Yet another mod resigns from YT...

[Paul H.]

Personally, I have no problem with foul language at work or when talking with friends who also curse but when you find the need to type the words in a post, then that shows your limited language and upbringing. But thats just me which is why I have never cursed in a post.

And so goes the definition of hypocrisy. With the typed word, you have the luxury off a word filter, no such luck with the spoken word. Is the argument that typing requires premeditation? So does choosing spoken words. I don't care how comfortable someone is cursing, they are still selecting words.

I'm not defending it, just pointing out the flaw in your logic.

You missed my reasoning. I don't curse when I am around those that may find it wrong or be offended by it. It is called self control. I usually curse only when I hurt myself or get really pissed off. By the way, isn't foul language, whether filtered or unfiltered, against the rules here?
And as for the slamming of YT overhere. Some of you that have been banned over there really deserved it because you blatantly violated rules. I sure hope that if you did the same here, you would also be banned. Lets all grow up be civilized, OK.

[rocket]

FWIW, this thread was rekindled by a YT mod with some backhanded comments that needed to be addressed.

I'm sorry for coming back to this thread but the above statement is wrong. So i will defend my stance.

For one, i never revived this thread (a whole 3-4 threads below the top) and for two, my "backhanded" comments NEVER made personal attacks or insults toward anyone, yet thats what others resorted to.

I clearly said stop the senseless BS hate and bashing of a Toyota community that exists for the same reason UY does. If thats what you thrive on then keep it going. Just realize many out there are consistently seeing the level of hypocritical twisting and changing of direction thats pointed directly toward the VERY same people and members that you once stood for.
Allowing the bashing of another forum is about the lowest and uncontrollable sign of weakness possible.

This entire thread does absolutely nothing except create detrimental boundaries between Toyota enthusiasts. Wheres the sense in that?! I've yet to see any bandwagon follower have an factual reason to belittle Yotatech -people that own a TOYOTA with a likewise interest.

Look real closely at whats being said by the increasing number of the hand me down spoon fed cry babies that are only here to create and continue the drama. Might be a good time to put a stop to it. Some are "in it" for fame, yet look more like tools.

...i forgot say Thank You to the two staff members that sent me an email rather than jumping on the train here. I really respect that to the utmost.

[Cebby]

FWIW, this thread was rekindled by a YT mod with some backhanded comments that needed to be addressed.

I'm sorry for coming back to this thread but the above statement is wrong. So i will defend my stance.

For one, i never revived this thread (a whole 3-4 threads below the top) and for two, my "backhanded" comments NEVER made personal attacks or insults toward anyone, yet thats what others resorted to.

Go ahead and defend your stance - I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to Molly's post. Thanks for being so quick to jump in though.

I clearly said stop the senseless BS hate and bashing of a Toyota community that exists for the same reason UY does. If thats what you thrive on then keep it going. Just realize many out there are consistently seeing the level of hypocritical twisting and changing of direction thats pointed directly toward the VERY same people and members that you once stood for.

Nothing hypocritical about our position, nor are we changing direction. We've stayed the course. I don't have a problem with the YT membership, just wish some would open their eyes.

Allowing the bashing of another forum is about the lowest and uncontrollable sign of weakness possible.

These are the kind of backhanded comments directed at our staff that we've been talking about. Normally they are on YT, but now it's here. We've addressed the blatant bashing and the blatant flaming here. Our members are testing their boundaries with their new found freedom of speech not available elsewhere. A few stepped over the line and were corrected. The funny thing is that in the above statement, you are both criticizing us and hypocritically performing the same act.

This entire thread does absolutely nothing except create detrimental boundaries between Toyota enthusiasts. Wheres the sense in that?! I've yet to see any bandwagon follower have an factual reason to belittle Yotatech -people that own a TOYOTA with a likewise interest.

Look real closely at whats being said by the increasing number of the hand me down spoon fed cry babies that are only here to create and continue the drama. Might be a good time to put a stop to it. Some are "in it" for fame, yet look more like tools.

