SEMA 2009

[Obi..]

Someone please tell me they went and got some coverage this year because anything has to be better looking than this monstrosity..

Scuba, I am sorry to have ever said "Speed Boat Metal Flake" and "Forest Service Green" in the same sentence. This has to be the worst case of cosmic intervention EVAR!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2764/4078435592_7fa148fa8e_b.jpg

[Nick]

That.is.fugly.

This, however, is not:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/11/09semababes---00.jpg

More here to remedy bleeding eyes caused by the horrendous XBOX Tacoma

SEMA Girls: http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/sema-2009-booth-professionals/med/

[Obi..]

:lol: I think there are more "Talent Shots" this year than the last few, too bad because it then becomes an indication of the poor vehicle turnout and the photog's need to actually "Get Coverage". I'm waiting for a buddy to get back Monday from his detour over to SNT to see what he's got.

Look at how they hinged the doors, using something modeled after a Nissan XTerra roof system, can you say "FAIL, complete and utter FAIL."?

Some ideas and things are best left on paper, so the janitor can take them out. Maybe there's turbo thrusters hidden under the tonneau cover? :spit:

I always did like WD-40, wonder if there's a Spot-Shot one also?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/11/09semababes---03.jpg

[Scuba]

Good gawd that taco is ugly.

I saw it on ttora the other day from the guys at 4WDTO, im pretty sure they were there... Ill wait to see what they have in store...

[4x4mike]

Good compilation of photos.

LINK (http://www.octanemedia.com/event-coverage/sema-2009-photos/)

[Crinale]

some nice looking cars in there... but kinda disappointing for SEMA... looks like this year was an all out aftermarket competition to see who could build the best camaro, challenger, and mustang...

i must admit, after looking through all 420 pictures i was getting really tired of seeing all the "new muscle" cars...

[Obi..]

some nice looking cars in there... but kinda disappointing for SEMA... looks like this year was an all out aftermarket competition to see who could build the best camaro, challenger, and mustang...

i must admit, after looking through all 420 pictures i was getting really tired of seeing all the "new muscle" cars...


That right there is part of my disappointment in this year's show. Way to do two things..show support for the "Home Team" and way to piss off companies who import. Come on now sinking tons of money into marketing your top line sports cars is not going to help us believe in you more. Fix your expenditures and make cars Americans will buy. Throwing money around isn't always the solution and of course the fact the whole show was "Sponsored by Ford" mirrors this fact.

But, of course that subject is best left to a political thread.

[Whitey]

Your posts are maki

[quote=Crinale ]
some nice looking cars in there... but kinda disappointing for SEMA... looks like this year was an all out aftermarket competition to see who could build the best camaro, challenger, and mustang...

i must admit, after looking through all 420 pictures i was getting really tired of seeing all the "new muscle" cars...


That right there is part of my disappointment in this year's show. Way to do two things..show support for the "Home Team" and way to piss off companies who import. Come on now sinking tons of money into marketing your top line sports cars is not going to help us believe in you more. Fix your expenditures and make cars Americans will buy. Throwing money around isn't always the solution and of course the fact the whole show was "Sponsored by Ford" mirrors this fact.

But, of course that subject is best left to a political thread.
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Your posts in thread thread are making progressively less sense.

[Obi..]

HUH?

How about you learn to do quotes and learn to clarify what you meant in reply please. My post set is following the logic that this years coverage sucks, it's mostly "Talent" shots and that I would hope someone can offer up some good coverage if there was any Toyota, Lexus, or Scion vehicles. Related to that is the fact the event was sponsored in full by an American manufacturer who should like the other two American manufacturers, spend their, or rather our money better.

I hope you meant something different but if not I'm happy to spoon feed it to you. If you aren't part of the initial conversation, but then choose to throw out a bullshit comment mid span, maybe just shut up and don't chime in?



