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4x4Fink
04-16-2007, 10:52 PM
Hey guys,

I have the opportunity to sell my BFG Muds that I have on my rig now and replace them with the new Mickey Thompson MTZ's...great news I know. However, it's about size...always is.

I can fit 285's with zero problems. I test fitted ADH8796's 305's today and it looks like I might have a few issues.

Here's a pic of the biggest place of concern

Front bumper, valence can be trimmed but I'm worried at full stuff it may rub on the metal part of the bumper which I'd rather not have to trim:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/aharder_album/MTZ/IM000423.jpg

The back isn't so much of an issue as I can remove the mudflap if it rubs on that but another area I'd like for you guys to look at.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/aharder_album/MTZ/IM000424.jpg

What do you guys think? The 285's sound better but the 305's look better. The 285's fit perfectly in the fender wells, the 305's will stick out quite a bit further posing the danger of dings and scratches from rocks on the paint (the newly installed sliders will help a little bit with that).

Here's a pic of the two comparatively:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/aharder_album/MTZ/IM000420.jpg

They look so much bigger and badder. However, I think the 285's will still give the bigger "fill in the fender better" look but the 305's once again are still better looking IMO. Either way I'm gonna go with the MTZ's as long as all of my funds come together.

Here's a zoomed out pic so you can see how it looks overall:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/aharder_album/MTZ/IM000422.jpg


So what do ya'll think? Am I gonna rub a lot with the 305's? Should I just take a chance and go for 'em? Or should I keep with what I know and go with the 285's?

Thanks for readin,

Fink

Good Times
04-16-2007, 11:20 PM
did you see this thread on the 305 vs 285 comparison?

http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=53.0

a quick search should answer all of your needs.

good luck

Lee
04-17-2007, 05:32 AM
you should test fit again and flex the crap out of them and judge then.

if you plan on wheeling, go with what fits best, if you dont really, then go with what looks best.

i have 33x12.5's on my truck (a little bigger than a 305/70) and they rub the top of my front fenders (i have 2" spacer and 1"bl up front)on full flex, but besides that ive had no issues.

localmotion
04-17-2007, 06:48 AM
Fink,

You have posted many threads with your questions that could have easily been answered by you taking 2 minutes to search. I dont want to rag on you so I will keep this simple. Please use the search function. This place will not spoon feed you. Please use the search feature.

Thanks


Matt

4x4Fink
04-17-2007, 11:15 AM
I'm not a newb man, I did search. You can show me all the comparisons you want...but each rig is different. I know all about the differences, but I wanted to post pics of what it looks like on MY rig.

I saw the thread that Good Times linked for me when I searched, that helped answer another question I had but Andy(bama) has an aftermarket front bumper and the Limited flares so his assessment of his rig is only good for the pinchweld aspect of it. I wanted to know if it was gonna rub on my front bumper. This was the best way to do that, in my mind.

Thanks for the advice, lee.

Fink

bamachem
04-17-2007, 11:24 AM
yeah, i'm not a good representation of a rig w/ a stock bumper. the ARB has WAY more clearance up front than the stock plastic & metal.

4x4Fink
04-17-2007, 11:27 AM
Thanks Andy, with your knowledge of the 305's do you think I'll run into many problems with the way it sits in that first pic?

Thanks again,

Fink

ADH8796
04-17-2007, 11:33 AM
305's do look a little bigger but I think if you were to run 285's on your rig they would look real good and you wouldn't have to do any triming. I figured out I'm going to need to do some trimming and shave my upper A-armes without a doubt because with almost any flex I rub the upper A-armes. Just depends on how much time you want to spend triming and griding. Either way it's going to look sweet the tread pattern on these new MTZ's is just mean looking.

bamachem
04-17-2007, 11:39 AM
honestly, it's going to be close.

the easiest way to check would be to put them on, turn the wheel to reduce the gap to it's minimum, then jack up that lower suspension arm to stuff that wheel and see what it does.

it's going to be close...

localmotion
04-17-2007, 11:47 AM
do you really need the extra width of a 305? It seems from your post that you only want them because they look cool. Dont get me wrong, they do look nice, but if its going to be that big of a pita, keep the 285s

You had the 305 on...why didnt you just swap tires for a day and you test them out...that would be the best thing to do.

ADH8796
04-17-2007, 01:07 PM
do you really need the extra width of a 305? It seems from your post that you only want them because they look cool. Dont get me wrong, they do look nice, but if its going to be that big of a pita, keep the 285s

You had the 305 on...why didnt you just swap tires for a day and you test them out...that would be the best thing to do.


He doesn't need the extra width of the 305's. Hell yeah he wants them because they look cool I mean isn't that part of the deal you build your rig to wheel and look cool? I do agree 285's might be the way to go just for looking really nice and agressive but not overdoing it. And don't get me wrong I like Fink he's one of my Friends but im not taking off my brand new tires and letting Fink run around on them for a day.

ADH8796
04-17-2007, 01:09 PM
honestly, it's going to be close.

the easiest way to check would be to put them on, turn the wheel to reduce the gap to it's minimum, then jack up that lower suspension arm to stuff that wheel and see what it does.

it's going to be close...


Your right it is close that's what we did yesterday and it was real close but it's a little hard to get the tires to flex all the way like they would on the trail. I think 285's are the safe way to go and 305's are maybe pushing it a little either way I think they look nice.

localmotion
04-17-2007, 01:41 PM
do you rub on the metal of your bumper ADH? It seems that you have the same set up as 4x4fink.

ADH8796
04-17-2007, 02:24 PM
not driving around town but like I said I just got these tires put on and haven't had time do do any wheeling. So I don't know where I'll rub when I wheel. However I'm willing to cut down and do whatever I have to do to make them not rub.

4x4Fink
04-17-2007, 09:12 PM
I was going to suggest that we swap all 4 for a day but really...that would only let me figure out whether I was going to rub in the city, I wouldn't be able to hit any good trails or do any major flexing. As of right now, I think I'm leaning more towards the 285's. Sticking with what I know has always worked for me in the past. I usually tend to like the taller narrower look anyway.

I won't know til this weekend whether I can afford the swap or not but if I go with the 285's then I most likely will be able to.

Thanks for all the help,

Fink

4x4Fink
04-18-2007, 08:27 PM
Well...after about 2 hours of sorting through pics online last night. I think I'm gonna go with 285's. It's pretty much a done deal...gotta get some help with the funds from my Pops but after that it's a go.

I've got a brand new BFG M/T 285/75-16 that's been on my spare rim since I've had this set and it has never seen pavement. If you want it make me a deal.

I'll post up when the word is final.

Thanks,

Fink

neliconcept
04-18-2007, 08:44 PM
might save you a few bones too, ive noticed 305s vs 285s in price is usually like 15 to 20 more a tire if not more.

4x4Fink
04-18-2007, 08:52 PM
You're right man, it does.

The 285's are ~$186/tire where as the $305's are ~$211/tire.

Quite a big difference.

Thanks for the post man,

Fink

kcebes
04-19-2007, 03:56 AM
I run 305's but i also have the tjm helping me out with the clearance. Oh..and they look really cool. You should get them.

4x4Fink
04-19-2007, 05:56 PM
That's the thing...if I had an aftermarket front bumper then by all means, I'd have 305's. I probably would have gone with them back when I first got the 285's.

Either way, they're gonna look beefy and probably still seem bigger.

Thanks for all the help guys,

Later,

Fink