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troyboy162
07-19-2011, 06:21 PM
So my truck took a nap on the trail this past weekend. Ive got it all gutted now and sourcing parts and auto body service. Here is some pics that have been requested.

Tbe pillers are miraculously ok. The pasenger rear door is finished, and the roof smashed the windsheild in.

ill keep this updated with progress. rear passenger door will be super easy to replace. the sunroof im hoping to use plexy glass, but the windsheild is beyond my skills. thats the part im trying to get an autobody shop to do. I can tell thats going to be tricky. autobody shops are used to dealing with insurance where they milk the job for maximum profit. me going in and saying things like "just straighten it out a bit and get a windsheild in there. ill do the rest" is probably not there ideal profitable job.

ttora4runner
07-19-2011, 06:33 PM
Wow, glad your okay.

YotaFun
07-19-2011, 06:39 PM
Really Glad your OK!
Are any of the pillars bent at all?
If so, I might start looking for another 4Runner to swap everything over too....

corax
07-19-2011, 06:44 PM
Geez man, you go big or don't go at all, right? Glad you didn't get hurt and it looks like your runner will live to see the dirt again. Are you planning to keep it streetable or going for trailer-queen status with it?

CJM
07-19-2011, 06:57 PM
Ouch! Glad your ok!

You could make the windshield straight again. Creative rigging with a hi lift and some 4x4s, straps, etc.

Seanz0rz
07-19-2011, 06:59 PM
lol i took body work to mean straightening a fender or something... wow!

glad you are ok! throw a highlift in the passenger seat and straighten the roof.

04 Rocko Taco
07-19-2011, 07:07 PM
x2 on the hi-lift to work the roof. We used a toyota forklift on my '84 when it barrel rolled on the interstate. Check my build thread in the garage for pics.

Glad you are okay. Looks like it will be a fun experience to fix.

NakSuKow
07-19-2011, 07:32 PM
WOW!! Glad you are OK TROY. I say cut the roof and cage it. Time for a soft top. What trail? and Any video?

troyboy162
07-19-2011, 07:46 PM
it may come down to me doing it myself if i cant get a good price on the work. the thing is i know my ability's and i will only be able to hack job it. i think its got potential to be really nice again with the right skill. I may be wrong though so im trying to figure things out. im taking it to a shop tomorrow thats local. hes the guy i showed the pictures to today and he started talking 6k-10k. the thing is hes assuming i want showroom condition and the pillars are wasted. but the pillars are good and ive got color matched paint already.

troyboy162
07-19-2011, 07:47 PM
WOW!! Glad you are OK TROY. I say cut the roof and cage it. Time for a soft top. What trail? and Any video?


haha it was just a optional or non line on bull frog. I hear yea on mad maxing the thing but its not too far gone yet.

Obi..
07-19-2011, 07:51 PM
WOW!! Glad you are OK TROY. I say cut the roof and cage it. Time for a soft top. What trail? and Any video?


Cut the roof, cage it, weld in a donor roof for the win? Glad you're ok.

troyboy162
07-19-2011, 08:07 PM
if the pillers were bent it would be the only choice, but they are all straight somehow

NakSuKow
07-19-2011, 08:36 PM
It doesn't look that bad from the inside. I bet you could do a pretty good job with a hi-lift....at least in the ball park. Then show it to a glass guy, maybe he will be able to just get it in.

Lee
07-20-2011, 06:26 AM
glad you're alright brother.

I learned a lot about straightening body panels to fit a windshield in when I flopped my 91 pickup. it's not as hard as you think. it can be tricky since most installers of windshields wont want to wait around for you to make tweaks to your fix. if you don't care about beauty, you can get it back in place with a sledge hammer and some good vice grips. if you can salvage your windshield enough to get a basic shape of what youre aiming for down, all the better... but you dont need that.

I'd say take a try yourself first, see if you can get a windshield installer to come by and give an install a shot and see how it comes out. Any installer worth dealing with will tell you immediately if leaks are a concern or if the fit is too far off.

Robinhood4x4
07-20-2011, 07:15 AM
Wait a minute! You can't come on here and post about a roll repair without posting pictures of the trail, the truck upside down and the recover effort!

4x4mike
07-20-2011, 08:30 AM
Glad to see you were able to walk away from your roll. Sounds like you'll have you work cut out for you :popcorn:

Do you have any pictures of it after it got back on it's tires?

j-money$$$
07-20-2011, 09:54 AM
We didnt get many pictures that night. we were mostly concerned with getting the truck back on its wheels and making sure troy was okay. I think he forgot to mention he rolled and didnt have the seat belt on. when it was all said and done I look down and see a pair of boots hanging out of the window on the door! Troy those quotes in the 6k+ range are just total BS. Like I said give me a call and ill roll up there and give ya a hand. And im sure Jay would be more than willing to give you a hand or let you borrow that dent puller that tacs on a piece that you use a slide hammer on. He was able to pull completely smushed rocker pannels out on his truck.

troyboy162
07-20-2011, 10:23 AM
Wait a minute! You can't come on here and post about a roll repair without posting pictures of the trail, the truck upside down and the recover effort!

you have to log in to see the pictures

4x4mike
07-20-2011, 10:41 AM
Somewhat off topic but I had a question about the pic with the interior stripped. The interior pic with the back side of the antenna, is that just the headliner removed? I'll have to dig it up but I thought 3rd gens have a big black tray that the glass retracts in.

