2010-10-09-10 Big Bear Pontiac Sluice/Mottino wash-

[troyboy162]

pontiac on saturday afternoon
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/jeeps/pontiac.php
the old secret trail. its pretty well known now but is also #1 on the chopping block for trail closures. get it while you can!
difficulty: 3.5 http://www.nwtoys.com/reference/trail-rating

when/where: http://goo.gl/En1c. envisioning a noon kick off

CB channel: 14
GRSM channel: 4 (bring two radios to share with a CB equiped rig)
2M: 146.430 -UY primary. also have keller peak, Rodman, bigbear repeters


requirments:
-flashlights if you want to explore mines
-working reliable truck
-food and water
-recovery points front and rear
-tools
-spare within 3" of your other tires
-31" tires

recommended:
sliders and armor
32" tires or better
limited slip diff or better

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrvAHR9gnpBq43ZIADg1ALrZ4wYxuaC PrHl-H7Qfc77ta9esc&t=1&usg=__W7DDXniwWOZ2aYAuunbORv-OVNA=

camp out at secret spot (no facititys) saturday night
its a nice spot and i expect reasonable shelter from the wind, but bring a ground pad because it will be rocky. alternate near by sites are softer if required. location to be given out to participants.

mottino wash on sunday morning
http://forum.aev-conversions.com/showthread.php?p=14790
this is it...this is the warmup for the big boy trails across the street. prove yourself here and then have a go at clawhammer or aftershock.


difficulty: 4-4.5 http://www.nwtoys.com/reference/trail-rating

when/where: http://goo.gl/En1c envisioning a 9:30 kick off

CB channel: 14
GRSM channel: 4 (bring two radios to share with a CB equiped rig)
2M: 146.430 -UY primary. also have keller peak, Rodman, bigbear repeters


requirments:
-working reliable truck
-lunch and water
-recovery points front and rear
-tools/ space cv
-recovery strap and/or winch
-full size spare tire
-33" or better MT or agressive AT
-rear locker
-sliders and armor or a no care attitude
-chicks dig body damage (very likly to scuff your pumas)


recommended:
-35 or better MT
-front and rear locker
-full armor
-camera
-passenger to share in the fun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/xjohnnyc/Big%20Bear/IMG_3369.jpg

[Seanz0rz]

Offroad expo man!!! Good luck on the trail. Get lots of pics

[troyboy162]

off road expo? bah its only gonna be glamis suspension and trasharoo's!
come do pontiace with us sean! its going to be closed very soon since its not an offical 4x4 trail. i was shocked it wasnt stone walled already but we pocked up into the start of it last weekend and its still open

[NakSuKow]

Let me figure out whats going on with my schedule, but I would like to make out for one of the days.

[Scuba]

I'm in for both days... But of course you already know that :D

If anyone else is camping.. We should do a potluck Saturday night.. I can make a mean sloppy joe..
Troy, have you checked the weather for that area this weekend?

[Marc P]

I will be close to JV this weekend....taking the kids camping in Joshua Tree. I may need to find some dirt to try the new rig in

[troyboy162]

I'm in for both days... But of course you already know that :D

If anyone else is camping.. We should do a potluck Saturday night.. I can make a mean sloppy joe..
Troy, have you checked the weather for that area this weekend?

the weather is stablizing on thursday night for sunny 60/30 all through the weekend. id think that will mean very little winds. its a little chilly but with the sun 60 will feel nice and layers will be needed in the evening.

mark i think you will be well equiped for pontiace but a little low for motino with your tire size. i felt good on 35 with one locker. steve was confident on bald 33 and two lockers

NakSuKow i think you would like both runs. pontiace will include some mine exploring as well.

[Marc P]

I need a much more mild run to get used to the rig

[NakSuKow]

I will be there Sunday. Wish I could make it for the whole weekend can't do it this trip.

[troyboy162]

sounds good. you were 35" and rear locker right?

[Scuba]

That red txt is obnoxious :flipoff:


Got a buddy that's coming for saturday with his truck. Said he'll be camping but won't wheel sunday.

[troyboy162]

yeah ill get with all campers offline and give out the details so we can all prep what we need.

[Crinale]

so wish i could make this! :( but my truck wont even drive down the street right now :-P

[troyboy162]

That red txt is obnoxious :flipoff:





oh man it sure was. it didnt look bad on internet exploder. but chrome made it look really bad

[troyboy162]

updated lots of info. pontiac looks pretty easy. id say a stock rig would make it with some scrapes of the undercarriage. looks like your better off to have a mildly lift/tire rig for security

[NakSuKow]

sounds good. you were 35" and rear locker right?


33", rear locker, front trutrac.

[Scuba]

sounds good. you were 35" and rear locker right?


33", rear locker, front trutrac.


You might struggle a bit and get hung up on link brackets and and crossmembers. We can pull you through or stack if needed and unstack when all of us are through.
Theres one section that where a rock face got reallllly close to troy's very rear most quarter window.. We got him through with no damage though.

So if your up for it then come out. It'll probably challenge your driving skills but it is a really fun trail.

