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Thread: Suspension and Body Lift FAQ

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    Suspension and Body Lift FAQ

    With the variety of lift applications available how do you decide? The decision comes from within. What do you want to do with your vehicle? Are you simply looking for a means to look cool or give it a more aggressive look / leveled look? Do you want to take your vehicle places where you need that additional lift? How much do you want to lift? How big a tire do you want to stuff? Do you plan to add additional weight? What is your budget? Depending on many of these questions, your application can vary.

    Keeping all this in perspective, here's a good point of reference. There are 3 different suspension lift technologies available: Spacer, Coil and Shock or leaf (Tacoma only), Coilover. They all perform the same function... LIFT. The biggest difference is how each techonologies are applied to the existing stock system and the final cost.
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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Spacer Technology
    This technology retains the stock suspension. Adding the spacer to the stock suspension will give you lift (height determined by size of spacer installed). Depending on which manufacturer you decide to use, some will utilize a combination of spacers that sit on top of the stock suspension called top out spacers and/or inside the stock suspension called preload spacers. The spacers looks like a hockey puck built out of polyurethane, steel or alumnimum. Depending on which manufacturer you go with, the material used will vary. They all perform the same function regardless of the material used.

    If you are considering adding additional weight up front (bumper/winch/lights etc) I would stay away from this technology as you will experience a harsher ride due to the added weight. An average aftermarket bumper-and-winch combo will weight approximately 150-200# so bear this in mind.

    Costs on this technology are very cheap (under $500). It is the cheapest solution available. This setup is ideal for those who want the quick-lift fix to add larger tires. Since you are essentially adding either a combination of preload spacer/top out spacer the overall ride feel will firm up. This is expected by the design of the technology applied.

    Note for 4runner owners with XREAS Suspension: XREAS owners that want to maintain their XREAS system will be limited to the spacer technology. Unfortunately no other solutions are available. This means that the XREAS system can be removed safely and reinstalled at a later date with no negative effects on the system itself.


    ManufacturerFrontRearVehicle ApplicationPart Number(s)
    Cornfed Suspension 3"2"4runner and FJ CruiserCustom Sizes available (1-3")
    Cornfed Suspension2"Tacoma3A-Taco-05-2"
    Cornfed Suspension3"Tacoma3A-Taco-05-3"
    Daystar Suspension2.5"2.5"4runner and FJ CruiserKT09122BK
    Daystar Suspension2.5"2.5" blocks TacomaKT09120BK
    Revtek Suspension3"2"4runner and FJ Cruiser431
    Revtek Suspension3"3" blocksTacoma426
    Toy Tec Lifts0.75"4runner, FJ Cruiser and TacomaTOP1-T

    Toy Tec Lifts2"4runner, FJ Cruiser and TacomaTAC2
    Toy Tec Lifts2.5" 4runner, FJ Cruiser and TacomaTAC25
    Toy Tec Lifts3"4runner, FJ Cruiser and Tacoma TAC3
    Toy Tec Lifts2"4runner and FJ CruiserRCC2.0
    Toy Tec Lifts1" BlocksTacomaBK-1
    Toy Tec Lifts2" AALTacomaTAC-AL
    Tuff Country3"4runner and FJ Cruiser52000
    Tuff Country3"3" AALTacoma52907

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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Spacer Technology - Sample Vehicle Application(s)

    Cornfed Suspension


    Daystar Suspension






    Revtek Suspension








    Toy Tech Lifts
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    Tuff Country








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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Coil and Shock Technology
    This technology replaces the stock suspension. The look and feel is identical to the stock suspension as it replaces the coil and shock. Depending on which configuration you decide on, the ride feel will be near identical to stock.

    If you are considering adding additional weight up front (bumper/winch/lights etc) I recommend you look into stiffer coils to accomodate for the addition of the weight. The ride should stay within the stock feel with the adjustments made to the coils. If you considering building an expedition vehicle I highly recommend the coil and shock as you need not worry about the complexity of the system.

    Costs for this technology is average (approx. $750 for all 4 corners. Tacoma's only require the fronts)

    Coils

    ManufacturerFrontRearVehicle ApplicationNotes and Comments
    All Pro Offroad2"4runner and FJ Cruiser4700FJ-AP
    Deaver Springs2"4runner and FJ Cruiser
    Donahoe Racing4runner and FJ Cruiser#5-2700
    Downey Offroad2.5"4runner and FJ Cruiser
    OME - Medium Duty#884 #895 4runner, FJ Cruiser and Tacoma
    OME - Heavy Duty#885#8964runner, FJ Cruiser and Tacoma
    OME - Extra Heavy Duty#886#8974runner, FJ Cruiser and Tacoma


