i didnt find anything in search on the subject on these forums but found some links on google. First off I suck at spotting and thought maybe I should read about it. I ushualy cant help anyone unless I know where they want there tires. If they know where they want the tires then they really dont need too much spotting can get by with my lack of help basicly. I also never offer because people always blame the spotter for any mistakes they make. I dont really like any of the solutions in these links either, but they are a starting point

http://www.youtube.com/user/bb4wa#p/u/3/QWW-5UV5itU

http://www.4x4wire.com/trail/technique/spotting99/

the only thing was the yellow stick method sounded great but impractical. Steve ushualy needs to know the angle of the tires and i cant convey that very well.

Ive tried self spotting by dripping water on key spots in a line prior to driving it. that works well in a pinch.

anyone got anything that really works well for them? the other thing i thought about is even if you figure out a system that you likly couldnt use the same system for Steve at the hammers and also a noob on john bull.