I still have to do an NMO mount and haven't because I didn't know how to get around the tray. Your pic doesn't have one and temps me in just poking a hole up there.

some_odd_girl
07-20-2011, 11:35 AM
I think he forgot to mention he rolled and didnt have the seat belt on. when it was all said and done I look down and see a pair of boots hanging out of the window on the door!


I'd been wondering if he had his seat belt on. Yikes, so glad you're ok Troy! Must have been quite the experience.

L33T35T Tacoma
07-20-2011, 01:25 PM
It was only a matter of time. You're a mad man on those trails! I'm glad you're ok. This is no excuse to skip out on pismo this year!

troyboy162
07-20-2011, 02:28 PM
haha i wasnt being thrown around in the truck. I just grabbed the head rest and the steering wheel. i think the feet out the window was me crawling out when it stopped.

the antenna pic is just with the headliner removed like you suspected. the spot that antenna is in is just behind where the sunroof retracts in. you wont need to remove the whole headliner to install, but you will have to remove most of what holds it up.

pismo falls in line with another deployment unforutnatly, but id like to go!

troyboy162
07-20-2011, 05:11 PM
just got back from the body shop. the guy is still not interested in fixing it good enough... but he gave me advise hoping it would lead to him getting money. he told me to let the insurance know about the accident. have them obviously total it and write me a check for ~4k. then buy it back for ~1k.

does that sound like the thing to do here? it is after all a 4k truck underneith 5k of parts. it will get a salvage title but i dont care.

Robinhood4x4
07-20-2011, 05:36 PM
Wait a minute! You can't come on here and post about a roll repair without posting pictures of the trail, the truck upside down and the recover effort!

you have to log in to see the pictures


I saw the three that you posted.

CJM
07-20-2011, 06:52 PM
While it sounds like a good idea you just never know with CA DMV rules. If it were to be totaled and to have a salvage title how would it be scrutinized? Id see what your insurance says, talk to an adjuster and see what thier opinion is before you even make the claim.

That or find a back yard bodyshop guy. Its a shame your across the country, I know at least 3 guys who would do what you want for less than a grand easy and they would paint it too for a few bucks more!

But really get creative, use the hi-lift, some straps, a block and tackle in a tree and of course the sledge and BFH!

20005spd
07-20-2011, 06:56 PM
just got back from the body shop. the guy is still not interested in fixing it good enough... but he gave me advise hoping it would lead to him getting money. he told me to let the insurance know about the accident. have them obviously total it and write me a check for ~4k. then buy it back for ~1k.

does that sound like the thing to do here? it is after all a 4k truck underneith 5k of parts. it will get a salvage title but i dont care.
im not sure your insurance would cover an offroading rollover. but i guess its worth a shot considering the alternative is you fixing it or junking it. its hard to tell from the pics but it dosent look that that bad. i would probably try to fix it best you can, maybe do an exo cage after that since some of the strength of the body has been compromised. if it comes to it i might cut the entire top off and cage it. make a soft top or some kind of roof for it like some people said. depends if you need a super streetable rig or not. and for godsakes put your seatbelt on!!

j-money$$$
07-20-2011, 08:03 PM
Well I didnt know you had full coverage Troy. i say try to fix it yourself. There is a place down here in hesperia My friends have had good luck with and his prices seem good. I can get the number if you want

BruceTS
07-20-2011, 08:13 PM
I'll check tomorrow, but I might have a rear passenger door in my shed......

troyboy162
07-20-2011, 08:33 PM
bruce that would be great if you had one to sell.

j-money (jason lol) I would defiantly be interested in talking to someone not looking to milk a insurance job. that guy today kinda drove me nuts. he priced out a complete REPLACEMENT roof and passenger pilar. wouldnt even discuss trying to straighten what was there. the more i look at it, i know i can do it. i just want to see if someone who knows what they are doing can do it right.

j-money$$$
07-20-2011, 08:42 PM
my forum name is total junk, but i ended up rocking it on all of em :) Ill get the number. maybe he can do it cheap enough. I say screw the paint and spray it yourself, any flat color would be easy enough, and if you did flat dark green you would avoid having to paint the door jambs.

Its total bs about cutting the roof and putting a new on on there. You can pull it, get it close and bondo the rest. Plus the pilars are in great shape.

Obi..
07-20-2011, 10:37 PM
..pismo falls in line with another deployment unforutnatly, but id like to go!


*Do not, do not, do not let your C.O. know about this topic. "Attempting to destroy Gov't Property" carries a heavy fine. :spit:

I still stand by the "cage it" comment, especially now that the excuse is better than ever.