    Shocks
    ManufacturerTypeFrontRearVehicle ApplicationNotes and Comments
    All Pro OffroadWalker Evans Shocks9" Non-Reservior4runner and FJ Cruiser8510-WE-S
    All Pro OffroadWalker Evans Shocks9" Adjustable Reservior4runner and FJ Cruiser8510-WE-S-CA
    BilsteinMonotube Shocks10" Remote Resevoir4runner and FJ Cruiser#7110SB, Soft:255/70, Medium:275/78, Hard: 360/80 valving, 25.25" extended, 15" compressed
    Donahoe RacingMonotube Shocks4runner and FJ Cruiser#5-7510, 23.89" extended, 14.65" compressed
    Downey OffroadDoetsch Tech Shocks10"4runner and FJ CruiserMV-12, 25" extended, 15" compressed
    OMETwintube ShockN140S4runner, FJ Cruiser and Tacoma
    OME - SoftTwintube ShockN1414runner and FJ Cruiser22.5" extended, 13.77" compressed
    OME - MediumTwintube ShockN1424runner and FJ Cruiser22.5" extended, 13.77" compressed
    OME - HardTwintube ShockN71E4runner and FJ Cruiser24.18" extended, 14.43" compressed


    Kits
    ManufacturerTypeFrontRearVehicle ApplicationNotes and Comments
    All Pro Offroad Walker Evans Kit2" Adjustable Reservoir4runner and FJ Cruiser4700-FJ-R
    All Pro Offroad Walker Evans Kit2" Non-Adjustable Reservior4runner and FJ Cruiser4700-FJ-NR


    Example lift measurement: 3" lift front / 2.75" lift rear
    OME Mediums 884 front coil and trim packer, N140S front shock, 895 rear coil, N142 rear shock
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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Coil and Shock Technology - Sample Vehicle Application(s)

    Deaver 4runner and FJ Cruiser rear coil


    Donahoe Racing 4runner and FJ Cruiser rear coil


    Donahoe Racing 4runner and FJ Cruiser rear shock


    Donahoe Racing Tacoma rear shock


    OME 4runner


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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Coilover Technology
    This technology replaces only the front stock suspension. The look and feel is similar to the stock suspension except you will have the ability to adjust the coil height to tune the height. This technology is ideal of high speed application but a growing number of low speed users are utilizing this technology. The ride feel will vary according to how you tune your coilovers. Many of the manufacturers pretune the coilovers to be very plush and feel exactly like a stock vehicle but better over the harsh terrain.

    If you are considering adding additional weight up front (bumper/winch/lights etc), please make sure to adjust your coils for the added weight. This configuration is the ultimate setup for those that want to utilize every modern technology available. Highly recommended for high speed applications and even for slow speed application.

    Costs for this technology is expensive (approx $750-1250 depending on size)

    Note: XREAS equipped 4runner owners wanting to remove their XREAS system can safely remove the system will no effect. The system is safe to remove and reinstall at a later date with no ill effect.


    ManufacturerProduct
    All Pro Offroad 3" lift front coilover featuring Walker-Evans shocks and 650-lb All-Pro coils
    Donahoe Racing3.5" lift front coilover
    Sway A Way3" lift front coilover
    Downey Offroad3" lift front coilover
    Light Speed3.5" lift front coilover
    King Shocks3" lift front coilover
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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Coilover Technology - Sample Vehicle Application(s)

    Donahoe Racing


    LTD 4WD with Donahoe Racing Coilover, Deaver Coils and Bilstein 7100 Shocks


    SE 4WD with Donahoe Racing Coilover and Total Chaos Upper Control Arms


    Downey Offroad
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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Long Travel Coilover Technology
    Utilizes conventional coilover technology to another level. The vehicle is widened approximately 3-5" depending on the manufacturer application. This requires heavy modification which includes replacement of the Upper Control Arms, Lower Control Arms and custom front fenders. 4WD vehicles require replacement front axles to reflect the widened specification. Wheel travel is greatly increased with the widened stance giving greater vehicle stability with better suspension control for your high speed pleasures.

    Costs ranges anywhere from $2500~$5000 depending on manufacturer application.

    Note: XREAS equipped 4runner owners wanting to remove their XREAS system can safely remove the system will no effect. The system is safe to remove and reinstall at a later date with no ill effect.

    Manufacturers
    Total Chaos Fabrications
    Camburg
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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Long Travel Coilover Technology - Sample Vehicle Application(s)

    Total Chaos Long Travel


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    Re: Lift FAQ for the 4th gen 4runner / 2nd gen Tacoma / 1st Gen FJ Cruiser

    Of the 3 technologies available, spacers are the most popular due to their price points. Keep in mind that lifting your vehicle and changing tires can be a costly investment so do a lot of research prior to making your final decision. Once you get your lift, give it a few weeks for the components to settle in and retighten the bolts to ensure the suspension is intact and not going to fall off while you're on the road/trail. Also take the time to get an tire alignment for the front wheels only (no need to spend $ on the rears as no changes will occur from the lift). The look of all the various lifts available will be similar. Depending on the size of the lift, the look may change somewhat but for the most part they are similar. Be aware that adding larger tires will also increase your height so make sure to be selective in your tire decisions as well.

    Note: Highly recommended to extend the rear brakelines with longer stainless steel lines available at your local offroad shop.
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