Your posts are maki

[quote=Crinale ]
some nice looking cars in there... but kinda disappointing for SEMA... looks like this year was an all out aftermarket competition to see who could build the best camaro, challenger, and mustang...

i must admit, after looking through all 420 pictures i was getting really tired of seeing all the "new muscle" cars...


That right there is part of my disappointment in this year's show. Way to do two things..show support for the "Home Team" and way to piss off companies who import. Come on now sinking tons of money into marketing your top line sports cars is not going to help us believe in you more. Fix your expenditures and make cars Americans will buy. Throwing money around isn't always the solution and of course the fact the whole show was "Sponsored by Ford" mirrors this fact.

But, of course that subject is best left to a political thread.
[/quote

Your posts in thread thread are making progressively less sense.

[slosurfer]

Related to that is the fact the event was sponsored in full by an American manufacturer who should like the other two American manufacturers, spend their, or rather our money better.


Wasn't Ford the ONLY one to NOT take a .gov handout and in the end they have now turned a profit?

[Obi..]

Yes, but they in turn are receiving a funding reimbursement for the event as it was a "Cross promotional event" in that they also supported GM and Chrysler.

It's like volunteering and still taking the write-off, get it?

[slosurfer]

Sounds like it's smart on Ford's part. Kind of like taking my tax return and buying something that will be a write off. :thumbup:

[04 Rocko Taco]

Keep it clean boys!! No name calling or harassing! Play nice, or recess is over for the day!

[DHC6twinotter]

My favorites:

Anybody know what motor that is?
http://www.octanemedia.com/wp-content/gallery/sema-2009-photos/SEMA-2009-082.jpg

http://www.octanemedia.com/wp-content/gallery/sema-2009-photos/SEMA-2009-086.jpg

Nice FJ45LWB, although I'm not a fan of the GM motor:
http://www.octanemedia.com/wp-content/gallery/sema-2009-photos/SEMA-2009-130.jpg

And I really like this color, but not a fan of the wheels:
http://www.octanemedia.com/wp-content/gallery/sema-2009-photos/SEMA-2009-214.jpg

[Scuba]

Damn that 45 is clean!!!
I kinda like that camaro, just don't like how it's dropped

[Seanz0rz]

dan, v12 Detroit diesel.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/13/monterey-2009-blastolenes-twin-supercharged-v12-peterbilt-hot/

[Whitey]

HUH?

How about you learn to do quotes and learn to clarify what you meant in reply please. My post set is following the logic that this years coverage sucks, it's mostly "Talent" shots and that I would hope someone can offer up some good coverage if there was any Toyota, Lexus, or Scion vehicles. Related to that is the fact the event was sponsored in full by an American manufacturer who should like the other two American manufacturers, spend their, or rather our money better.

I hope you meant something different but if not I'm happy to spoon feed it to you. If you aren't part of the initial conversation, but then choose to throw out a bullshit comment mid span, maybe just shut up and don't chime in?



I think you are making my point for me.

[Obi..]

I think you are making my point for me.


Whatever there sparky..If you're unhappy then contribute something worth reading that relates to the O/T or go back under your bridge, or..
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/4091851866_2fb594e8d7_o.jpg

Successful Troll Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETO3-MxMe2Q#)

[Obi..]

I have a little more content to post as soon as it's public for the Scion and Lexus projects..

Some of Joe's pics are here (Scion Pickup): http://www.flickr.com/photos/nobueno/4080035717/#

Then there's the Fox Marketing projects (the two IS 3's) here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxmarketing/4073112363/#

FYI..NAIAS is less than 9 weeks off, there is a distinct possibility I might end up with a spare pass, anyone want to be a "Go-For" or "Assistant"?

http://www.naias.com/
http://ifitsgotanengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/naias2009.jpg

As in, go for drinks, go for a food run, assist with the photo staging, assist with the beautiful ladies? If so pm me your resume and background.
(I'll post a classified in UY as soon as I get a confirmation.)