NakSuKow
07-21-2011, 07:25 AM
Build it into a KOH stock class vehicle.

troyboy162
07-21-2011, 07:39 AM
Haha its not dead yet!

j-money$$$
07-21-2011, 04:40 PM
ahh come on. Its basically allready there. You cant have modified suspension and 35's are the tire size. You will be like a slower version of Shannon Campbell with the ifs

BruceTS
07-25-2011, 05:14 PM
I checked and the door I have is for drivers side rear....sorry unless you need one.

troyboy162
07-25-2011, 08:39 PM
I checked and the door I have is for drivers side rear....sorry unless you need one.

thats ok i apreshiate you looking. when i smash that side I know who to talk to haha

YotasForLife
07-27-2011, 09:07 PM
Hey Troy I'm an insurance Agent. PM and ill give you some advice. (this is Drew)

troyboy162
07-28-2011, 05:44 AM
thanks but i think i have it all square now. a guy came over and took pictures yesterday. he explained alot about how it works and why they just cant rough it out and put in a window like i want. the truck will almost certainly be a total loss and ill buy it back based on the market value of the totaled '96 with 209k not including the mods ive done. i have the option of finding all the receipts for the mods and resubmitting the claim based on the actual value of the truck, but its not a show truck. i dont want to see mine or anyone elses money dumped into polishing a old desert runner.

after im able to buy it back with the money they have given me comes the hard part. the guy explained to me that most body shops will not be interested in just straightening it out for a window. beyond the fact that there is no money in that for them, they will likley not want to put there reputation on work that the general public would not be happy with.

so thats where im at with it. just waiting and then getting a game plan going how to get it fixed. if i have to do it myself i can see how i will go about it. im going to try and find some place though since im sure someone else could do a much better job

Crinale
07-28-2011, 02:34 PM
call up your buddies at Banner.. they might do it, knowing its an offroad truck

troyboy162
07-28-2011, 02:41 PM
i got told about a local guy here that will be able to help me from my plumber. wrightwood is total small town lol. my electrician gave me a good plumber and now my plumber gave me the perfect auto guy. ill be dropping her off this weekend.

Crinale
07-28-2011, 02:54 PM
:thumbup:

YotasForLife
07-28-2011, 10:23 PM
Cool, nice to hear its gona work out. I was gone say that we could just pull it out with a high lift :D

Jaydee914
07-30-2011, 04:34 PM
Man, as soon as I order my lift kit and tires, you go and roll your truck. Bad timing! Get that thing fixed and we'll head out soon.
And let me know if you need a hand with the truck. Maybe I can swing out one weekend.

Obi..
08-30-2011, 08:06 PM
So what's the status on your rig these days? Work in progress coming along?

Scuba
08-30-2011, 11:48 PM
He's got some shop doing the work for him. Straightening out the windshield frame and even painting the thing CARC green. But, Troy said this to me on FB this past Sunday... "truck still isn't done by the way. Its starting to be a problem."

I believe Troy said the person who is doing it (for a great price, BTW) pushed his truck aside for higher dollar corporate vehicles and repairs.

Troy, if this is TMI then LMK.

troyboy162
08-31-2011, 12:32 AM
thats the story. I called the guy today and told him i needed the truck for the weekend regardless of if its done. He thinks he might have it done anyhow, but dam Ive got the shakes

Scuba
08-31-2011, 01:10 AM
Hmm, good to know. I was actually thinking about doing a night run to the hammers with you but realized A. your junk is still down and B. you've got the underground trip.
Sigh. :(

troyboy162
08-31-2011, 01:24 AM
dang it! yeah this weekend is the UE trip, but next weekend is wide open. I was already thinking a melloish run to take a lady out

Scuba
09-18-2011, 01:20 PM
Heres some pictures from the section Troy rolled on.
I saw it and I too didn't think it looked hard.
From what I was told by my buddy Jason, Troy just had the wrong approach and goosed it at the wrong time. :(

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/Sycosurfer150/Truck/Cougar%20Buttes%209-17-2011/DSCN2490.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/Sycosurfer150/Truck/Cougar%20Buttes%209-17-2011/DSCN2495.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/Sycosurfer150/Truck/Cougar%20Buttes%209-17-2011/DSCN2502.jpg

troyboy162
09-18-2011, 03:14 PM
sweet! ill try it again soon. of all the crazy lines we have tried haha

Scuba
09-18-2011, 03:21 PM
sweet! ill try it again soon. of all the crazy lines we have tried haha


Lol for sure. We've deff done a lot worse.

Good Times
09-19-2011, 12:37 PM
Troy, you've gotta post up photos of it all back together! :)

Though I did spot a few already but still keep it in the same thread :P

troyboy162
09-20-2011, 03:37 AM
This is the only one i have handy

4x4mike
09-20-2011, 06:13 AM
Man, without knowing what went into the repair that looks great. Did you do a lot of work yourself?

Good Times
09-20-2011, 09:45 AM
looks like a brand spankin new truck!

troyboy162
09-20-2011, 11:18 AM
it removed and installed the interrior myself but left all the metal and painting to the shop. he did do a amazing job making it look normal. close up there are a few spots but im back in the game without too much down time or cash.

i still need to do some electrical work to the replacment door.

Banner76
09-23-2011, 01:35 PM
Man that looks nice. Need some character on the nice paint.