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TDiddy
04-03-2007, 05:43 PM
I'm trying to work through an issue for work - a high throughput genotyping lab. We are currently testing a new method of DNA extraction using a NaOH based extraction solution. Some of the tissue samples have a small coating of iron-based paint, and there is a question of whether this paint is affecting the downstream PCR reaction at all.

First sets of data seemed to indicate that the paint didn't have any detrimental effect, but now its being called in to question. Is there anything I can try adding to the extraction solution that will bind or chelate the iron but not interact with the DNA in solution? Bentonite maybe?

oly884
04-03-2007, 06:04 PM
Well, my guess would be that bentonite would pull the DNA out of solution as well as the iron, that stuff is fairly unforgiving when it comes to pulling things out of solution.

I'd say take a look at orthophosphate. From some reading it appears that it's a good way of getting iron out of solution relatively quick.

If not that, take a look at some other iron precipitation reactions.

oly884
04-03-2007, 06:10 PM
Here's a link talking about orthophosphate's effect on iron:

http://www.epa.gov/ordntrnt/ORD/NRMRL/wswrd/cr/pubs/annualconf2002.pdf

bamachem
04-03-2007, 06:25 PM
sorry, Chem-E, but I just put beans in a can. :D

looks like Oly's on the right track to me.

TDiddy
04-03-2007, 08:28 PM
Cool, I will check that out, thanks David. I've had success in other extractions using bentonite to pull out proteins and other junk, I just wasn't sure how it work with Fe.

waskillywabbit
04-03-2007, 08:40 PM
Add some worchestershire. :flipoff:

:guitar:

MTL_4runner
04-04-2007, 03:42 AM
Add some worchestershire. :flipoff:

:guitar:


:lol: I was waiting for an ME to chime in.

TDiddy
04-04-2007, 06:19 AM
Add some worchestershire. :flipoff:

:guitar:





Oh, go AutoCAD something... :flipoff:

Euphorickaty80
04-04-2007, 06:26 AM
Is this thread in english?? :headscratch:

oly884
04-04-2007, 06:30 AM
ChE's > all other engineers

:flipoff:

:D

waskillywabbit
04-04-2007, 05:59 PM
ChE < all other engineers

I started out a ChE but realized it was too easy...so I upgraded to ME. :flipoff:

:guitar:

oly884
04-04-2007, 06:10 PM
Nice try.

ChE's drop down to EE's which drop down to ME's which then become business majors.

Since you have a business, does that mean that you fall in-between the last two?

:flipoff:

:D

calrockx
04-04-2007, 06:52 PM
battle of the e-nerds!

waskillywabbit
04-04-2007, 07:30 PM
CHEMICAL ENGINEER: n. A person who does for profit what
a chemist does for fun. see also "Prostitution"

:flipoff:

oly884
04-04-2007, 07:32 PM
Pretty much (http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=267.0)

dlbrunner
04-18-2007, 12:49 PM
http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/chelators.html
probably not close to what you need, but an interesting article

mastacox
04-18-2007, 03:05 PM
Did someone just talk crap about ME's?! DEATH :banana: