Blazeland Long Travel

[Crinale]

i spent a long time looking at his kit, and at his truck... the kit looks VERY strong... im pretty sure his extension is the strongest part of he control arms... and they are designed to use the t100 axles just like the TC kit. im still debating on this kit, or if i just want to SAS and be done with it...

[CJM]

I still say that overall the kit is cool as anything and the stuff he sells or has made into a kit is strong. But overall the stinkin other parts that may fail in the IFS arent worth it imho unless you beef them up too. IE TC idler arm, heavier tierods and draglink.

[Obi..]

I think everyone's said what needs to be said. That said, let me reiterate here and hopefully not have it be a bash or rant..

My concerns would be the heat cycling of the factory pieces, already (in my 4Runner's case 15 year's old, your's, 20+, correct?). Now, add in the stress from that coupled with the inherently stronger plate being put onto the arms to me just would make me really consider the overall value of the extra expenditure for the TC kit. TC's a proven product, with a long reputation of design quality and R&D ( Release and Destroy?) to go with that.

I'd want to see more of the product in action, preferably under someone else's vehicle before I'd give them more credit. Besides, the fact you can get a "DIY" kit scares me even more, as it then removes any liabilities as far as part and weld quality, know what I mean. Oval track's different than off road and daily driven conditions. They inspect and reweld pretty often as each race things break, are you considering that part?

Remember our conversation in Ashland about my doing fatigue analysis on chromoly plate, tube? Remember that stuff and buyer beware.

[troyboy162]

contact him and see if hes got videos or something. the yota post he says"The kit has run the Rubicon, Fordice, Pre Run the Baja 250 twice, and has been raced in some unsanctioned bs races here and there"

[Obi..]

contact him and see if hes got videos or something. the yota post he says"The kit has run the Rubicon, Fordice, Pre Run the Baja 250 twice, and has been raced in some unsanctioned bs races here and there"

Doubting Thomas says "All on the same vehicle, or a specific one for each event?" The fact that it's correctly spelled "Fordyce" makes me wonder if he's even ever seen the trailhead.

Hold it I just found more holes in the logic..was that cute little idler arm brace also a "temporary thing"! What about the dual shocks with the torsion bar and the shock mount just is bolted up?! How many times has that cycled and the upper arm swung into the frontmost shock?

If you're gonna build something like that, and have the whole package look that way, don't go advertising it. It's like trying to call a street hooker a "High Scale Male Escort". That or seriously have someone with marketing and product experience proof your posts and content first before you make yourself lose sales..

Best part is where he says he welded it up himself, there's a picture of someone welding on a table with everything on top of some pegboard..ever seen what a little bit of slag can do to a shop towel, let alone a nice piece of easily lit fiberboard..

re: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/toyota-...l#post51223870

Originally Posted by Robert m
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this balljoint setup just looks sketchy as hell. seems like any decent sized hit from landing from even a small a jump would just rip this thing apart from the added stress on the stamped upper arms.

It only seems sketchy untill you actually have it in your hands, view it from all angles and bolt it onto an arm. When I first built it it was a temporary thing I came up with to figure out geometry when I built my own LT tubular arms. Then I refined it and I started driving on it. Before I new it I was pre-running the baja 250 and building them for my friends. The thing works! Its been wheeled on for 3 years now and on multiple rigs in all sorts of terrain with out failure. What you see in the picture is the original one. I cut it out from my cadd file drawings with a sawzall and drill press then welded it up in my garage with my mig welder. The design has evolved since then and now everything is laser cut with interlocking tabs, its welded by a certified welder, and its professionally powdercoated. What you see in the picture is not showcaseing the UCA bracket it is just showing a dual shock option.

[Obi..]

*Reminder* Again, I am not deliberately intending to bash in here. I am giving my experienced opinion.
I would welcome the chance to both see and use this kit in person on someone's rig.

[troyboy162]

id rock it if they were for third gen. the tube arms cant be any stronger then those ones all plated up. the top ones not even load bearing but i wouldnt jump it, nor would i jump stock arms

[CJM]

^ thats the thing too, I wouldnt jump the thing.

I think for what it is, its pretty cost effective. But like I said the front suspension/steering system needs to be beefed up with as well as that will then be the weakest link.

idk really, im not bashing it-but I see the flaws clear as day imho. Perhaps someone will have to rock this kit a bit and see for ourselves. Then again we are putting in BJ spacers and having no issues with the stamped arms too, but thats billet aluminum and just an extension of the BJ. The added stresses from the UCA being longer like that idk about, I would prefer some kinda metal plating on the whole thing tbh to make sure it wouldnt fail. What about the mounts themselves, can they handle the abuse?

[Seanz0rz]

the mounts handle the abuse of the TC system, so i dont see why not.

[CJM]

the mounts handle the abuse of the TC system, so i dont see why not.

Excellent point.

What I dont like is the dual shock setup, whats up with that thing and why would he even offer it unless its hitting the shock? FWIW I wonder how much it would cost to get a set of TC arms to copy then return and have a set fabbed up in itself for cheaper? I mean its nothing more than very good welded metal and a BJ.