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Thread: Kryptos shelf project

  1. #21
    Congrats. Time to have some fun.

  2. #22
    Well I definitely have worked a lot today but sadly not on the shelf. I need a table and cart first. Made pretty good progress on both.

    Yesterday I picked up 2x2 and 1x2 tubing for the table frame and legs. I forgot that junk was expensive lol. Anyway now my project settles into lots of measuring.

    Today I cut the legs and tabletop frame and pieced together most of the cart. Still have a little cutting to do on the cart but I will be finished with the cart tomorrow provided I don't have any major complications.

    Sunday a much better welder than I is going to help me with the table frame. I really want it dead level. The table in the pic is warped badly.




    Oh and this came in the mail today as well. Super excited to start working with it.
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    Dang, that sounds fun! I pulled my bad tire off and maybe I'll go take it in this weekend or next. My back is hurting too bad to work on the truck today, probably tomorrow too. I have some other stuff I can do though.

    How thick is that table top? looks like 1/4". You can probably clamp some of those tubing pieces to it to flatten it out while it's welded, that might get it a bit flatter.
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  5. #25
    I wish I could but I've got my pennies invested in steel and tools right now! It will take me a few months to recover. It does look like fun though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seanz0rz View Post
    Dang, that sounds fun! I pulled my bad tire off and maybe I'll go take it in this weekend or next. My back is hurting too bad to work on the truck today, probably tomorrow too. I have some other stuff I can do though.

    How thick is that table top? looks like 1/4". You can probably clamp some of those tubing pieces to it to flatten it out while it's welded, that might get it a bit flatter.
    The table top is 1/4" and I am getting some help from a guy who welds much better than I to give me a hand with it. I want to make sure I'm as level as I can be and I will be trying to add in a table leveling system after I get it built so I can work on my slanted driveway a little easier. I am definitely putting a level frame together complete with legs before the tabletop gets added on. Total with casters the table will be 39" tall which is ok for me. It could be a little shorter without killing me but right now the table I'm working on is a total of 30" and it's killing me. My back is very sore.

    Weell today I learned about the mess that is flux lol. Honestly it wasn't too bad and while it can be annoying I weld outdoors mostly so there you have it.

    I worked on my welder cart today and almost finished it. I need to add in some castors and a shelf for it and I will be done with the design. I wanted it to be low to the ground since I have no idea whether my welding skills are good or not and taller means easier to tip over.


    Since the design is completely from scrap I didn't have a wide selection of sizes or plentiful lengths in the sizes so I got creative......really creative.

    My first attempt at overhead....needs work. I'm still having more trouble with a simple horizontal below for some reason. Some turn out fine and then some don't look fine.

    Showing signs of improvement at least. I think some of my welds being sucky had to do with how clean the metal was. I will definitely want to get at least one more of the magnet squares. Those are handy to have for tacking things in place.

    Where I stopped for the night. The welder sits at an angle quite comfy although the single arm is slightly off center but it actually worked out in my favor since the gas inlet is on the left side. I had to cut the rear support to make way for the gas inlet.

    Still need to make a bottle holder, gun holster, shelf up top, and a ground/liner holder....oh yeah it needs wheels too. Amazon looked like they had some decent ones for about 24 bucks or so.
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    In Progress:
    Tundra/Rear Disc Brakes w/parking brake
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    1st Gen Rollbar Shelf

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    So I finished the table....kind of at least. It's on wheels which is a big improvement over dragging the table around. I tried everything to get the bend out of the 1/4 plate but it still has a 1/8" rise in the middle.....grrrrrrr. I suppose this is why most guys that build a "welding table" use 1/2" plate instead of 1/4".


    At first I was having trouble welding the .060 to the .120 and I should have listened to my gut and just went a hair higher on voltage and kept the wire speed the same. I tried it later on and my beads smoothed right out.

    Square so far! I had one leg that decided to be on it's own program and kick out just a hair but it did not upset the level of the table so I left a sleeping dog lie.

    All 4 legs connected! It's actually really square at this point but I want to add a set of drawers under the table top so I left one side out of the bracing. Coincidentally this is the same side with the 1/8" rise....

    I brought the table into a really square situation and I was pleasantly surprised to find that it was very level. I might be out of level by 1/64" but it is really slight.

