the mighty Cleghorn has fallen?

[troyboy162]

havnt seen it for myself but this report dosnt looks good over on MJR

http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/showthread.php?p=164488#post164488

[Scuba]

:(

I'll see it for myself May 15

[Crinale]

damn, i never got to experience it...

[troyboy162]

one of the guys posted links to his pictures. the place is done for good. the barricades are pretty serious and permanent

[YotaFun]

jack hammers, lots of straps and shovels, lets make it an event lol!

[YotaGirl]

I had heard rumors that this might happen at some of the SBNF meetings awhile back, but I never thought it would actually go through. What a bummer. I really liked that place.

[Scuba]

Those pictures literally almost bring a tear to my eye. :(

I guess I just don't understand why it's such a big issue that it's getting "torn up". They knew it was going to get torn up forever ago, so why have they let it continue until now.

:(

[troyboy162]

the end of an era..... fun trail and a great place for noobs like me to get hooked on wheeling.
a few posts to remember the good times....

my first wheeling trip(its all scubas fault)
http://www.yotatech.com/f15/cleghorn-ridge-157946/

http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=8851.msg85634
http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=8817.msg85320

[04 Rocko Taco]

Those pictures literally almost bring a tear to my eye. :(

I guess I just don't understand why it's such a big issue that it's getting "torn up". They knew it was going to get torn up forever ago, so why have they let it continue until now.

:(


Because Scuba - all this time they have been spending the budget for "trail maintenance" on other stuff, and padding thier pockets, and screwing us over!!
Then when it reaches a "critical point" they either have to put up (the money) or close up. Since they dont have all that maintenance money they have been taking over the years, they just shut the doors, and try to justify it some other way!!






...not that it's a sore subject or anything. They did us south eastern folks the same way with Tellico.

[Crinale]

thing about cleghorn, it had a club that had adopted it... so they should have been taking care of it too...

kinda pisses me off though, wonder if any of the MyJeepRocks guys have gotten ahold of anyone to see whats up...

[Seanz0rz]

i talked to a ranger almost exactly 1 year ago (conversation was may 16th, 2009). we were at the trail head and he came by just to check things out. he told us to enjoy the trail while it lasted. the problem with the "cleghorn" we all know and love is the route that crisscrosses the actual trail (forest number escapes me) is designated as an ATV/motorcycle route/not a real NFS trail at all. over the years its been widened out, and trucks like us drive on it. there were never any signs designating one road from the other, so of course we picked the more challenging motorcycle route.

shame they had to do it, but i understand why. this was my first trail, my first offroading experience in my 4runner. it holds alot of memories, even my avatar picture is from cleghorn!

[troyboy162]

its dead... this was posted on MJR today. what will really suck is if people cut new trails there or go around the blockades

from Greg Hoffman, SBNF OHV Co-ordinator:

As you may know, some of the unauthorized routes (bypasses) on Cleghorn have been blocked and slashed with brush. Some of the bypasses that are not blocked will become legal, designated, numbered roads.

This effort is part of the SBNF travel management decision. All of the closures should reflect the final SBNF Motor Vehicle Use Map. The contract restoration crews and equipment are starting this project on the west side of the main divide (I-15) and working east. Finishing east of Big Bear.

The crews are in the Lake Arrowhead area this week. The Contractor is working quickly and efficiently.

If you have any concerns or comments about this project or need any specifics, please contact me.

Hopefully, you were able to attend any of our Travel Management Open House meetings and comment on these projects over the past five years.

Thank you very much,

Greg.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww234/troyboy162/cleghorn.jpg

[L33T35T Tacoma]

I wonder if those "unauthorized" bypasses that are going to become "legal" will even leave cleghorn worth the trip. I hope they leave the road open that goes to the big rock. That was a great place for poser shots.

[CJM]

Welcome to bureaucratic BS America, in the olden days no one woulda have done anything. You can thank most of all the people at the Sierra Club who no doubt pad the pockets of the people who make these kinds of decisions.

[troyboy162]

it was interesting to see the bypasses to the bypasses being formed this year. it made me conscious of myself taking side wings around the hard spots and how those extra trails probably arnt a good thing for the life of a trail on public land.

cleg would have been closed regardless but when things are being assessed, im sure is dosnt look good to the forest service when they see places like the uphills on pilot rock where three separate routes are blazed up every face. (adopt-a-trail already fixed them). i also think ill keep a positive attitude to smaller trucks stacking the main lines rather then creating the need for more bypasses.

[troyboy162]

maps of all the changes to SBNF are here

https://www.fbo.gov/index?tab=documents&tabmode=form&subtab=core&tabid=a631068b5f489ba8e9f5ea929b391ded

[Crinale]

not quite sure what im looking for on that site... heh

[troyboy162]

better link

https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=e7d13a69d5052a5a5070526a7ed40f71