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Thread: Synthetic Winch Line ?

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    Re: Synthetic Winch Line ?

    Very true. I have seen Sythetic break too, but I have never seen and pray that I never see any wire winch line break. I have sen pictures and heard the stories. Each winchline has its advantages.

    Sythetic Winch line has it pro's and cons:

    Advantages:
    • Safer - harmless if it breaks
    • Safer - frayed steel cable will rip your hands
    • Stronger (size for size)
    • Lighter Weight than wire
    • Easier to handle - makes complex rigging and re-rigging much quicker
    • Doesn't damage itself when criss-crossed on the drum
    • Can be spliced if it breaks
    • Doesn't rust


    Disadvantages:
    • Expensive
    • Vulnerable to cutting and abrasion - care needed when rigging and possible additions of gaurds
    • Apparent softness makes users forget basic winch safety (gloves, hands clear etc.)


    Obviously, there are circumstances under which steel is better, for example if you can't avoid chafing.

    Unless it gets snagged, cut or melted, synthetic rope will take much more tension than steel cable of the same diameter, without breaking. More importantly, if it does break, there are no lethal ends flying around.
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  2. #12

    Re: Synthetic Winch Line ?

    I know everyone says that Syn. can/does reciol, but not near as bad as wire, does anyone know of videos of this ?
    Iremember seeing a video of Syn. line breaking, but cant remember where I seen it.
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  3. #13

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    If I remember correctly, there were some videos of syn line breaking floating around Pirate a while ago.
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  4. #14

    Re: Synthetic Winch Line ?

    Speaking about ropes lines and cables.

    http://hnsa.org/doc/nstm/ch613.pdf

    Here is some good info that far surpasses just simple winch line that some may find useful.

    reason i found this was i had Tattle tails on the mind after reading the comments about line breakage.


    also while on the subject.

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    good stuff.
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    Re: Synthetic Winch Line ?

    I had been running 5/16" amsteel blue from Rockstomper for years, snapped the line 3 times. Twice from getting cut on sharp rocks and the last time was when it snapped due to degradation, but the line was well used, mostly at work pulling stuck vehicles and such.

    The video of when I snapped the line during the last recovery on it......
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPp5Eqa5C7Y

    This time I got 3/8" Viking Fireline from winchline.com, I must say it does spool up much easier than the smaller line and very pleased with it. If I need the extra distance, my old line was converted into an extention. One note......UV is killer on the line, so before I installed the new line I sealed all the holes where sunlight could come in contact and tape the front fairlead when not used.
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  7. #17

    Re: Synthetic Winch Line ?

    I use 3/8" on an 8000# winch. In the areas I need a winch, sand and mud and muck are the norm and a protective sheath, unless it's the entire length of the syn line, is pretty much useless. So, the 3/8" stuff buys me a little more time with abrasion and wear.

    I use MasterPull, but I'll be switching to Viking next time, I do believe. I like the way the Viking line attaches to the drum better than the MP line.

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