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Kryptoroxx
05-18-2014, 09:02 AM
Some days the truck will run great and I've got plenty of power and everything seems well in tune and then some days it seems like it has a bad morning or something and runs fine....but slightly off. Time for more investigation.

I cleaned and re-oiled my K&N filter. There was a lot of talk about this previously on most of the other forums about FIPK tripping a CEL code. I have never had this although I am planning to take apart the intake manifold and throttle body for cleaning. I decided to give the Amsoil dry fillter a shot since I now live in such a dusty climate. I also have a FIPK intake that I bought when I was quite young and ill informed. This is a slightly more complex problem as I do not have the stock airbox otherwise I would just simply swap back to that and get the drop in with the deckplate. This is what I have come up with as a custom intake airbox (it's gonna be redneck as hell but whatever)


First some pictures of what it looks like now:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/841/1rs17.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nd1rs17j)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/834/6gb2u.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/n66gb2uj)

As everyone else has said the only thing that the FIPK does is take the baffling out of the intake. It's not protected from the hot engine air nor does it do much except make more noise....and take in a little more air. So here is what I am proposing besides the Amsoil to re-attain my stock box.

Amsoil Filter size:
Amsoil Number EaAU3050

K&N Number RU-3570

Product Style Round Tapered

Base OD 6"

Flange ID 3"

Flange Length 1.75"

Flange Type Center

Media Height 5"

Top OD 5"

Thankfully I found the thread where someone mentioned the adapter to go from the 3" intake on the FIPK to the 5" filter base. Amsoil never made a 5" base but they did make several 3" bases. I verified this fact and then began to look for a waterproof box that didn't cost 200 bucks (fleabay stock box price)

Here's what I found in the most unlikely section of Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AU67M5K/ref=s9_simh_gw_p200_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=1BS76QTT1QWPHRC4PE3T&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200482&pf_rd_i=507846

Dimensions are as follows:
Inside: 7"(Diameter) x 12.4"(H)
Outside: 10"(Diameter) x 13.5"(H)


It's an MTM Survivor Ammo can. I measured it out and it should just barely fit into the space under the hood. So now I need a place to put a pre-filter and rather than destroy the whole can I figure something like this would do the trick while allowing me to run a flex line to the stock inlet on the fender. I found a variety of silicone connector hoses here at www.sfxperformance.com (http://www.sfxperformance.com). Just not sure how I'm going to do a firm connection from the stock hole to the mtm ammo can. Any ideas would be helpful. I could always just cut a slightly smaller hole and jam the hose in there with silicone but if there's an idea that allows for disassembly in a more civilized fashion I am all ears.

Found some more slight issues thankfully before something more serious happened but my vacuum lines are starting to crack. I pulled one off and it hardly had any resistance at all. Did a little research and I wasn't the only one. Picked up some new vacuum lines for $34 with shipping from www.siliconeintakes.com (http://www.siliconeintakes.com). For the 3.4L everyone was suggesting the shop pack but that there was almost enough for two engines so I went with the engine dress up kit since the 2.7L has fewer vacuum lines. I will install and review this when it arrives.

Seanz0rz
05-18-2014, 10:30 AM
I don't know how much you are hell bent on keeping that setup, but my $0.02 says ditch it for the stock setup.

Kryptoroxx
05-18-2014, 11:52 AM
The other pic didn't come through but I found something to make an air box out of instead of buying just the box for 200. Then I would still have to shell out another 63 for the stock tube.

Total I will be out 40 bucks for my experiment if it doesn't work. If I'm wrong I'll eat the price and go stock again.

Kryptoroxx
05-21-2014, 05:49 PM
Well after I ordered I found the stock air box for 60 something but since I already have parts in hand this is what I'm up to. If it bombs....oh well. I am kind of having fun with this idea though and it should work fairly well. The operative word is should.

This is the MTM survival ammo can ($20)(why it's round I have no idea....but it is what I had in mind)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/834/cya6.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/n6cya6j)

The Amsoil filter along with the MAF adapter from Spectre Performance ($11)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/842/gfp2.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/negfp2j)

Kind of a mock up of what everything will look like stacked up inside. I am going to cut a hole in the heat shield that will fit the whole assembly through it. The MAF will be inside the box. I do have some 3/4" wire glands on hand and it looks like they might just do the trick.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/841/2g80.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nd2g80j)

Inside the hood. It's going to be on the tight side but it's better than a wide open filter.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/841/vqctu.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/ndvqctuj)

What it looks like so far before I had to watch my daughter. It fits in there really snug. Best part about plastic molds is they always mark center for you :cool:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/841/0bz7.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nd0bz7j)

A view from outside. I'm going to get some more done tonight when the wife gets back but I am not sure how much. The little one has teeth moving and hates naps in the first place.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/835/yaxr.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/n7yaxrj)

