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  1. #21

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    Steve,

    Thanks for the input. I don't plan on carrying one in the chamber but on having to cycle the slide (no matter what I get). I don't like the fact that the 1911 has a selectable safety but from my range experience the other day it would not figure into the way I wanted to use it, it would always be off, see no reason to engage it. I was wondering about that though, I read a few manuals and there was no recommended decocking procedure I found. I concede if I got the Kimber it wouldn't be a rational decision. That said it is still pretty high on the list.

    How do you like the XD40 Sub? The guy at Turners said it wouldn't be a fun gun to shoot with the size, weight and snap of the 40. He was trying to talk me into the 5" XD40. Can you shoot it fairly accurately with the short barrel and sight radius? Is the kick manageable being so light? I'm also confused on carrying an XD with a round in the chamber, it's OK to leave the striker in the cocked position for long periods of time? I really like the feel, features, and price of the whole XD line I just don't want something too close to a 1911 because I will have one someday. In my mind something like the XD40 Sub, a 1911, and Ruger or Histandard 22 would round things out nicely someday.

    Off to look at Sig's tonight and hopefully fire one. I like the decocker feature and the feel of the gun. The double stacks are just a little too wide to feel really comfortable, 239 feels great.

    Fuster,

    Thanks for that information I had been trying to read up on ballistics but didn't find anything with such a direct comparison. Hoping I'll be able to fire a 40 at the range tonight.

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  2. #22

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    No problem.

    I should say that while the 9mm appears to be comparatively effete, I know a man who accidentally shot himself with a 9mm. Though the trauma site was a through and through at the gastrocnemius, it nearly tore his calf off of his leg. 7 reconstructive surgeries later and he still walks with a limp. A tough lesson that even the seemingly weaker ballistic is devastating.
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  3. #23

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    Rob,

    If you come across a range w/ a sp2022 9mm let me know! I'd like to shoot that one in comparison to a p226/229.

    Have you also considered a revolver? It's not as fun to shoot in comparison to a xd/sig/glock/etc but it is darn easy to use and maintain with the least amount of moving parts.
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  4. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Times
    Rob,

    If you come across a range w/ a sp2022 9mm let me know! I'd like to shoot that one in comparison to a p226/229.

    Have you also considered a revolver? It's not as fun to shoot in comparison to a xd/sig/glock/etc but it is darn easy to use and maintain with the least amount of moving parts.
    Lance, I'd like to try a 2022 as well but I haven't found one yet. I'm hoping the try a 226 tonight. I've haven't found an sp2022 in stock at a local dealer, have you?

    Not looking for a revolver. Having to keep it unloaded much of the time has moved me towards a semi. Plus there's the fun factor. Hopefully some day.

    It wouldn't be so pressing an issue but the more I read about the incoming administration's views the more I more want/need to get this done now. Wish I had decided to do this over the summer, my timing is pretty bad.
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  5. #25

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    Let's not forget the venerable 10mm auto...




    It is the one at the bottom. Notice the cavitation at impact and overall peneration compared to even the hallowed .45acp. It is terrific round. I think one could avail himself of a nice polymer framed glock model 20 in 10mm auto for a modest 450.00. The mag holds 15 rnds. of course living in Ca. limits you to 10. No need to cover Glock's sterling reputation. Oly carries one and seems to really like it. If I ever finish buying all of the rare and expensive guns I want, I'll pick a glock 20 for myself...


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  6. #26

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    Rob I haven't found a local shop with 2022 but I'm searching. I found that CDNN has em for 469 but they don't ship to CA bastards!

    I'm emailing a guy in Bakersfield that has one but w/ the 15 rounders so I'm hoping he has some 10 round mags in exchange. A few others om gunbroker but none with the 10 round mags. I'm contacting each seller to see if they can swap em too.

    bah!
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  7. #27

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    I like my XDSC pretty well and it does the job. The kick doesn't bother me at all and even my wife, who weighs in at a mere 105 lbs, shoots it just fine. Leaving one in the chamber and the striker cocked is just fine for it.

    As with everything there is a downside. The downside of using a decocker is that your first shot is then double action which can be fairly hard to shoot accurately. At least that's what they say but I can shoot my wife's P2000 first shot double action just fine.

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  8. #28

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    Fuster, that 10mm is insane. Looks like a nuclear mushroom cloud in there. I think that's a little too much for me, girly wrists and all.

    Steve, Thanks for the feedback on the XDSC, it's still a possibility. Curious what type of grouping you can make, the pictures from your original thread on the gun don't seem to be working for me.

    Lance, I have a line on a local guy that I met at the range today that does catalog orders at discount prices. If you are interested I'll send you his info, he works out of HB and Burbank.

    So I shot a 9mm Sig 226 tonight, Very nice gun but it just doesn't fit me right. Fairly tight groupings (for me) but all lower right. pick up the XD9 and they are way more centered. range guy tries the gun and says its me. They pretty much told me I sucked too. XD feels better to me than the sig, hand fit wise, not crazy about the DA/SA trigger either. I assume the 2022 is going to be similar in grip size and fit to the 226 so I'm not sure it will work for me. I am going to hit up 2 local stores tomorrow I'll see what they have to try for fit.

    Shot a glock 23 in 40S&W, now I know what they mean by snappy. 40 seems like it will work for me, not sure if I like the 45 better or not.

    So as of now I have it down to something in an XD40 or maybe XD45 or the lower end Kimber, I think any of those would make a great choice with the XD getting the nod for practicality. Got to hurry January 20th is approaching quickly.
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    Rob, I'm game!
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  10. #30

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    The 2022's are nice, but a bit on the large side as far as frames go (I've owned a 2009 & 2340 in 9mm as well as a 2022 in 40S&W). The 229 is also a very fine weapon, and I found that the 229 SAS that I owned (in 40 S&W) was just too pretty to carry in fear of marring the finish. I have handled a couple P250's and they seem to be very well made. I like the fact that you can change out the firing system as well as make caliber changes very simply. However, I had to leave the SIG family this last time around. I broke down and sold the 229 SAS a couple weeks ago and bought a P2000 SK from CDNN and LOVE IT for carry purposes.

    It's a 357 SIG with an extra 40S&W barrel. It's the same size as my Bersa 380 (single stack 380 like a walther PPK), but it packs 10-rounds of terror compared to the 8 in the Bersa baby-9. With a USP Compact Magazine and X-Grip extension, the capacity becomes 13 - enough to hold off a small army if you have a couple spares on-hand.

    At any rate, I love SIGS, but that HK has become my favorite all-around handgun bar-none.

    The downside for you guys is that I don't think you can get the SK version in Kalifornistan due to it's subcompact size. That's a damn shame...
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