The future of the 4Runner (5th Gen)

[Good Times]

I would think so since the 4runner would share the prado series.

[DHC6twinotter]

Anybody have any engine/tranny guesses for the 5th gens?

I'm guessing the new 4.6 V8 with the A760 6spd auto as an option, with the current 4.0 V6 and A750 5spd auto as standard. Maybe an available 6spd manual tranny with the V6 as well.

[Crinale]

Anybody have any engine/tranny guesses for the 5th gens?

I'm guessing the new 4.6 V8 with the A760 6spd auto as an option, with the current 4.0 V6 and A750 5spd auto as standard. Maybe an available 6spd manual tranny with the V6 as well.

id guess your probably correct on ur assumption

[KZN185W]

OT: on what vehicle is the 4.6 V8 used on? I presume this is not the 4.7L 2UZ-FE..

[Crinale]

A quick look on Edmunds tells me the 4.6 is the v8 version used in the top model Lexus GS and LS models... all the trucks still use the 2uz (4.7), and this will probably continue in the 5th gen 4runner... engine options will probably be the 4.0 v6, or the 4.7 v8

I wonder if the 4.6 is related to any of the other v8s toyota has... the 4.3 in the sc430, the 1uz/2uz family, or the 5.7...

[DHC6twinotter]

OT: on what vehicle is the 4.6 V8 used on? I presume this is not the 4.7L 2UZ-FE..

A quick look on Edmunds tells me the 4.6 is the v8 version used in the top model Lexus GS and LS models... all the trucks still use the 2uz (4.7), and this will probably continue in the 5th gen 4runner... engine options will probably be the 4.0 v6, or the 4.7 v8

I wonder if the 4.6 is related to any of the other v8s toyota has... the 4.3 in the sc430, the 1uz/2uz family, or the 5.7...

Yep, both you guys are right. The current 4.6L 1UR motors are used in the GS and LS. The GS uses the 1UR-FE, and the LS uses the 1UR-FSE (direct injection and dual throttle bodies). While both engines are derivatives of the 1UR, they have pretty different power outputs. Toyota will be introducing a 4.6 backed by the A760 6spd auto in the 2010 Tundras and probably also the Sequoias. While I haven't seen anything that says it is another derivative of the 1UR, I think it's a pretty safe bet. The 5.7L engine in the Tundra is the 3UR-FE.

More info: http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.ph...7.msg65820#new

This is all speculation, and I think the GR series of motors are still fairly young, but it wouldn't surprise me if Toyota ditches or improves the 1GR 4.0 motor during the 5th gen mid-life refresh around 2015 or so. If the 4.0 lasts that long, it would have been in US vehicles for 10 years, which is longer than the 3.0, 3.4, or just about any other Toyota V6 motor that I can think of. For all I know, Toyota may introduce a new V6 when the 5th gens come out, but I think we would have heard about it by now.

Just speculation...for all I know, I could be completely off. Maybe we'll see the current motors transfered over.

Anyways, just my $.002.

[RunnerUp]

so if the 4runner is getting refreshed in '10 shouldnt we start seeing some pretty good spy shots this month or next? considering they usually drop around september?

[Crinale]

we should... but it may not be targeted by many spy photographers... cuz lets face it, its another mall crawler to most people...

[Good Times]

Here's the latest info on the 2010 4runners: (Due out Aug 2009)

* Enhanced Rugged Sporty exterior styling - Not sure what this means but I'm guessing it'll "look" offroad capable? (who knows)
* Overall Height is 1.2" taller
* Overall Width is 0.6" wider
* Overall Length is 1.6" longer
* Ground clearance is 0.6" higher
* New 4.0L V6 Engine with Dual VVTi (268HP, 273lbs-ft)
* New 2.7L L4 Engine (161, 184)
* Standard Tow Hitch (oddly I thought this was already a standard on the 4th gens)
* Improved interior comfort with higher h-point and better headroom, improved IP and easier to use HVAC controls with available dual zone climate control (about time cuz the 4th gen HVAC buttons are retarded...)
* 40:20:40 Split folding 2nd row seat with recline (eh I'm not diggin this at all)
* available 50:50 split fold flat 3rd row seat (sounds like a minivan!)
* New Off-Road options: Crawl Control (huh what's this? I'm guessing it's like the current DAC), Multi-terrain Assist (again huh?), KDSS (Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System - this was found in the GX and is complicated), Active Traction Control (basically means no lockers)
* Available Smart Key System
* Available Auto Dimming Mirror w/ Rear Camera Backup Display
* Available 20" Blinger Wheels
* Available USB port with head unit iPod control & Satellite ready radio
* Available Safety Connect including Automatic Crash Notification, Stolen Vehicle Tracking, SOS Button, and Roadside Assistance (First Year Subscription included)
* Available Sliding Rear Cargo Deck that support 440lbs.
* Rear Gate Speakers and a sound optimization mode for tailgate listening (interesting... does this mean the rear window doesn't slide down anymore?)
* Star Safety System including 8 airbags (wow welp in a rollover you'll be safe!)

A few notable concerns.
The 5th gen will be larger but won't have the v8 option. I wonder if the v8 option will be only available for the Lexus GX model? (If so that sux donkey balls. I'm glad I have my v8!) At any rate the 4cyl option really does make it sound lame considering how much it'll weight (based on the increase in size). No info on the tranny configuration so I'm guessing it'll utilize the same 6 speed auto found in the FJ and Tacoma. Solid rear axle will remain since its a shared platform with the Tacoma / FJ and GX. Expect the Tacoma to be revised in 2012 and the FJ to follow suit right after (if they decide to continue building it).

Now to try and get my hands on one and really break it!

2010 FJ Cruiser - Minimal changes - new color (Army Green replaces Voodoo Blue), revised v6 and steering radius improved by 1.1ft. No info on the Tacoma.

[YotaFun]

if the rear window doesn't roll down, its not a 4Runner anymore!
Sounds interesting, time to dig up some spy photos