Kryptoroxx
05-21-2014, 10:09 PM
So maybe I'm a modaholic? I dunno but once I start I can't stop till it's done. Here's the rest of the pics I snapped while I was working everything. Fits like a glove and I know I don't have a load of dust coming through either. Best part is I think I could make a seal system as well as a vent in case I ever get froggy and build a snorkel.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/843/1qajc.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nf1qajcj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/845/nuwfy.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nhnuwfyj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/839/avj5.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nbavj5j)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/836/m422.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/n8m422j)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/838/t6r6.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nat6r6j)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/835/ngmz.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/n7ngmzj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/844/qynr.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/ngqynrj)

The wiring still needs to be more solid. I'm ordering a waterproof 5 pin connector so if in the future I have to take it out it's easier than it was this time. I drove it around the block and the engine seems to be getting enough air. No codes and I could feel the air flowing through the lid. I think I can call this a success? lol. The next time I do coolant work I am going to trim that hose so that it isn't interfering with the air intake. Still have to make that huge hole in the heat shield too.

04 Rocko Taco
05-21-2014, 11:01 PM
If it doesnt work out - or you just want to be safe - Here is a stock intake box for $20.
I am picking up some other parts, I would be glad to pick up and get it out to you.
Let me know if interested.
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201946

Kryptoroxx
05-22-2014, 07:12 AM
I will definitely keep it in mind but I think this is gonna work. Might take a couple more days to come up with a design to hold the filter just so. Everything inside the box is solid and firm. I think that heat shield will end up securing the box to the truck although now I would just consider it a support brace. I don't really think a heat shield does much.

Kryptoroxx
06-12-2014, 11:36 AM
Finally got my connectors in so that the wiring wont look like junk and fail. Went with weatherpack connectors so it should work out well. Plan on doing it this weekend at work. Just need my soldering gun and my crimpers.

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Seanz0rz
06-12-2014, 11:49 AM
You will need special crimpers for the weather pack connectors. You might get away with a pair of pliers and soldering them on. Remember the big tabs go around the cavity seal.

Kryptoroxx
06-12-2014, 06:35 PM
Good catch. Had to order crimpers. Another tool added to the horde but honestly I have never owned a good set of ratcheting crimpers. This particular set has a set of different teeth for all kinds of connectors. I just ordered the weatherpack set this time as the rest of them are another 30 bucks. I will get them when I am more flush for tools.

stamped and snail mailed

Seanz0rz
06-12-2014, 08:58 PM
I was hoping I had a pick of a WP connector, but here is an AMP connector that is similar. This is how NOT to crimp it:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5547/12079649656_e8c629889d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/jprmZE)

The tabs that are crimped into the insulation is suppose to capture the seal. This is from a somewhat respected manufacturer. They are actually using the wrong dies to crimp the terminals on.

Kryptoroxx
06-13-2014, 05:41 AM
Hey thanks for illustrating that. I order most of my stuff off of amazon since I live 45 min from the nearest walmart at 65mph lol. They were talking about this in the reviews and I understood for the most part but I wasn't 100%. I made sure I was getting the die meant for weatherpack connectors. Didn't realize how many crimp connectors there were. I've always had open barrel or Meta and that's it.

I will say they charge an arm and a leg for a good crimpers that accepts different dies. I have a set of S and G which are fairly decent for DIY use. The moving guys are gonna hate me when I have to move lol.

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Kryptoroxx
06-14-2014, 09:00 PM
So I learned several things today.

1. I should stop being so cheap now and then by getting the right tool for the right job. I should have gotten a ratcheting crimper a long long time ago.

2. Weatherpack connectors use a brains over brawn strategy. Very frustrating and harder than hell to solder too (I'm not great at soldering)

3. Next time get real Weatherpacks by Delphi and not (insert Chinese company name here). Does it work.....yes. Does it work well and would I recommend the connectors I have.....nope

4. Wrenching on your truck at work attracts everyone over to your truck just to distract you and find out what exactly it is you're doing.

5. Youth's ignorance knows no bounds. One of the youngest guys at work said that he wondered whose jeep had been sitting outside....

Ratcheting crimpers are awesome
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/850/dzrd.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nmdzrdj)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/840/ffmf.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/ncffmfj)

Kryptoroxx
03-14-2015, 09:48 PM
So as a continuation of this thread after I got the snorkel I had to seal up the box instead of leaving it open. It took almost a full day but I have it sealed and it is solid as well. I shouldn't have any problems with it off road at all.

This was my first attempt. It didn't quite line up how I liked or at all to be honest.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/14/4c8bb6af62f3da6047fa263580060fbe.jpg

Had to hit up autozone for some of their spectre 400hp parts lol. They did have 3" tube in a 60 deg angle so it actually ended up working out well. I modified the original sealing lid so it would work with bolts and nuts and....
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/14/9123f88851fc2bf25ec69d94f485cb20.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/14/34c09098eb45e8843f9b4b73246a86d9.jpg

I took it for a spin and I don't feel any lag or lack of power at all. The stock box would have been easier but it also doesn't seal like this one does.

On the other hand it doesn't take 30 minutes to get to the filter either lol.