[NakSuKow]

I will be there.

[Scuba]

I will be there.


SWEET! :guitar:

Troy can get you coords to the camp spot where I suppose you can come meet us sunday morning!


I'm just waiting for troy to make final meeting point saturday morning so I can let a buddy of mine know..

[troyboy162]

meeting spot for both days will be point "B" in the links above. i think the route from riverside was missleading. it was just ment to be a sample route that most people will be taking.

i have not run that forest road but i would think it should be well marked. please let me know if that will be too remote a meeting spot and we can arrange something normal. i just figured from all points south it dosnt make sence to drive all the way into big bear only to drive all the way east to pontiac/mottino.

[NakSuKow]

Meeting point is good for me. Let me know if you need me to bring anything.

[troyboy162]

great! i think we should be good. i bet we will be half frozen though haha

[NakSuKow]

Do we have to run part of Rattlesnake canyon to get to Mottino?

[troyboy162]

yes we will convoy out from the meeting spot to get over there

[rivethead242]

Steves buddy here. Im in for wheeln pontiac and camping out sat night. Got some work to do on the truck before i do Mottino. Steve didn't mention any mine exploration! Looking forward to it.

[Scuba]

Steves buddy here. Im in for wheeln pontiac and camping out sat night. Got some work to do on the truck before i do Mottino. Steve didn't mention any mine exploration! Looking forward to it.


I didn't know we'd be hitting any mines..
If were close to some though, then I'm down.

[troyboy162]

yeah there is one on the far side of pontiac. basicaly pontiac is a old mine road. and shooting star is something you guys should see.

[rivethead242]

sounds good to me!

[Jaydee914]

Troy, it's JD. We won't be able to camp or do the Sunday drive, but I think we're in for Saturday! Stocker with tires ok?

[troyboy162]

bad ass!! yes you guys should be fine. kids coming? theres a couple good mines they would like. the trail is narrow though in spots, but i think i remeber you werent too worried about branches on your paint...

[Jaydee914]

Yup, Vic and the kids will be along. I'll need to borrow a radio, if that's cool.

[troyboy162]

np ill charge up the hand helds. should be a great day out there.

[Scuba]

Sweet looks like we should have a good bunch on saturday and a slightly smaller bunch on sunday!

I've gotta hit the store tomorrow.
Saturday night sloppy joes and baked potatoes is on me!

[troyboy162]

it should be a good one. ive got a buddy from work that might ride along. if he does come that will mean i will be traveling from where we drop his car off. (probably the super market). if anyone needs to convoy in with me from a easy meeting spot please let me know and i can make arangements.

[strykersd]

I wish I could make it to this, but my 4runner is still in pieces :(
I need to get my butt in gear and get back out to the trails! Have fun out there guys!

[rivethead242]

troy, how long are these mines that we are exploring? also we doing any crawling/vertical climbing? trying to see if the lantern would sufficient or if we need to bring flashlights as well.

[troyboy162]

they are all small by cali standards but shootingstar is the largest i know of in big bear. but even as the largest is hase only about a 1/4 mile of tunnels or less. its not very hard core so no helmets will be needed and you can explore the whole thing in ten minutes. no ladders or climbing gear required

i wouldnt bother with a big lantern, there are no large rooms and a small flashlight will be fine

[Scuba]

Bring the lantern in case we can't have a fire!

[L33T35T Tacoma]

I'm on the fence about this one... I'll let you know

[troyboy162]

I'm on the fence about this one... I'll let you know

pontiac looks like a beautiful trail. Mottino is a angry brute... and the camping would be fun and/or cold haha

[Scuba]

I told Jason that he'll be fine on Pontiac.. And he could sit shotty with you for mottino on Sunday.
Come awwwwnnn J-money. :D

[troyboy162]

sounds good. glad we are hitting mottino since it looks like i will be doing gold mtn or something next weekend.

[Scuba]

To be fair, I know there's plenty of chit for you to get hung up on at Gold Mountain. :tongueout:

Mottino should be fun. I'm bummed I won't have my 35's but whatever.

And dude, you could always come to the FJ On the rock run next weekend :D

[troyboy162]

To be fair, I know there's plenty of chit for you to get hung up on at Gold Mountain. :tongueout:

Mottino should be fun. I'm bummed I won't have my 35's but whatever.

And dude, you could always come to the FJ On the rock run next weekend :D



ive never actually been stuck, but i have been known to give a few hi-lift and winch demos hahah.
i would like to do that fj run with ya but i promised joe id run with him.

[troyboy162]

rollin. see you guys soon. weather looks perfect for the weekend. sean, enjoy the chrome venders and trasharoo booth :P

[Seanz0rz]

rollin. see you guys soon. weather looks perfect for the weekend. sean, enjoy the chrome venders and trasharoo booth :P



hahaha i will!!! actually just looking to pick up some shackles and maybe a snatch block and maybe even a trasharoo! plus, after pismo, im a little worried about my transmission, and im getting an intermittent charging MIL on my dash, so im not sure i trust the alt to not die.