    Caster feet. For some reason when I'm working with the thick stuff this Hobart just loves it. Really easy to get a clean smooth arc that just flows. The bumpiness comes me missing my start/stop points and having to go back over a section.

    Tacking and beading the table top. I had one section pop loose but two clamps later and letting the welds cool completely helped me out.

    Word of caution....don't buy INETUB flux wire. This was under the first layer of wire and messed me up really good. There were two sections of wire twisted together and yeah...I had to dump about 50ft of wire to get to good spool again. On the other hand it welded quite well.

    All finished for now. I will work on the drawers slowly but I am happy for the most part. The table might be 2" too tall but as most of my welding projects are not tall items I think the table height of 39" is great. I would like to add a shelf at the bottom at some point but for now I have enough black boogers to go around.

    Just another shot where there are height items to compare to. I might just get some different casters to lower the height a tad and use these on my welder cart (overkill much?) lol.
    98 3rz 4x4 5spd- Monstalined, 99 Talls, 4.30 E-locker, Extra Lights
    In Progress:
    Tundra/Rear Disc Brakes w/parking brake
    Roof Rack/Rear Ladder
    Sliders
    1st Gen Rollbar Shelf

  7. #27
    Looking good. Dialing in voltage and speed kind of takes awhile. On my Lincoln I pretty much leave it at the same speed regardless of the voltage. At higher voltage the wire gets eaten up faster but I tend to adjust my pass speed and not weld long passes.

    I know what you mean about the black boggers. I can hardly do anything in the garage without getting them.

    As for wire I'd invest in the largest spool your machine will take. On the HF welder I started out with I modified it and removed the lid in order to run a 5 pound spool. The small spools tend to get all hairy towards in the end and can cause feeding issues. A larger spool lengthens the intervals between the rats nests.

    I had a grand idea of respooling the 1 pound reels from the 5 pound and it was a sh*t show. I wasted so much wire. That's when I made the mods to the HF machine to run the bigger one.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by 4x4mike View Post
    Looking good. Dialing in voltage and speed kind of takes awhile. On my Lincoln I pretty much leave it at the same speed regardless of the voltage. At higher voltage the wire gets eaten up faster but I tend to adjust my pass speed and not weld long passes.

    I know what you mean about the black boggers. I can hardly do anything in the garage without getting them.

    As for wire I'd invest in the largest spool your machine will take. On the HF welder I started out with I modified it and removed the lid in order to run a 5 pound spool. The small spools tend to get all hairy towards in the end and can cause feeding issues. A larger spool lengthens the intervals between the rats nests.

    I had a grand idea of respooling the 1 pound reels from the 5 pound and it was a sh*t show. I wasted so much wire. That's when I made the mods to the HF machine to run the bigger one.
    I was actually kicking myself because I didn't buy a 10 lbs spool but it was good to find out whether it was quality wire or not. Besides the rats nest I love the inetub. Welds a lot better than the hobart stuff. I will get into gas later but for now flux is fine. I do understand the pita that is flux. I really dislike cleaning in between each pass (if necessary).

    Also figured out that my voltage recommendation runs a little cold. Once I got my circles and stitching a little more under control turning the voltage up helped a lot with the thin wall to 1/4" welding. I ended up running a little slower on wire speed as with the higher heat it can blow through very easily and the slower wire speed seems to help? I can't explain it but it seems to be working. Tomorrow I will be adding the drawers and if the wife leaves me alone for enough time I might get to the shelf lol. If not Christmas Day is going to be a slow day for us and the weather is in the 70s.

    On another note I am now a Microsoft certified specialist in word 2010. Still working on the rest but I have to do something to keep developing professionally.
    98 3rz 4x4 5spd- Monstalined, 99 Talls, 4.30 E-locker, Extra Lights
    In Progress:
    Tundra/Rear Disc Brakes w/parking brake
    Roof Rack/Rear Ladder
    Sliders
    1st Gen Rollbar Shelf

  9. #29
    Congrats on the cert! Everything matters.
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  10. #30
    It's easy to blow through thinner stuff with flux. For sheet metal and thin stuff gas is much easier. Congratulations on you certification. For half of this year, half of my spare time has been classes and testing for certifications and qualifications.

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