbup: I guess now is the time to install one of those James Bond Passenger Ejection SEats. :laugh:


I used to think a push button that could pop the airbag would be nice for a quick stun

RunnerUp
11-19-2008, 05:45 PM
yeah, a few years ago i was with my gf and a guy asked us for a ride because his grocerys were getting warm and the taxi hadnt gotten there yet. keep in midn this is in gville, a very relaxed college town, but i wasnt about to risk her safety, or mine, for some dudes milk.

on a side note.. i would have run him over, 80 bucks is only not worth YOUR life... the scum sucking asshats who tried to take your money is worthless anyways. you could have done the world a favor by taking someone like that out.

drguitarum2005
11-19-2008, 05:59 PM
on the running him over note...in this day and age im pretty sure if he had done that, he would now be getting sued. if he ran the guy over and killed him, heaven forbid he have no family. would running him over AFTER the fact be considered self defense? i could see him getting sued for something like that in todays sad society

localmotion
11-19-2008, 07:07 PM
Ok, from a LEO's perspective...if its harsh, deal with it.

First off, you got suckered into talking to the suspect, not too big of a deal, most of us out there arent aresholes. You should have said no thank you and then walked away immediately, if you were near your vehicle, which i think you were, you should have sounded your panic alarm. That would of spooked him. No, its not being paranoid, its just being safe.

Second, getting into the car with him was the worst mistake you could have made. You should have sounded your panic alarm, like I said. You are FAR more likely to have gotten hurt driving with the smuck. you had to have had some time to call 9-1-1- unless he was with you the whole time.

Third, didnt your mommy tell you not to give strangers rides??? Even in my police car while on duty, if someone runs out of gas and want me to driving them to a gas station (which we dont have to do), they are getting cuffed. Not out of disrespect, but out of my safety.

Fourth, a gun wouldnt have done you any good in this situation. Having one in the car would have done you zero as well. Dont go crazy and go out and buy a gun, keep it on you or in your car, where it is concealed with out a CCW and without taking many many shooting courses. Remember, if you fire that thing, miss and hit someone, you are responsible. Make sure you shoot straight before you go out and decide to carry.

Fifth, you can probably say goodbye to every catching that guy. ATM cameras only only focus on the person infront of the ATM and a little to the sides...unless you went to a drive through ATM at a bank.

as many people have said, its easy to shoot while you are stationary and the targets are stationary. Try having your adrenaline shoot through the roof, you moving around and the guy moving around....not easy.

Glad you are ok man.

I am glad you are ok, and things like this happen daily.

localmotion
11-19-2008, 07:10 PM
i also forgot to mention, not calling you a liar by any means, but the average citizen calls the police, no matter how shocked they are, right after something like this happens. By you not calling the police, it leads us to believe that you may be lying. And if the dude got into your car, there should be prints on the door, unless he was wearing gloves.

Why did u wait so long to call again?

Bob98SR5
11-19-2008, 09:13 PM
blake,

next time, scream like a bitchy gay man from west hollywood, let out a loud shriek, and faint like a soap opera diva.













j/k

seriously, good thing you werent hurt.

and as others have said, you made a big mistake by letting him in. and an ambush is aptly named. you wouldnt've had a chance in hell to draw a weapon if you were in "friendly" mode when you let him in the car.

ive been in a bank when robbed twice with guns. its fuggin' scary for sure. for all others who have said "i woulda done this, i have that..." until you've been there or are professionally trained to respond, sorry guys, you're all numbchuck, rifle on your desk, corey tough talkin' internet commandos. literally, you are paralyzed with fear and the first thing that goes through your mind is "i hope he doesnt shoot me". No joke. even the 2nd time around for me at the bank. and after its over, you feel physically beat. so even though i have my own pistol, have it locked up in my closet w/ the key nearby, i dont know if i could shoot straight enough w/ all the fear and adrenaline going through me.

...so the plan is to shoot wildly and hope i dont hit that old lady neighbor of mine ;)

neliconcept
11-20-2008, 07:31 AM
i also forgot to mention, not calling you a liar by any means, but the average citizen calls the police, no matter how shocked they are, right after something like this happens. By you not calling the police, it leads us to believe that you may be lying. And if the dude got into your car, there should be prints on the door, unless he was wearing gloves.

Why did u wait so long to call again?


i can see your point there, but i an take a picture of the report sheet if needed, and i know i should have called and i just dont know why i didnt, i was so emotional/pissed/scared that i went straight home and went to sleep, at like 9.

im sure ill get updates on the situation from the officer so i may update everyone

Ric
11-20-2008, 08:26 AM
Blake,
sorry to hear about this, but the bottom line is, your ok, hell even if he took your rig, doesnt matter, money and cars come and go, LIFE doesnt....

about waiting to file a report, well i can see where ya might have waited, being all screwed up in the head. not every crime gets reported right away, sure most do, all should, but ever wonder how many children are reported missing ? think all are reported "right away" what about rapes ? its just that sometimes, emotions are not operating right. again, glad your ok, shake it off, and learn something, but please remember, what you did, in trying to help someone out, was a good thing, and NOT everyone will take advantage of it.
IMHO, your a good person for trying to help out, and KARMAs a bitch. Ive always said "what goes around, comes around"

Tankota
11-20-2008, 07:50 PM
As many people have said, in retrospect a firearm wouldnt have helped at all in this situation. Except maybe if he pulled it on the guy after he let him out and held the thief until police could be summoned.

But what if it had been a coked up freak with crossed eyes and an itchy finger just wanting another line. I've run into them before, just never armed. Bit if someone was in that state, and armed, I think I would take my chances with popping them first.

And running a thief over would only land you with manslaughter, or at least assault with a deadly weapon.