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Thread: Lithium jump packs to save the day?

  1. #11
    I'm not awesome with batteries but could lithium tech replace lead acid for a vehicle? Seems like a great device to have around in the winter time if you live where it's really cold.

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  2. #12
    Ford and Samsung had a battery at ces I think. It was on autoblog not long ago. Looks promising.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2014/06/09/f...-brakes-video/
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  3. #13
    There are lithium motorcycle batteries, but I haven't heard of lithium car batteries yet though.
    And there's a thread about several of these lithium jump starters over on Expedition Portal (not t4r, http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...d.php?t=119464

  4. #14
    Lots of them on the market...The micro-start (price drop on XP1 to $111 right now on amazon) is the only one I can find any real testing and first hand reviews on. These others are kinda randoms. They certainly look to have similar construction and in the spirit of Chinese things they may be made by the same people or just pure cloned by other Chinese. Hard to tell from the descriptions what differences there are between them all. Most all have the same LED optic, the same 5 led charge indicator, and same 200/400 amp ratings. The clamps seem to be about three different types.

    Bestek
    http://www.amazon.com/13600mAh-Multi...5RY36J06SJJD6Y

    "hot sale"
    http://www.amazon.com/15000mAH-Start...EV9MGF8W68N67S

    ABN
    http://www.amazon.com/PowerAny-Multi...EV9MGF8W68N67S

    PowerGo
    http://www.amazon.com/PowerGo-Portab...TDJE9ZRVYV3Y58

    Foxnova same as hot sale?
    http://www.amazon.com/Foxnovo%C2%AE-...TDJE9ZRVYV3Y58

    PowerAll
    http://www.amazon.com/PowerAll-PBJS1...5RY36J06SJJD6Y

    Jackco
    http://www.amazon.com/Jackco-ZT50400...ENNVF5NE5S75BM

    On the go
    http://www.amazon.com/Compact-Starte...9VPNEW4TWREXAT

    Jumbl
    http://www.amazon.com/Jumbl-Portable...9VPNEW4TWREXAT
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  5. #15
    Electric cars that are powered by lithium ion traction batteries, still use a lead acid battery under the hood to run the 12V drive accessories. Lithiums degrade with high heat exposure, so I'm guessing the high heat under the hood of a combustion engine would not be desireable for long term lithium ion battery capacity. (It's not good for a lead acid either, so I don't know...)

  6. #16
    I think it might be a durability issue now that I think about it. Lithium batteries are widely used in rc cars but you have make sure they have airflow on the battery as you can "burn" them up when they are discharging at such a high rate.

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  7. #17
    Lead acid batteries are forgiving. You can discharge them and most times they will come back. You can charge them with varying amounts of voltage, over a wide range of temps. They will take vibration and heat well too. Li ion at best just fail to hold a charge when they go bad. At worst, fiery death. They are far too volitile for the types of abuse that a typical starting battery suffers at the hands of owners who barely change the oil on interval, let alone ever check the battery.

    Now, that's not to say it won't happen soon. But I don't see myself buying a starting battery from auto zone with Li Ion stamped on the side.
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  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Seanz0rz View Post
    Lead acid batteries are forgiving. You can discharge them and most times they will come back. You can charge them with varying amounts of voltage, over a wide range of temps. They will take vibration and heat well too. Li ion at best just fail to hold a charge when they go bad. At worst, fiery death. They are far too volitile for the types of abuse that a typical starting battery suffers at the hands of owners who barely change the oil on interval, let alone ever check the battery.

    Now, that's not to say it won't happen soon. But I don't see myself buying a starting battery from auto zone with Li Ion stamped on the side.
    I think battery tech might develop again here soon. That's one good thing about hybrids and electrics. They are pushing battery development in new directions.

    I didn't know about fiery death. Think I will stay away from them for the truck.

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