Where's CJM? He loves this stuff.
Where's CJM? He loves this stuff.
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Steve
1993 4runner, SAS, 3.0L, Auto Tranny
2007 4runner, stock. For now.
I just plan on getting my supply from the tactifool dudes with money who bought everything but didn't really know how to use it.
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Okay, this is more along the lines of what I was looking for. I love the idea of zombie survival, but this is most realistically a short term, or possibly cataclysmic collapse of government and social unrest. I want to be prepared for not having power, water, stores, or any outside help. Hopefully it never comes to that, but thats what I need to be prepared for.Originally Posted by randver
It makes sense that 1 MRE a day would be enough to keep one "healthy" (at least relatively) they have a ton of calories, right?
I need to lookup recommended water intake req's for people. I would like to plan on having "adequate" supplies for a month, and would like to think that they could be cut back and stretched to, maybe, twice that.
-Chris
2004 DoubleCab Tacoma PreRunner: 3.4 V6-Auto, DD/Tow Rig
1997 Lexus LX450: 4.5 I6-Auto, DD
1984 4Runner: 22R-5 speed, 14 inch bob, 5.29's, lincoln locked rear, lockright front, Armored and Caged by Mossyrocks Fabrication, total disregard for body damage.
1997 4Runner: GONE
1996 FZJ80 Land Cruiser: GONE
general consensus is 1 gallon per person per day in the warmer climates. i believe this includes "prep water" for cooking, etc.
i think for basic survival, a liter or quart per day would be the absolute minimum to sustain life.
personally, i plan for a Katrina style devastation of southern California by a major earthquake. we are prepared to survive for 1 month with no outside help. after the disaster in 2005, we realized we could never count on the government to provide us with any aid.
our goal for the next few years is to become somewhat self sustainable. grow our own food in the greenhouse (and sell it in good times for an extra bit of income), collect rain water in the spring for watering plants in the summer (or emergency water).
as for shelter, we have enough tents, tarps, scrap lumber, out buildings to provide shelter from the elements indefinitely. all of our camping gear doubles as emergency gear. all stoves and lanterns are coleman dual fuel, so we can use unleaded gasoline in them.
weaponry: shotguns and rifles provide protection from the most dangerous game (man) and could be used to hunt local wild life such as raccoons, coyotes, rabbits, squirrels, and birds. we also have materials to build basic traps to catch such animals.
the idea is to stay on our property. it is a defensible location, with plenty of resources. if we had to leave, the 4runner with the trailer would be packed up with every provision and we would move to the mountains where temperatures are cooler and more natural resources are present.
always remember to save enough bullets for your family and yourself. if the bomb lands close but not right on you, chances are you wont want to walk around with your skin hanging off and an eyeball exploded.
2005 Lexus LX470 - Stock for now...
1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V6 4x4 + a bunch of goodies. Lifted, Locked, Illuminated and Armored. Winner,"Best Offroad Truck" - 2010 Pismo Jamboree. It's been upside down and still drives me to work.
Food: The ability to grow food, if you can't have a garden, at least have seeds. If you do have garden, pick things that require little water and maintenance, potatoes are always good. On top of growing your own food, MRE's, dried pastas, dried beans, rice, etc. If you have a dehydrator, you can dehydrate frozen bags of mixed veggies, put them in a vacuum sealer, and keep them for a long, long time. I'd shoot for an absolute minimum of 1000-1200 calories per day. Keep in mind that while you can survive off less, in a SHTF situation, you NEED energy and strength if you have to fight. Store in air tight containers in the coldest spot you can store it as it will help keep the food longer. Also, keep away from sunlight whenever possible.
Water: 55 gallon plastic drums of water if you don't have access to running water, 2 gallons a day per person wouldn't be unreasonable for cooking, hydrating, sanitary, etc. Water purification tablets, or simpler, just get a bunch of liquid bleach, a few drops in water can sterilize it and allow for drinking. Rain water collection is also a must, simple tarps work wonders, easy to set up and move as well.
Medicines: If you have any conditions, prepare to deal with them without the help of medical professionals, this may mean a lot of reading... Aspirin, and lots of it. Also advil or aleve. Other things like rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide (though it expires), iodine, etc. I won't go into too much detail with this, but if you're really worried about it, then have everything you'd ever need to remove a bullet from someone, stop bleeding, close the wound, and prevent infection.
Weapons: AR-15 or AK-47 with 5k rounds minimum, 10 magazines, spare parts for full rebuild. A shotgun, 12ga, combo of #7 shot, 00 buck, and rifled slugs for ammunition. Pistol, your choice, but suggested that you get common calibers (.45, 9mm, .40 S&W) also have 10 magazines and about 1-2k worth of ammo. Crossbow/compound bow for hunting, in a true survival situation, you don't want to let everyone within a few miles know where you are or that you just shot food. Plus, you can always 'make' ammo for it.
I'll think about this some more when I get home and maybe add to it!
Gone but not forgotten: 2004 Tacoma/2006 Fourwheel Camper<br /><br />ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ<br /><br />"Tyrants mistrust the people, hence they deprive them of arms."<br />- Aristotle (384-322 B.C.)
it also depends on if your planing to dig in and stay put or if your planing to pick up and bug out. the list i posted was for a bug out scenario.
just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid.<br /><br />1999 4x4 SR5 4runner<br />http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=1 081.0
I found the following three articles especially useful when planning for the Zombie apocalypse. There are some good points in there.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683...uickly_p1.html
http://www.cracked.com/article/126_5...et-you-killed/
http://www.cracked.com/article/136_5...ie-apocalypse/
- Matt
2000 4Runner Sport / 4x4 / 5spd / E-locker / SS 1.2 / 265x75x16 Bighorns / ARB Prado / HD-SKO
We used to be a bug out kind of couple, but I now believe we are in a situation where we can definitely hold our own as a dig in group. We have a few friends in the area and plan a group thing.
-Chris
2004 DoubleCab Tacoma PreRunner: 3.4 V6-Auto, DD/Tow Rig
1997 Lexus LX450: 4.5 I6-Auto, DD
1984 4Runner: 22R-5 speed, 14 inch bob, 5.29's, lincoln locked rear, lockright front, Armored and Caged by Mossyrocks Fabrication, total disregard for body damage.
1997 4Runner: GONE
1996 FZJ80 Land Cruiser: GONE