[Robinhood4x4]

Nice FJ45LWB, although I'm not a fan of the GM motor:
http://www.octanemedia.com/wp-content/gallery/sema-2009-photos/SEMA-2009-130.jpg


Why not? I thought land cruisers came from the factory with a chevy 350...

:wrenchin:

[Whitey]

Here:
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34098

And:
http://jdmchicago.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3153

Now take some valium and enjoy the pictures.

[Seanz0rz]

http://www.jdmchicago.com/images/sema/12.jpg


:spit: AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Obi..]

Now take some valium and enjoy the pictures.


Whatever makes you happy then.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qy4iftwk5JM/SN_K2LcwsPI/AAAAAAAAD_o/afvod9f_2zE/s400/whitey.gif

[Obi..]

Why not? I thought land cruisers came from the factory with a chevy 350...

:wrenchin:


Why BTB or TLC don't pull the trigger and do a S/C'd 4.7 is beyond me, I thought they both had looked into it??

[DHC6twinotter]

Why not? I thought land cruisers came from the factory with a chevy 350...
:wrenchin:


I guess I'm sorta a purist, so I personally would have preferred a 4.7, 4.7 stroker (5.2), or a 1hd-t diesel mated to a H151 5 speed tranny. :D

[DHC6twinotter]

dan, v12 Detroit diesel.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/13/monterey-2009-blastolenes-twin-supercharged-v12-peterbilt-hot/


Awesome, thanks Sean.

Interesting that he's got all the accessories mounted on the firewall side of the motor. Also looks like the exhaust has changed sometime between those autoblog photos and the sema show. I bet that 2 stroke diesel sounds awesome!

[DHC6twinotter]

This is kinda interesting too (note the exhaust pipe in the front fender):

http://www.octanemedia.com/wp-content/gallery/sema-2009-photos/SEMA-2009-089.jpg

Is that a Cummins 6bt in a Caddy?

http://www.octanemedia.com/wp-content/gallery/sema-2009-photos/SEMA-2009-091.jpg

[corax]

I bet that 2 stroke diesel sounds awesome!



check out the youtube videos (he used to design crystal paperweights?!?)

[No-Edit GWTS] Randy's new Peterbilt Features 12v71 Detriot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARCJzdln8TM&NR=1&feature=fvwp#ws)

(he gives it some juice at ~ 3:30 in this one)
Piss'd Off Pete (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP0gdmRlJgA&feature=related#ws)

[X-Tool Pimp]

http://www.jdmchicago.com/images/sema/12.jpg


:spit: AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


What's so funny that Camaro is BAD A$$ :hillbill:

[Obi..]

Yes, IIRC it's a 6BT. It was over at Roy's shop for a peek, if you're really into rods, visit the site or the shop (on a Friday or Saturday) : http://www.roybriziostreetrods.com/

[Seanz0rz]

http://www.jdmchicago.com/images/sema/12.jpg


:spit: AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


What's so funny that Camaro is BAD A$$ :hillbill:


im laughing at those wheels and tires. i feel so bad for the tires though, i really do. poor bead.

[corax]

I'm amazed they were actually able to seat the beads

[Seanz0rz]

im sure if you took a corner at say, more than 10 mph, youd pop it off.

[Crinale]

the veedub guys have been pulling stuff like that for a long time... still not an easy thing... just nothing new

[X-Tool Pimp]

http://www.jdmchicago.com/images/sema/12.jpg


:spit: AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


What's so funny that Camaro is BAD A$$ :hillbill:


im laughing at those wheels and tires. i feel so bad for the tires though, i really do. poor bead.


I know I'm just trying not to look at that poor thing :laugh:

[slosurfer]

I want one of these in my driveway:

Rally Fighter (http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2009/11/local-motors-rally-fighter/)

[Crinale]

I want one of these in my driveway:

Rally Fighter (http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2009/11/local-motors-rally-fighter/)


that thing is awesome looking... i wonder what the travel specs and stuff are for it...