This part of your post might be the biggest piece of hogwash I've come across (as you continue to take your backhanded jabs at our membership - to quote you "hand me down spoon fed cry babies" - real nice - more hypocrisy). You are taking this thread and yourself way too seriously if you think that there are "detrimental boundaries" being created by letting members speak their mind (especially those with valid beefs).

[bamachem]

FWIW, this thread was rekindled by a YT mod with some backhanded comments that needed to be addressed.

I'm sorry for coming back to this thread but the above statement is wrong. So i will defend my stance.

For one, i never revived this thread (a whole 3-4 threads below the top) and for two, my "backhanded" comments NEVER made personal attacks or insults toward anyone, yet thats what others resorted to.

I clearly said stop the senseless BS hate and bashing of a Toyota community that exists for the same reason UY does. If thats what you thrive on then keep it going. Just realize many out there are consistently seeing the level of hypocritical twisting and changing of direction thats pointed directly toward the VERY same people and members that you once stood for.
Allowing the bashing of another forum is about the lowest and uncontrollable sign of weakness possible.

This entire thread does absolutely nothing except create detrimental boundaries between Toyota enthusiasts. Wheres the sense in that?! I've yet to see any bandwagon follower have an factual reason to belittle Yotatech -people that own a TOYOTA with a likewise interest.

Look real closely at whats being said by the increasing number of the hand me down spoon fed cry babies that are only here to create and continue the drama. Might be a good time to put a stop to it. Some are "in it" for fame, yet look more like tools.

...i forgot say Thank You to the two staff members that sent me an email rather than jumping on the train here. I really respect that to the utmost.

If you want to remain on good terms here and continue to be allowed to participate, then I would strongly suggest that you control your name-calling and just let this thread die.

If you would simply leave it alone, it will eventually slide to the back burner and we can all get on with our lives. Every time you come here, you don't defend yourself as much as you belittle others.

Take a large helping of your own advise and STFU about this and other heated topics and stick to posting fruitful comments. If you want to truly see this put to bed, then how about offering ANYTHING other than strife or pot stirring when you come here. You're now a moderator at TOF, so you're "one of them" whether you like it or not. You are representing that entire community, and quite frankly, you are also representative of the very reasons that so many of us are glad that we left.

In short, and this friendly advise also goes for some of you who have been flaming others and getting into the name-calling game - THIS IS GETTING OLD. Please stop the nonsense. You're welcome to vent, but PLEASE do so in a mature and decent manner, one in which this community would not be ashamed of. We will not close threads, delete threads, and we will not censor our membership, but some of you need to just vent your frustrations and move on. There are much BETTER things in life than calling people names and worring about internet tough-guy smack talk. There's this thing called Karma, she's a BlTCH, and she'll have her say in the end...

[Texas Jim]

This has turned into a topic of one's Honor & IntegrityI want it known, if I am asked a question, I do the best to answer it honestly. I still believe in "To tell The Truth, The Whole Truth and, Nothing But The Truth, So Help You God?" My answer to that question has always been a resounding, "I DO!"

Even if it has cost me in the long run, I know that the truth is the only way a person can be honest with themselves!!

There is the subject of Honor has been brought up also, I know that today that word doesn't seem to mean much to many people. I have been a Bail Bonding agent for 5 years. In that time I have bonded out around 750 people. What that means is that I Promise the Court system that these people will appear in court like they are suppose to. If they do not appear. I have 60 days to go and find them and bring them into jail, or pay the court system the full amount of the bond. I have only paid that one time for $325 on a student who had been arrested for trespassing. I knew when I Bonded him out, he would never return. He was a student in Colorado, and I knew he would never be back. I told his Father in NJ that, when I spoke with him. His Father begged me to get his son out, and he would pay the forfeiture fee up front. I Honored the man's wishes and got him out of jail and put his son back on the bus to Boulder!! I didn't have to do that. I did that because his Father asked me to make sure his son got on a bus to Bolder. I spent the whole night with his kid who was Bipolar, and not taking his meds.

You see people all of the time swearing to be truthful, they are not. They do not have any Honor! That seems to be the real reason of this thread!! Who's telling the truth and who is not!!

