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  1. #11

    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    It's already been well established established that Obama is a US citizen. I was just asking Bob that cause I expect better out of him.

    Anyway, silly conservative conspiracy theories aside, and a few political blunders, I'm very happy with Obama's job so far, and thankfully so is most of the country. Finally, some real progress. I know you guys love your guns and all that and are at the opposite end of the political spectrum, but oh well.

  2. #12

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    Is Obama's mother a US citizen? If so, it doesn't matter where he was born.
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  3. #13

    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by calrockx
    It's already been well established established that Obama is a US citizen. I was just asking Bob that cause I expect better out of him.

    Anyway, silly conservative conspiracy theories aside, and a few political blunders, I'm very happy with Obama's job so far, and thankfully so is most of the country. Finally, some real progress. I know you guys love your guns and all that and are at the opposite end of the political spectrum, but oh well.
    Could you provide links showing that it is well established?

    As to the rest of your post, you and I see things differently. As to the "oh well", well, I prefer to live in a country where we can negotiate and compromise instead of having one person/political view decide how I should live my life. Obama has the exact same lack of respect for the constitution that Bush had. If you don't think that is the case, then I'm sorry to say you are wrong my friend.
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    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by calrockx
    It's already been well established established that Obama is a US citizen. I was just asking Bob that cause I expect better out of him.
    Where?? I didnt see him on national TV with his certificate holding in the air so far!

    As for Obama, it isnt just about guns-look at his legislation, his political appointments and cabinet. Its called socialism, where the govt runs all and thats his push.
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    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by calrockx
    It's already been well established established that Obama is a US citizen. I was just asking Bob that cause I expect better out of him.

    Anyway, silly conservative conspiracy theories aside, and a few political blunders, I'm very happy with Obama's job so far, and thankfully so is most of the country. Finally, some real progress. I know you guys love your guns and all that and are at the opposite end of the political spectrum, but oh well.
    chuck,

    i have not seen it either. i would think that as an avid news reader, i would have heard and/or seen it by now.

    as i understand it, there is still one pending lawsuit out there calling for the release of his birth certificate. could be two.

    bob

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    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    I was under the impression that Obama had dual-citizenship (Kenya and US). However, his reluctance to show his birth certificate really is odd, and in my opinion, implies he is hiding something. I too would like him to show the certificate.

    There's no way a republican would have gotten anywhere without showing proof of citizenship.

    Just my $.02.
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  7. #17

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    ah i read enough to be semi-convinced, and like others, the fact that he waited too long to produce it makes me remain a bit skeptical. that said, nothing will come of it.

  8. #18

    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    Even if Obama was not a citizen before his presidency, I don't think he would have much trouble coming up with proof once he became president. I mean, it's not like he's the most powerful man in the world or anything!!! If he didn't produce a birth certificate before the elections then there is no point in asking any longer.

    But, Anyways lets get back to my question, does anyone know if this is a legit story (about the investigation)?
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  9. #19

    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seanz0rz
    like the FBI under Bush wasn't investigating people protesting the Afghanistan and Iraq wars (when it was not popular to do so)?

    of course they are going to investigate, they see it as a threat to their power. it most certainly isnt right, but obama isnt the first to do this, nor will he be the last.
    Was Bush investigating war protesters specifically, or is that just speculation?

    Either way, if Bush investigated or not, it makes no difference, it still is unconstitutional. That's like when you were a kid and you got in trouble. You told your mom, "well my friends do it all the time". I don't know about you, but I was still getting in trouble, no matter how much my friends got away with.
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  10. #20

    Re: FBI Investigation of Veterans who oppose Obama?

    i havent heard anything, but i dont find it unbelievable. i suppose if i was the govt, id be investigating anyone who went against me to see if there was a valid threat there, or just a bunch of morons buying tea to highlight wasteful spending... (i agree with the tea party idea, except we are suppose to dump THEIR tea into a harbor, not buy our own bags and ship them to DC)

    i know someone investigated my family. after protesting the war, my entire family magically appeared on the aviation watch list. just one more reason i wont fly on a commercial airline... i cant think of a single other reason for being on that list. im middle class, white, not even a traffic ticket to my name, never been involved in any criminal activity of any kind that would ever warrant being on a watch list. and yet magically 6 months after i show up to a protest, im on the list. investigating is not illegal until they start censoring you, unlawful search and seizure, etc.

    i dont mind, i have nothing to hide what so ever. it is a huge invasion of privacy, and most likely unconstitutional and hugely unethical. but since when has our government paid any attention to either the constitution or ethics?

    my personal feeling is its probably true. dont believe anything that anyone tells you with out looking it up first, from as many sources as possible. then form your own opinion.
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