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paddlenbike
05-04-2011, 08:11 AM
So here's a question. I have a 2000 4Runner that was purchased new in Arizona and brought to California in 2001, so it has the Federal Emissions Package which has less smog equipment than a California one. So I posed the question to the Air Resources Board, "does my Federal emissions vehicle have to meet the same standards as a California one, and do it with less equipment?" Their answer was "no, you only have to meet federal standards." Well, comparing 4x4Mike's smog results to mine, my threshold values are nearly 3X more stringent. So, I would like to see your results to compare among model years, emission packages and year of test.

Please copy and paste the information below and fill it out for your vehicle:
Emissions package:
State in which you live:
Vehicle purchased brand new in:
Year of smog check:

Test | RPM |%CO2 | %O2 | HC Max | HC Meas | %CO Max | %CO Meas | NO Max | NO Meas
15 mph
25 mph


Here's mine:
Emissions package: FEDERAL
State in which you live: California
Vehicle purchased brand new in: Arizona
Year of smog check: 2011

-Test----RPM----%CO2---%O2----HC Max---HC Meas---%CO Max---%CO Meas---NO Max---NO Meas
15 mph--1433---14.9------0.1-------49----------42---------0.62---------0.21----------501---------415
25 mph--2396---14.8------0.0-------32----------15---------0.75---------0.07----------754----------53

Thanks for helping me out with this.

MTL_4runner
05-04-2011, 02:03 PM
Sorry can't help you out, we have no emissions testing requirements up here. :D

TheDurk
05-04-2011, 03:47 PM
Most of us can't help you. Few states test for specific emissions components. Here in NJ, like most states that test except California, they just use the on-board diagnostics to get a Pass/Fail for emissions for all OBDII (1996+) vehicles. The state computer plugs into the OBDII--no sniffer employed.

Seanz0rz
05-04-2011, 04:02 PM
ill see if i still have mine somewhere handy.

there are quite a few of us with 3rd gens in cali. some are cali emissions, some are not. some have 2 cats, some 1. this should be some useful information just to browse at.

i know i barely passed last time because of slowly failing o2's. im due for one in 10 months, so you might have to wait until jan or feb. for my report. i expect it to be about 1/4 of max levels.

paddlenbike
05-10-2011, 10:05 AM
Bump. No one in California has their smog results laying around?

BruceTS
06-01-2011, 12:35 PM
Year Model 1999
Emissions package: California
State in which you live: California
Vehicle purchased brand new in: California
Year of smog check: 2011

-Test----RPM----%CO2---%O2----HC Max---HC Meas---%CO Max---%CO Meas---NO Max---NO Meas
15 mph--1742---15.0------0.3-------49-----------1----------0.62----------0.01----------501----------0
25 mph--2396---15.1------0.2-------32-----------1----------0.75----------0.01----------754----------9

4x4mike
06-01-2011, 01:00 PM
Year Model 1999
Emissions package: California
State in which you live: California
Vehicle purchased brand new in: California
Year of smog check: 2011

-Test----RPM----%CO2---%O2----HC Max---HC Meas---%CO Max---%CO Meas---NO Max---NO Meas
15 mph--1742---15.0------0.3-------49-----------1----------0.62----------0.01----------501----------0
25 mph--2396---15.1------0.2-------32-----------1----------0.75----------0.01----------754----------9



Damn Ken, Bruce is clean. Get your polluting SUV out of our state.

paddlenbike
06-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Bruce, thanks for posting. Did you post your own HC Max, %CO2 Max and NO Max, or did you just leave my values in place?
If those are yours, weird. It means I am being held to California standards with less equipment. The Air Resources Board is telling me I should not be held to the same standards.

Crinale
06-01-2011, 06:58 PM
and thats with non cali-spec cats :P

iceman601
06-02-2011, 12:28 AM
Year Model 1997
Emissions package: California
State in which you live: California
Vehicle purchased brand new in: California
Year of smog check: 2009
*Supercharged*

-Test----RPM----%CO2---%O2----HC Max---HC Meas---%CO Max---%CO Meas---NO Max---NO Meas
15 mph--1993---15.3------0.0-------51-----------10----------0.65---------0.01---------512--------157
25 mph--1939---15.3------0.0-------35-----------8-----------0.79---------0.00---------765--------16

Non-Supercharged
Year of smog check: 2003

-Test----RPM----%CO2---%O2----HC Max---HC Meas---%CO Max---%CO Meas---NO Max---NO Meas
15 mph--1593---15.13------0.07-------51-----------50----------0.65----------0.07--------512------342
25 mph--1611---15.20-------0.0-------35-----------16----------0.79----------0.02--------765-------26

Crinale
06-02-2011, 01:52 AM
apparently your 4runner likes being supercharged... it runs significantly cleaner.. haha

paddlenbike
06-02-2011, 07:45 AM
Your threshold (pass/fail) values are only marginally higher, probably due the slightly older age of your 4Runner than Bruce's and mine. But one thing is certain, my non-California 4Runner pollutes way more (because it has less smog equipment) and yet I have to meet the same stringent requirement. I anticipate it will start causing me problems next time I have to smog it since I am nearing those threshold values.

4x4mike
06-02-2011, 08:55 AM
Just supercharge it and buy yourself a few years. Problem solved, my bill is in the mail.

bikerjosh
06-02-2011, 11:50 AM
Emissions package: Federal
State in which you live: California
Vehicle purchased brand new in: Arizona
Year of smog check: 2011

Test | RPM |%CO2 | %O2 | HC Max | HC Meas | %CO Max | %CO Meas | NO Max | NO Meas
15 mph 1641---14.7---0.0--------51------20--------.65--------.28------512---847fail
25 mph 1650---14.8---0.0--------35------15--------.79--------.24------765---697pass

S/C, URD 7th, 2.2 pulley, trd headers, magnaflow cat.
Since the test I've run some "snake oil" fuel cleaner, cleaned the MAF and throttle body, changed the oil/filter, replacing pcv, plugs and origninal wires this weekend. New upstream O2 sensor should be here by Monday. Hoping to retest next week.
Josh

paddlenbike
06-02-2011, 01:26 PM
Ah ha, another Federal Emissions truck imported into CA...thanks for posting! So your thresholds are higher than mine, but not by much. I will get together with the CARB guys and try and get an answer on what determines threshold values.

bikerjosh
06-03-2011, 10:10 AM
Ah ha, another Federal Emissions truck imported into CA...thanks for posting! So your thresholds are higher than mine, but not by much. I will get together with the CARB guys and try and get an answer on what determines threshold values.

Ah yes CARB, my arch nemesis. I've never gotten along with those folks. LOL

BruceTS
06-05-2011, 01:31 PM
Ken, the test results I posted are a copy of my actual results done a few weeks before my post, so yes those are the same emission standard that your truck is being held to.

Another note..... as mentioned the cats I'm running are not considered "legal" for sale here in Calif. They are the ones I got from eBay that I posted about in another thread.