[Crinale]

nevermind... went to the Local Motors website... 18" front travel from an independent A-Arm coilover setup, and 20" rear travel from a 3-Link live axle with panhard bar...

i would love to see one of these in person... it also uses a 6x5.5" bolt pattern.. i wonder if its a Toyota 8" axle :-P

[Cebby]

I want one of these in my driveway:

Rally Fighter (http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2009/11/local-motors-rally-fighter/)


http://www.local-motors.com/

[troyboy162]

I want one of these in my driveway:

Rally Fighter (http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2009/11/local-motors-rally-fighter/)


http://www.local-motors.com/


now that is really interesting. if they pull off these low number custom built cars at the 50k range they are aiming for then its really going to change things. imagine a low number offroad truck stripped of amenatiys? rich guys would line up for that too im sure. brilliant motor choice too!

[corax]

That is pretty damn hot, but the $50k price tag puts it firmly into trust-fund-kid territory which kinda makes me sad and jealous at the same time

I still wish KTM would push forward with the Ax (http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=C5BC3BD679FA4301B5F6F077AB31D1F1)

[Obi..]

Me, I like Jeremy's new Toyota! :D

..where's that pic of the motorcycle??

[Obi..]

http://www.jdmchicago.com/images/sema/12.jpg


:spit: AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Come on meow, that's the cat's meow. I meow look at how those tires are meow. Meow listen here, it's hot..MEOW.
http://thumbnails.hulu.com/6/831/4759_512x288_manicured__JdssNTv1bUaUTujoJ7SbOw.jpg

[slosurfer]

I want one! I'd have them add a hitch to it and paint my trailer to match it. :) Would be awesome to do an across America trip in one of these. :)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/slosurfer27/wallpaper_01_800x600.jpg


Lance, lets build one! :thumbup:

[Crinale]

i think i have to agree with corax... the KTM Ax looks awesome... it looks like the Ariel Atom if it were made for offroad instead of on road... :-P

[corax]

i think i have to agree with corax... the KTM Ax looks awesome... it looks like the Ariel Atom if it were made for offroad instead of on road... :-P


definately has that look, though the direct lineage is from the KTM X-Bow (this company has really impressed me in the last 2 years - from being known primarily for their dirt bikes to breaking out with MotoGP, then an open wheel racer in such a short time) - though the Rally Fighter is now on my desktop because it has the distinct advantage of being daily-drivable

KTM X-Bow (already being produced/raced)
http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/ktm-x-bow/ktm_x_bow_model_08.jpg
KTM Ax concept
http://www.diseno-art.com/images_3/KTM_AX.jpg

[slosurfer]

That ax looks awesome too! That would be a blast out at the dunes! :thumbup:

I like how the rally fighter has seating for 4 or more room for gear with 2 people. You could drive on and off road, as in, I could drive this out to Barstow and have a blast, and then drive it into Vegas and then back home. :)

[Crinale]

ya, that is very true... it is distinct in that you could drive it everywhere... although, id bet if you gave any of us $50k we could all build a truck at least as capable, at least as durable, and probably have money left over... although we dont all have access to a BMW diesel motor...

[slosurfer]

Kevin, I agree, although, I think for any of us to pull that off for under 50K, we would have to use an existing body. I doubt we could build one with a one off working body, hood, doors, and windows for that much.

[troyboy162]

yeah 50k is cheap for all that. you either invest in expensive specialized machinery and make tons to get your money invested back or you do expensive custom work and charge out the yang for it. somehow these guys think they can do custom on the cheap. its going to be really cool to watch. i want them to hit there 50k mark, but i bet they will be closer to 100k with the volume they will likely get. i watched a lot of there videos and they really want to turn the auto industry upside down and have a plan to do it. if that sells for 50k then they've done it

[Obi..]

