Running 35's? How are you not rubbing?

[SD4runner]

OK I've had my 35's for a few years now, and I have added extended rear bumpstops (4" drop with 1.5" daystar bumpstops), cut my bumper side panels to allow the tire to stuff more, and I STILL am rubbing on the rear wheel wells. I have about 5" of rear susp. lift and a 2" body lift. I have been wanting to take the body lift off forever, but, I can't figure out how I would clear the 35's without taking out the wheel wells even further.

Has anyone trimmed their rear wheel wells!? I am a little concerned about doing it, and screwing it up. I Don't want the sharp edges to contact the tire.

Lastly, I my driveshaft is still whamming the gas tank, even after pounding the crap out of it. I am guessing I have to shorten the panhard bar a little bit.

Any other ideas?

[corax]

Has anyone trimmed their rear wheel wells!? I am a little concerned about doing it, and screwing it up. I Don't want the sharp edges to contact the tire.




This one's a 1st gen (basics are still the same), but the cleanest one I've seen ->click me<- (http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8639501&postcount=13)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll293/lgraham09/4runner%20build/DSC00950.jpg

[corax]

then there's also the DeathRunner method (http://www.yotatech.com/f77/deathrunner-84809/) (my personal favorite 1st gen :D) - using a premade fiberglass flare for a pickup and cutting/folding the sheet metal, the benefit of this is that the fiberglass will cover up any goofs or imperfections.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/Deathrunner/Picture080.jpg

This is the way I'm thinking of going as I need to carve out some rust cancer and widen tire coverage a bit.

[neliconcept]

3rd gen has rear doors people, leaves him an inch to cut and thats it

[corax]

3rd gen has rear doors people, leaves him an inch to cut and thats it


Oh yeah . . . . still could trim a bit depending on where it's rubbing. Might even be able to just grind off a bit of the lip in the wheel well if that's where it's hitting.

SD4runner, where is it hitting? pics?

[YotaFun]

Brad needs to chime in :-)

[calrockx]

Custom Rear bumper. ~4 inches of lift. Some minor trimming with the angle grinder.

Tires still rub slightly at full stuff, but nothing to worry about.

[Cheese]

Let's keep on the topic here, 35" tires on 3rd Gens.

All the other stuff is good, but this is the sort of thing that sidetracks threads and makes searching impossible or unproductive.

Not trying to be a jerk, let's answer the question being asked.

[YotaFun]

To move the rear, you would have to redo all 4 links to keep the pinion angle the same so as not to cause vibration in the driveline.

I think just what Charles said should do the trick, an angle grinder to get rid of that little extra lip.

[4Runner202020]

mine rubed on the rear driver side and i just beat it back with a sledge :D (i will be trimming both sides later on) and cause i dont have a sway bar it rubs on the gas tank tube protector inside the drivers side rear fender but not bad so i dont worry about that. no other rubbing though.

and for the gas tank skid hitting the drive shaft just take it off and cut that whole side vertical section out and it wont hit anymore.

bobby

[neliconcept]

mine rubed on the rear driver side and i just beat it back with a sledge :D (i will be trimming both sides later on) and cause i dont have a sway bar it rubs on the gas tank tube protector inside the drivers side rear fender but not bad so i dont worry about that. no other rubbing though.

and for the gas tank skid hitting the drive shaft just take it off and cut that whole side vertical section out and it wont hit anymore.

bobby


i think i sledged your left side and you did the right later on

flex it out, see where its rubbing and then take care of that spot

moving rear axle is absolutely a bitch, new coil and shock towers, need to make a new panhard mount off the crossbar, longer links and possibly a longer driveshaft.

[SD4runner]

Well, yeah, I don't mind a little rubbing here and there...

But, when I stuff the rear tires, they rub so badly that I can't even move. They seize up against the fender. I literally have to back up, and take a different line.

I haven't heard of this before... I guess I'm asking a rhetorical question... since noone has this problem, I am just making sure.

I understand my options are to just cut the fenders more, but, there isn't much more to cut....Most of you aren't even running extended bumpstops???!!

Like I said again, I have 8" of lift... most you guys have 5" max... I just don't understand what the hell is going on here.

[neliconcept]

Well, yeah, I don't mind a little rubbing here and there...

But, when I stuff the rear tires, they rub so badly that I can't even move. They seize up against the fender. I literally have to back up, and take a different line.

I haven't heard of this before... I guess I'm asking a rhetorical question... since noone has this problem, I am just making sure.

I understand my options are to just cut the fenders more, but, there isn't much more to cut....Most of you aren't even running extended bumpstops???!!

Like I said again, I have 8" of lift... most you guys have 5" max... I just don't understand what the hell is going on here.


whoa something is not right here if you cant even move, i dont have extended bumpstops and havent done jack to my rear and i can still drive without problems and i have 2" less lift then you.

something seems to be moving the axle back/forward when it flexes, flex it out hardcore and then check links and all of that crap,

just doesnt sound right to me

[Cheese]

Lift isn't the only factor. Where your bumpstops are, or have been moved to has a bigger role in rubbing.

I think part of the problem with those who haven't done anything with the bumpstop is they don't get after it to the same degree.

What shocks are you running? I assume they are long enough for all the droop. I think some people may have too long a shock, so it limits travel and prevents rubbing.

[SD4runner]

Well, I am running Landcruiser OME shocks. They are pretty damn long. ;) I have really lowered my bumpstops, but apparently not enough.

I'm going to go ahead and remove the body lift, and use a scribe to cut out the wheel wells about an inch. I'll also be cutting the bumper sides to allow the tire to get up more without the rubbage.

I think another issue is my adjustable bar is set too long. I need to shorten that up, and it should help.

[SD4runner]

Well this weekend I went out to Corral Canyon, and even after adjusting my panhard bar, and beating my rear bumpers in, the tires ended up tearing into the rear bumper even more.... I mean, I'm stoked that I am able to get this much flex out of the rear, my Jeep buddies are impressed even. ;)

Guess I'm going to hammer some more...So who is running 35's w/o an aftermarket rear bumper?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/sc4runner/DSC05088.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/sc4runner/DSC05087.jpg

[mastacox]

It could have to do with the backspacing on your rims. If their backspacing is too small, it sticks the tires out farther and will cause more rubbing, especially at the top of the fender in the back, and the inside pinch weld in the front.

I'm only running 285x70r17's, but I had to cut about a 1/2" out of the inside of the fender flare and hammered up the inside fender lip to make sure the tire clears when it's stuffed during flex. My "effecive backspace" with the wheel spacers is about 4.1", so anything less than that I can see how you would have some serious trouble without liberal cuttage.

[neliconcept]

i ran 35s for a bit with my stocker rear bumper and hit every so often but not that bad.

aftermarket now so i cant help ya