3rd gen love, 5th gen junk?

[CJM]

I think most of GM's pushrod engines are pretty good. My dad's '94 Buick Regal with the 3.8 V6 has 300k on it, and it still runs pretty good. The overhead cam engines all seem to be junk though.

Brother had same car, got it with 40k on it and it literally fell apart. He did have the 3.1L engine and blew 3 head gaskets (2nd time we went with a new head and 3rd time we junked it). Junked it at 160k, all sorts of things kept failing. The best was the passlock key system where you can start the car b/c it doesnt recognize the chip. Dad had a 97 and that fell apart too, aunt had a 98, same deal.

Im not a fan of GM cars, IDK how they build their trucks but somehow they hold up and drive nicer than the fords and dodges. We have an entire fleet of chevy/GMC 3/4 ton vans and trucks at work and no real issues.

[YotaFun]

I wish Toyota would just put the 4.5L twin turbo diesel from the 200 series LC in the Tundra.

Cummins in a Toyota sounds kinda funny, imho.

I would love to see a Toyota Diesel Engine option before they partner with another company to put an engine in.
Especially since this is a newer designed engine by Cummins and iirc the first "V" engine instead of an inline engine.
It will be interesting to see how it will do, hopefully it won't be a flop like the ford 6.0 and 6.4...


And as far as GM is concerned I like a lot of the olds line.
My stepdad grew up with the muscle car era of the Olds Cutlass, while he never had a 442 (which I would like to restore one for him as a retirement present) they were awesome.
My experience with olds was the 95 Cutlass Supreme we had. It had the 3.1l V6. Which wasn't the greatest but it wasn't completely horrible.
It bent a push rod at around 121k and blew the head gasket at 151k, other then that the car ran really strong, interior wise all it needed was a driver window switch and that was it. I miss that car lol

[DHC6twinotter]

CJM, the "x engines" were all pretty bad, and those are the main exceptions to my thought that the GM pushrod engines are pretty good. My sister had a Oldsmobile with a 3.1, and she had a lot of trouble with it. The 2.8 in the S-10, etc, were notoriously bad as well. The 3.4s had common intake manifold gasket issues as well. We sold a lot of those gaskets when I worked at a Chevy dealership. Those gaskets, and the tail light circuit boards for the Silverados were what we sold the most of.

I wouldn't buy a new GM car (or Chrysler) either, but the new GMC trucks are pretty sweet.

Sorry, I'm going off topic here...

[CJM]

Yea the old pushrod 350 and 4.3L are actually dang good engines. At work we have all 2500 chevys with the 6.0L and besides oil consumption on the 11, 12 and 13 we have (which is a known problem) nothing really has busted. the old pos 03 and 06 vans wont die lol. I still like the 350 better. Been looking for a clean 03-07 silverado mostly b/c I need a larger truck and the v8, but if I could find a clean older tundra Id be happy.

Is it worth holding out for the 05-06 tundras with the 5 speed and higher powered engine? I could live with the 4 speed but the extra 40+ hp is sweet.

[Seanz0rz]

I saw a limited drive by today. I am not a fan of the chrome bar across the front. Looks weird.

[DHC6twinotter]

I must be the only one that likes the Limited models…lol. Actually, what I think would look pretty good is to use the limited bumper on a trail edition. Paint the chrome part black and trim up the bottom of the bumper a bit (limited bumper is much lower than SR5 and TE).

Is it worth holding out for the 05-06 tundras with the 5 speed and higher powered engine? I could live with the 4 speed but the extra 40+ hp is sweet.

I'd go with the '05 or '06.

[Seanz0rz]

I would agree on the blacked out chrome on the limited bumper.

I don't think I would worry all that much about the front bumper though, I would rip it off and put on something made of steel.

05 or 06 Tundras are nice! I specifically like the double cab with the drop down rear window.

[CJM]

05 or 06 Tundras are nice! I specifically like the double cab with the drop down rear window.

I liked the dbl cabs, but heard some bad stories about problems with the back window. Plus I dont need 4 doors-I dont want to take people with me lol. Although I do wish the bed height of the x-cab was the same as the dbl cab.

[YotaFun]

I saw a limited drive by today. I am not a fan of the chrome bar across the front. Looks weird.

I am with you on this Sean, I can not stand that chrome bar!

[paddlenbike]

It's funny, I hated the front end on the 2010 when it came out, but in comparison to the horrendous 2014 front end, the 2010 is starting to look okay, haha.