:) All I can say about the KTM and Rally Fighter is it strikes me as their bringing RC Car conceptual design to full scale, and in these cases, so worth it! :D Way to spin the industry on their backs and strike out with something potentially great.

Oh, almost forgot, got to play with a hopped up Tesla today..I'll get a shot of the little sport shop later on, looks like they've some sweet tricks up their sleeve also.

[Crinale]

i definitely respect what Local Motors is trying to do... and the guys in charge are definitely smart... the 2 founders met at school in Boston... which means they either were probably at Harvard, or MIT... (and one of the founders went for his doctorate at Harvard)

So it sounds like they may be able to pull it off... only time will tell i guess..

[Crinale]

@ Chris - they arent doing one-off bodies for every vehicle (because ur right, im sure they couldnt do that for <$50k)... what it is is called "open source design" which essentially means they hold competitions with certain criteria, and have designers from all over the world enter their designs, and the winning design becomes one of their models... the guy who designed the Rally Fighter is in this video...

here is their SEMA video... Local Motors releases "A Car Story" Part 4 - The Rally Fighter takes SEMA. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=202ZHBOic9w&feature=sub#ws)

[slosurfer]

Yeah, I know they aren't doing one off bodies, I meant that if you and I did it, it would all be "one off" and therefore expensive and impossible to do for less than 50K.

Since they are doing more of them they may be able to hit the 50K mark. Sounds expensive, but is pretty close to a fully loaded fullsize double cab truck, so not unattainable.

[Whitey]

KEN BLOCK'S TRAX STI CAR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDNLUzjkpg#ws)
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd246/jrwhite13/01-block-tank-live-630op.jpg
Who has more fun than Ken Block?

[CJM]

^ well if i lived in the swiss alps thats what I would want lol..

[Crinale]

i honestly think that no one has more fun the Ken Block... he gets to do insane things to subaru's, so that he can do insanely cool things in them... although Gymkhana 2 was a bit too commercial for my tastes, but had some epic shots ;)

[slosurfer]

Rally Fighter First Drive 11/14/2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3yfHSAYWo#)

[strykersd]

Here&#39;s one concept I kind of like. Jeep&#39;s Lower Forty. It looks like a hummer, but I like the large tire/little lift concept. http://www.insideline.com/jeep/mopar-underground-flexes-muscle-with-jeep-lower-forty-and-grand-canyon-ii.html
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/slideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=1105618&icid=autos_1126&GT1=22017#4

[corax]

It&#39;s rare that you&#39;ll here me say "nice" and "wrangler" in the same sentence, but that is a nice Wrangler variant - almost looks like a matchbox car

http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/Media/580x348/e3/e3f8e1bc75ff40898fc5affda8088246.jpg

[Seanz0rz]

i wonder if they bothered to beef up the drivetrain or if they are still running stock axle shafts and steering components (the parts that most often fail when you put larger than stock tires on a jeep)

[slosurfer]

it has a dana 60 rear and a beefed up dana 44 in the front. I believe an actual offroad outfit did the drivetrain.

[Crinale]

that 44 front probably still wont stand up to those (looks like 44"?) tires... probably just a show queen anyway...

but i do like the concept... i do like low-lift applications...

[strykersd]

that 44 front probably still wont stand up to those (looks like 44"?) tires... probably just a show queen anyway...

but i do like the concept... i do like low-lift applications...


It's called the lower forty since it's running 40" tires

[Crinale]

ah ok... theres a guy in a local 4x4 club that has 40's on his TJ... but i think his axles are Dana 70s... (Chris correct me if im wrong)... he also has the sickest airbag setup ever :-P

[slosurfer]

I believe he has beefed up 60's. The thing started off as a Rubicon, but I believe the only thing rubicon left on it are the decals. :laugh:

[4x4mike]

D60 and D44 with ARB&#39;s
(http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/09q2/jeep_lower_forty_and_wrangler_overland_concepts-car_news)

It made the rounds on the internet over the summer.