I know that I was banned from the other site because of something I had been doing for a long time. Does that annoy me? Of course it does! Do I want to make sure that those accusing me of being completely wrong about what I was doing, pay for their dishonesty!!! I certainally do!!!
Will I be able to make those responsible for saying I am dishonerable, and lying, pay for their blat-en attack on me just because they could!! That I do not know.

As far as creating detrimental boundaries, between Toyota enthusiasts, I really doubt that has happened! There are people who are responsible for their own actions! It's not the whole community of Yota-tech!! Those individuals are who they are!! They know who they are, and it's on their head!! Not the other members of Yota-tech!!

You live your life as a good and decent person, and I can promise you that people will and do take advantage of that! Should that ruein a whole situation for other's? Of course not!! Time and space will make sure the world is round.

Someone, took it apron themselves to delete a post that I had posted here. I don't know when it happened, but needless to say they decided to do it with out contacting me. I had been asked by Cebby to review it, and then decide what to do. I responded to Cebby that I would, and I had been receiving porn spam. (no I hadn't been on any of those sites!) I was getting tired of it. That's all.

That is all I have to say about this whole situation, I really am tired of it, but I am not going to lie down and be ran over by crap. I would not expect any of you to do that nor should you expect me to!! TJ

[neliconcept]

FWIW, this thread was rekindled by a YT mod with some backhanded comments that needed to be addressed.

I'm sorry for coming back to this thread but the above statement is wrong. So i will defend my stance.

For one, i never revived this thread (a whole 3-4 threads below the top) and for two, my "backhanded" comments NEVER made personal attacks or insults toward anyone, yet thats what others resorted to.

I clearly said stop the senseless BS hate and bashing of a Toyota community that exists for the same reason UY does. If thats what you thrive on then keep it going. Just realize many out there are consistently seeing the level of hypocritical twisting and changing of direction thats pointed directly toward the VERY same people and members that you once stood for.
Allowing the bashing of another forum is about the lowest and uncontrollable sign of weakness possible.

This entire thread does absolutely nothing except create detrimental boundaries between Toyota enthusiasts. Wheres the sense in that?! I've yet to see any bandwagon follower have an factual reason to belittle Yotatech -people that own a TOYOTA with a likewise interest.

Look real closely at whats being said by the increasing number of the hand me down spoon fed cry babies that are only here to create and continue the drama. Might be a good time to put a stop to it. Some are "in it" for fame, yet look more like tools.

...i forgot say Thank You to the two staff members that sent me an email rather than jumping on the train here. I really respect that to the utmost.

here is the thing, I have bumped more threads above this to create this issue and let it go to way. IF YOU WERE SMART YOU WOULD DO THE SAME. Here is my reasoning, You are a moderator now, you represent a community, your actions represent that community, forget about the actions over here and go on your mary way and you may come ahead and look more profound and repsected, that respect you have lost from me now because of bringing this thread back up to the top like i was trying to get pushed down once again.

I dont have anything to ad about my banning over there and im not going to defend myself there, why? I dont give a flying ####! My reign has ended there and im done

now this is my absolute last post here, even if yall bicker back and forth again, im done, because i wanna see it pushed down and the issue delt with.

oh and btw good luck and i really do mean it. i dont hate others, you have a job to do and i think you will do a good job at it. but coming over here doesnt help that situation at all. just remember that.

[Ric]

if I am asked a question, I do the best to answer it honestly.

Im with ya, to bad we cant do that on TOF, you`ll get your hand slapped..

[Cebby]

Someone, took it apron themselves to delete a post that I had posted here. I don't know when it happened, but needless to say they decided to do it with out contacting me. I had been asked by Cebby to review it, and then decide what to do. I responded to Cebby that I would, ...

Sorry about that TJ - I did contact you shortly after you posted - this is our first course of action, to ALWAYS contact the poster first to let them review it and make any necessary edits based on an objection we might have - as I reiterated to you via another PM, it took too long for you to get back to us, so we had to take action. I'm sure you understand and trust our judgment on the matter. This was likely an anomaly with timing of the post and the PM working against us.